• Steve King: Gays Shouldn't "Flaunt It" If They Don't Want To Suffer From Discrimination
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[QUOTE=thisispain;21955170]what?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Reaver1991;21955516]Explain this to me slowly, please.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Triumph Forks;21955709]He doesn't hate them because they're gay; he hates them because they're faggots[/QUOTE] Not in the slightest. The thing you guys don't seem to get, is that i'm talking about flamers. Not all gays are flamers. But all flamers are gay. Flamers are the ones that make their life and pesonality and dress style revolve around the fact that they're gay. Y'know, the stereotype. I don't like flamers because i don't like the various traits they all carry, and i don't like the fact that they openly promote a stereotype that is commonly thought all gays carry. As a result, many straight people think all gay people are flaming homos. As a result of this, alot people think that homosexuality comes with a personality too, when really all it is is a sexuality. I said "Gays like that" Meaning gays that fall under the stereotype. Not all gays. I [b]Do not hate gays, i hate some gays who fall under the stereotype. Not because they're gay, but because of how they act and dress, normal non stereotypical homosexuals are fine[/b] Hate is a strong word actually. I dislike them alot. It's not like i think they should all die or have any less rights or some shit. I just don't like them as people. Just to go over it one more time: [img]http://www.mikealvear.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/can-you-be-too-gay-300x300.jpg[/img] I don't like. shit example, too far fetched and contrived example, but it's the best i could find. Sorry. [img]http://a.abcnews.com/images/2020/abc_guys_bench_080424_mn.jpg[/img] [img]http://z.about.com/d/gayteens/1/0/g/-/-/-/GayTeenCouple.jpg[/img] Perfectly fine. Even the second picture. Theres nothing wrong with caring for your looks or being outgoing with them. You can be too outgoing with them though.
[QUOTE=TH89;21911496]Yeah dude gays need to understand that they are creepy and gross and need to hide the fact that they are gay from everyone Only then will we have true equality[/QUOTE] I tend to agree with the article. It's not that gays are "icky", it's that people acting like idiots are annoying. I can wear bright-ass clothes and talk with a voluntary slur or some other stereotypical behavior, and regardless of my actual sexuality I will probably be discriminated against for acting like an utter retard.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21953156]I know it isn't their fault, but if you would be discriminated for thinking certain things, don't you think you'd want to be quiet about it? Gays should be able to do whatever they want, but unfortunately that just isn't how things are yet, and they should act accordingly, and if they don't then...unfortunately discrimination is surely possible.[/QUOTE] if gays all live in the closet, then society will never be accepting of the because society won't know they exist. Discrimination will not go away on it's own, it has to be actively fought. [editline]11:35AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Keeshond v2;21957300] I said "Gays like that" Meaning gays that fall under the stereotype. Not all gays. I [B]Do not hate gays, i hate some gays who fall under the stereotype. Not because they're gay, but because of how they act and dress[/B][/QUOTE] why? they're not hurting you. As long as they don't hurt other people or infringe on other people's rights, they aren't doing anything wrong
[QUOTE=Keeshond v2;21957300]Not in the slightest. The thing you guys don't seem to get, is that i'm talking about flamers. Not all gays are flamers. But all flamers are gay. Flamers are the ones that make their life and pesonality and dress style revolve around the fact that they're gay. Y'know, the stereotype. I don't like flamers because i don't like the various traits they all carry, and i don't like the fact that they openly promote a stereotype that is commonly thought all gays carry. As a result, many straight people think all gay people are flaming homos. [/QUOTE] That's kinda what I meant by faggots :v:
[QUOTE=Keeshond v2;21957300] I don't like. shit example, too far fetched and contrived example, but it's the best i could find. Sorry.[/QUOTE] exactly, it's all in your imagination glad we got that sorted out
No, he is not right, gays should fight for their right, and shouldn't stop until people will totally stop discriminating them. And why the hell would they stop fighting for their rights now, when they have already went this far?
ew icky thats gross *hand thing* Fuck, I hate over-projected gays.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21955525]He doesn't not like gays because they're gay He doesn't like them because they're forcing their gayness on him (???) [editline]10:48PM[/editline] Being rude is never alright, it will never get your point across, and it will only make your side look bad and immature. [editline]10:49PM[/editline] I'm sorry that I don't agree with your "perfect" thoughts, I'm sorry that I think that if you must conceal who you are to be safe then you should. I'm not trying to be as rude as you say I am, I'm really not, I'm bad at wording my thoughts I guess. I support gays, and I'm all for their rights, but they should do whatever they need to survive. If you're going to try and be rude to me again, then you need to grow the fuck up, and leave people to their opinions. I never meant to demean gays, end of story.[/QUOTE] The problem is, you're not getting it. You think it's fine that other people discriminate and hate gays just for being gay, you're not going to understand. You're a fucking bigot.
[QUOTE=staticman;21911407]Yeah! He deserved to have his skull smashed in for wearing jeans, a t-shirt, and a jacket, and acting completely normal! :downs: Then why is it okay to flaunt your heterosexuality? IE: talking about what chick you banged last night or w/e.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.facepunch.com/image.php?u=63029&dateline=1273805220[/img] just a troll guys, move along.
[QUOTE=Dr. Freeman;21968583][img]http://www.facepunch.com/image.php?u=63029&dateline=1273805220[/img] just a troll guys, move along.[/QUOTE] naw he's just a hardcore furfag but close enough
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21968657]naw he's just a hardcore furfag but close enough[/QUOTE] This.
[QUOTE=Keeshond v2;21957300] Just to go over it one more time: [img_thumb]http://www.mikealvear.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/can-you-be-too-gay-300x300.jpg[/img_thumb] I don't like. shit example, too far fetched and contrived example, but it's the best i could find. Sorry.[/QUOTE] And why would that bother you so much? If he's grabbing at your dick or something, yeah. He's annoying. But if he's just walking down the street dressed like that he's not doing anything wrong. If someone wants to look that ridiculous they can.
[QUOTE=staticman;21953181][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6StAtOaVn2Q[/media] Maybe because he IS...[/QUOTE] Opinions =/= facts :jerkbag:
[QUOTE=Dr. Freeman;21968664]This.[/QUOTE] he's a lame furry, but he's right. "If they don't want to be discriminated against, they should hide who they are" is an idiotic way of thinking. It shows a complete lack of knowledge about any historical precedents for social change. Virtually every major shift of the social values in the united states' history was brought about by the oppressed standing up for their rights and being as vocal as possible, not by hiding it. [editline]03:36PM[/editline] jesus dude learn some damn history
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;21969262]he's a lame furry, but he's right. "If they don't want to be discriminated against, they should hide who they are" is an idiotic way of thinking. It shows a complete lack of knowledge about any historical precedents for social change. Virtually every major shift of the social values in the united states' history was brought about by the oppressed standing up for their rights and being as vocal as possible, not by hiding it. [editline]03:36PM[/editline] jesus dude learn some damn history[/QUOTE] Furries don't count because they turn a fetish into an over-dramatic lifestyle and act like massive attention whores about it. Yes I agree with your post, but I hate these grown men running around like this [img]http://www.mikealvear.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/can-you-be-too-gay-300x300.jpg[/img] limited to the flaming ones, it's pathetic, keep it to yourselves. I don't care for tiny jokes, protest if you must, THATS how you get rights, hell, dress a little different, but don't become this gigantic douche-bag about it.
[QUOTE=Dr. Freeman;21969841]Furries don't count because they turn a fetish into an over-dramatic lifestyle and act like massive attention whores about it. Yes I agree with your post, but I hate these grown men running around like this [img]http://www.mikealvear.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/can-you-be-too-gay-300x300.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] way to miss the point of bruno
[QUOTE=Dr. Freeman;21969841]Furries don't count because they turn a fetish into an over-dramatic lifestyle and act like massive attention whores about it. Yes I agree with your post, but I hate these grown men running around like this limited to the flaming ones, it's pathetic, keep it to yourselves. I don't care for tiny jokes, protest if you must, THATS how you get rights, hell, dress a little different, but don't become this gigantic douche-bag about it.[/QUOTE] they're not breaking into your house and sticking their dick down your throat. They're not hurting you in any way. and, regardless, they only represent a tiny minority of the gay population. being open about your sexuality doesn't mean that you have to act flamboyant.
[QUOTE=Brian Williams;21955741][img]http://www.facepunch.com/image.php?u=63029&dateline=1273805220[/img][/QUOTE] This is the best post ever.
I agree with Steve King. The sooner we all look the exact same the better. I look forward to the day that everyone is bound by law to wear the same clothes, have the same haircut and talk the same way. No more of that stupid diversity.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;21971659]I agree with Steve King. The sooner we all look the exact same the better. I look forward to the day that everyone is bound by law to wear the same clothes, have the same haircut and talk the same way. No more of that stupid diversity.[/QUOTE] It'll be like Equilibrium all over again.
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;21964280] why? they're not hurting you. As long as they don't hurt other people or infringe on other people's rights, they aren't doing anything wrong[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Zeke129;21968742]And why would that bother you so much? If he's grabbing at your dick or something, yeah. He's annoying. But if he's just walking down the street dressed like that he's not doing anything wrong. If someone wants to look that ridiculous they can.[/QUOTE] Actually, they are. Being gay, when i came out of the closet, people assumed i was like that. When people i've only just met find out i'm gay, they still do. By breeding that stereotype, they're hurting the rest of the gay community by stereotyping all of us. That and, i just dislike them as people in the same way that alot of people dislike emos. [QUOTE=thisispain;21968055]exactly, it's all in your imagination glad we got that sorted out[/QUOTE] They exist very much, and outside of hollywood studios too. Ever been to your citys gay district, if it has one? [editline]01:29AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;21971240]and, regardless, they only represent a tiny minority of the gay population. being open about your sexuality doesn't mean that you have to act flamboyant.[/QUOTE] Also, they may represent a tiny minority but they stand out so much that it makes a big impact.
[QUOTE=Keeshond v2;21973824]Actually, they are. Being gay, when i came out of the closet, people assumed i was like that. When people i've only just met find out i'm gay, they still do. By breeding that stereotype, they're hurting the rest of the gay community by stereotyping all of us.[/quote] Didn't they stop assuming that you were like that when they saw that you weren't? The people you associate with are obviously retards. [QUOTE=Keeshond v2;21973824]That and, i just dislike them as people in the same way that alot of people dislike emos.[/quote] People dislike emos for the same reason that people dislike furries - they see other people doing it and they think they should as well. It's quite different from homophobia, which often stems from religious and other forms of indoctrination beginning at childhood.
I haven't seen anyone comparable to Bruno outside of sitcoms
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21973934]Didn't they stop assuming that you were like that when they saw that you weren't? The people you associate with are obviously retards. People dislike emos for the same reason that people dislike furries - they see other people doing it and they think they should as well. It's quite different from homophobia, which often stems from religious and other forms of indoctrination beginning at childhood.[/QUOTE] No. They assumed that being gay meant being like that; and that coming out of the closet meant i was going to start acting differently. I don't associate with them anymore. Also, stop linking my dislike of the stereotype to homophobia please. I don't hate gays. I dislike a small group of gays because of who they are. Not because of their sexuality. Hating the stereotype =/= hating gays and being homophobic
[QUOTE=Keeshond v2;21974054] Also, stop linking my dislike of the stereotype to homophobia please. I don't hate gays. I dislike a small group of gays because of who they are. Not because of their sexuality. Hating the stereotype =/= hating gays and being homophobic[/QUOTE] I never called [i]you[/i] a homophobe specifically.
[QUOTE=staticman;21911349] Hey, Mr. King, [B]I've looked at your test, I'm afraid you have Sickbigotedbastardism... It's a painfull disease, it's fatal, and there's no cure. I'm afraid the only option is for you to kill yourself.[/B][/QUOTE] You damned furries present your fetish in any place you find, Rather it be fit or not. And you get shoved around for the retards you are. I don't see how homosexuals going around presenting themselves in situations they know are unfit does not encourage discrimination and hate, I feel they're forcing it down our throats when they walk up and say "Hello my name is Adam, This is my boyfriend carl and we like to wear short-shorts and suck eachother's cock when we go home at night" .
Being gay is a okay. Being flamboyant, whether gay or not is really annoying.
The only thing I can't stand about gays is if they talk in that 13 year old schoolgirl accent.
[QUOTE=Da Jester;21974751]You damned furries present your fetish in any place you find, Rather it be fit or not. And you get shoved around for the retards you are. I don't see how homosexuals going around presenting themselves in situations they know are unfit does not encourage discrimination and hate, I feel they're forcing it down our throats when they walk up and say "Hello my name is Adam, This is my boyfriend carl and we like to wear short-shorts and suck eachother's cock when we go home at night" .[/QUOTE] That's funny because the same thing applies Not all furries flaunt it, not all gays flaunt it.
[QUOTE=Keeshond v2;21973824]Actually, they are. Being gay, when i came out of the closet, people assumed i was like that. When people i've only just met find out i'm gay, they still do. By breeding that stereotype, they're hurting the rest of the gay community by stereotyping all of us.[/QUOTE] so they have a responsibility to behave a certain way so as to not encourage dumbasses to discriminate against people?
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