• Steve King: Gays Shouldn't "Flaunt It" If They Don't Want To Suffer From Discrimination
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[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;21913046]Fuck that. Nobody should cater to a bunch of stuck up inbred fucktard hicks who can't jack off to their bibles unless there are none of them gays around.[/quote] You're not catering to them by staying low, you're avoiding them until they die off. [quote]Staying low is for pussies and losers. I say if you're being treated unfairly, you shove your shit down everyones fucking throat until you get what you deserve, and if someone complains, fuck them.[/quote] That would just influence the opposite of what you want. [quote]People deserve rights, and they should fight for those rights in every way possible.[/QUOTE] Starting fights in the streets doesn't help your cause, it hurts it. Fight, only when it matters, if else, avoid fighting.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21914289]Meh, there are those kinds of people[/QUOTE] There are also Italians who have mustaches and are greasy and make pizza with big froofy hats while singing.
How about we just keep sex lives private? [editline]asdf[/editline] Everyone's sex life.
[QUOTE=Riutet;21914464]You're not catering to them by staying low, you're avoiding them until they die off. That would just influence the opposite of what you want. Starting fights in the streets doesn't help your cause, it hurts it. Fight, only when it matters, if else, avoid fighting.[/QUOTE] Oh yes, because they haven't died in the last 2000 years, but I'm sure they'll just up and keel over if gay people stop telling people they're gay. Because being open about your sexuality is equal to assaulting people. [editline]03:48AM[/editline] [QUOTE=x-quake;21914684]How about we just keep sex lives private? [editline]asdf[/editline] Everyone's sex life.[/QUOTE] While we're at it lets surf to the moon on our purple space worms.
[QUOTE]Keeping sex private is a huge concern when homosexuality is involved, but as soon as heterosexuality is in the picture everyone spouts their latest escapades with their lover.[/QUOTE] Thats just silly generalization.
[QUOTE=liltourette;21914807]Thats just silly generalization.[/QUOTE] It's also completely true. Popular culture is absolutely filled with sexual innuendo and references, this idea that gays are the flamboyant ones is ridiculous.
[QUOTE=TH89;21911506]I also recommend face-whitening procedures for minorities[/QUOTE] Minorities should stop flaunting their nationality by being brown.
[QUOTE=staticman;21911407]Yeah! He deserved to have his skull smashed in for wearing jeans, a t-shirt, and a jacket, and acting completely normal! :downs: Then why is it okay to flaunt your heterosexuality? IE: talking about what chick you banged last night or w/e.[/QUOTE] I'm Bi-sexual and flaunting Homos AND flaunting Heteros are the most annoying shit I ever seen. The difference is that the flaunting flaming Homo is typically protected and defended as a minority. You want fucking equality? Act normal, no one knows I'm Bi and even my best friends don't think I'm Bi, it isn't hard to act normal and to not act like you have to tell everyone you like dicks by some stupid flaunting attention whoring fashion. What do you think gay pride parades are? A bunch of naked gay guys going around like freaks, this fucking freaks people out and I can't blame them, [B]THIS IS THE IMAGE YOUR PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTING, [/B] [IMG]http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Science/Images/gay-pride-parade-toronto.jpg[/IMG] That doesn't look remotely normal to me in any way, and it's not like this is just one gay pride rally or one group of people, there is crazy gays at gay pride parades all the time. The problem with gays isn't gays, it's that the gay minority is that of weird flaming flaunting mofos who are loud as fuck and thus represent homosexuals. I am Bi-Sexual, I am in a gay relationship, I also like women. So I know what I am talking about, I am not bias because I can't be bias because I am both a Homo and a Hetero. There is annoying Heterosexuals but I've never seen any Heteros who flaunted as loudly as Homos have. You want respect? Act like a normal person in society and no one will care, Gays aren't discriminated for liking men, but because people think of that flaming minority when you say gay. "Then why is it okay to flaunt your heterosexuality? IE: talking about what chick you banged last night or w/e." That also isn't flaunting, that's trying to impress your peers.
^That sounded about right
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21914984]I'm Bi-sexual and flaunting Homos AND flaunting Heteros are the most annoying shit I ever seen. The difference is that the flaunting flaming Homo is typically protected and defended as a minority. You want fucking equality? Act normal, no one knows I'm Bi and even my best friends don't think I'm Bi, it isn't hard to act normal and to not act like you have to tell everyone you like dicks by some stupid flaunting attention whoring fashion. What do you think gay pride parades are? A bunch of naked gay guys going around like freaks, this fucking freaks people out and I can't blame them, [B]THIS IS THE IMAGE YOUR PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTING, [/B] [IMG]http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Science/Images/gay-pride-parade-toronto.jpg[/IMG] That doesn't look remotely normal to me in any way, and it's not like this is just one gay pride rally or one group of people, there is crazy gays at gay pride parades all the time. The problem with gays isn't gays, it's that the gay minority is that of weird flaming flaunting mofos who are loud as fuck and thus represent homosexuals. I am Bi-Sexual, I am in a gay relationship, I also like women. So I know what I am talking about, I am not bias because I can't be bias because I am both a Homo and a Hetero. There is annoying Heterosexuals but I've never seen any Heteros who flaunted as loudly as Homos have. You want respect? Act like a normal person in society and no one will care, [B]Gays aren't discriminated for liking men[/B], but because people think of that flaming minority when you say gay. "Then why is it okay to flaunt your heterosexuality? IE: talking about what chick you banged last night or w/e." That also isn't flaunting, that's trying to impress your peers.[/QUOTE] Oh yes they fucking are.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;21914883]It's also [B]completely true[/B]. Popular culture is absolutely filled with sexual innuendo and references, this idea that gays are the flamboyant ones is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] No, it's not. The truth is that there are idiots among both gays and heteros. doommarine23 pretty much summed it up.
I love how one minute, the facepunch community supports gays. Now I see remarks portraying the assumption that all gays flaunt their stuff. Quite frankly, I don't "flaunt my stuff", nor do I ask for discrimination. But yet, I deal with it on a daily basis. Heterosexuals do flaunt their stuff, they just aren't hassled and discriminated about it. Straight sexual remarks all the time, sex in movies, but flaunting as in how a stereotypical gay flaunts is different. Because the heterosexual nature is abnormal to the homosexual, so when a homosexual displays or "flaunts" (mind you, not all of them do), it is considered absurd to the norm. This Steve King, is making a remark from a heterosexual point of view. Quite frankly, it's biased I guess you could say, because if you went on the other side of the fence, you would hear homosexuals complaining about how heterosexuals "flaunt" their manliness. Of course, you don't hear that because they aren't complaining about it in the first place. Get over it Steve King, you are in no position to make judgments. In reply to doommarine: Flaunting == Impressing
I didn't see that at Pride last year. Though I was marching, so I might have missed all the fun stuff like that.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21914984]I'm Bi-sexual and flaunting Homos AND flaunting Heteros are the most annoying shit I ever seen. The difference is that the flaunting flaming Homo is typically protected and defended as a minority. You want fucking equality? Act normal, no one knows I'm Bi and even my best friends don't think I'm Bi, it isn't hard to act normal and to not act like you have to tell everyone you like dicks by some stupid flaunting attention whoring fashion. What do you think gay pride parades are? A bunch of naked gay guys going around like freaks, this fucking freaks people out and I can't blame them, [B]THIS IS THE IMAGE YOUR PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTING, [/B] [IMG]http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Science/Images/gay-pride-parade-toronto.jpg[/IMG] That doesn't look remotely normal to me in any way, and it's not like this is just one gay pride rally or one group of people, there is crazy gays at gay pride parades all the time. The problem with gays isn't gays, it's that the gay minority is that of weird flaming flaunting mofos who are loud as fuck and thus represent homosexuals. I am Bi-Sexual, I am in a gay relationship, I also like women. So I know what I am talking about, I am not bias because I can't be bias because I am both a Homo and a Hetero. There is annoying Heterosexuals but I've never seen any Heteros who flaunted as loudly as Homos have. [b]You want respect? Act like a normal person in society and no one will care, 1. [b]Gays aren't discriminated for liking men,[/b] but because people think of that flaming minority when you say gay. "Then why is it okay to flaunt your heterosexuality? IE: talking about what chick you banged last night or w/e." 2. [b]That also isn't flaunting, that's trying to impress your peers.[/b][/QUOTE] 1. Yes they fucking are. 2. It is flaunting.
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I love how one minute, the facepunch community supports gays. Now I see remarks portraying the assumption that all gays flaunt their stuff. Quite frankly, I don't "flaunt my stuff", nor do I ask for discrimination. But yet, I deal with it on a daily basis. Heterosexuals do flaunt their stuff, they just aren't hassled and discriminated about it. Straight sexual remarks all the time, sex in movies, but flaunting as in how a stereotypical gay flaunts is different. Because the heterosexual nature is abnormal to the homosexual, so when a homosexual displays or "flaunts" (mind you, not all of them do), it is considered absurd to the norm. This Steve King, is making a remark from a heterosexual point of view. Quite frankly, it's biased I guess you could say, because if you went on the other side of the fence, you would hear homosexuals complaining about how heterosexuals "flaunt" their manliness. Of course, you don't hear that because they aren't complaining about it in the first place. Get over it Steve King, you are in no position to make judgments. In reply to doommarine: Flaunting == Impressing Re-posting so nobody ignores it.
[QUOTE=staticman;21915112]1. Yes they fucking are. 2. It is flaunting.[/QUOTE] The only people who insult gays simply for liking men tend to be religious bigots who insult a wide range of people, not just gays. Gays are a minority so flaunting their sexuality is simply going to make the majority uncomfortable. The ones who chose to keep their private life private are ultimately going to be the ones who help in making homosexuality more accepted. And no, it's not flaunting. It's trying to impress your peers. In the same way that say, a swimmer says "Yeah, I swam 100 meters in four minutes". That's not flaunting that your a swimmer, your simply trying to impress people.
I agree with King. I meet a great deal of people in Berkeley/SF that will greet you as "Hi, I'm <name>, and I'm gay". Cool story bro. The biggest thing that annoys me is how suddenly when someone turns gay they need to sound like the stereotypical gay person. All that says to me is that you turned homosexual because you want the attention. I have a number of gay friends, but they don't wear the hottest clothes and try their hardest to sound like a valley girl; they act like normal people.
So wait, hold up. Why can't I talk about myself being gay? Straight guys talk about sex and woman so fucking much, it's almost redundant. Yes I KNOW you like tits and vagina, stop talking about it Christ. So why should you give a fuck if I start talking about cocks and getting it up the rear? It's hypocritical as hell.
Straight guys talk about all the straight shit they want, and no one gives a rat fuck. A gay guy says anything at all, and you motherfuckers tell him he has no right to talk like that because it makes you uncomfortable? You can't legislate or discriminate based on that alone. [editline]10:04PM[/editline] [QUOTE=The golden;21914394]Except no gay person actually does that. If a gay person does do it, it's beacuse they're an attention whore, not homosexual. They would do something similar even if they were heterosexual, it's what attention whores do.[/QUOTE] This. This. This. If you disagree, shut the fuck up, and read this again until you realize it.
I agree with your agreement of that statement.
[QUOTE=staticman;21911407]Yeah! He deserved to have his skull smashed in for wearing jeans, a t-shirt, and a jacket, and acting completely normal! :downs: [/QUOTE] Good job at missing the point. I'd expect no less from a furry, as this argument applies to you just as much as it does to flamboyant homosexuals. When you run around making sure everyone knows about your sexual preferences or fetishes by flaunting that shit, people are going to get annoyed and pissed off. It's fine if you have a sexual interest that differs from the norm, it's not fine that you feel the need to run around and make sure everyone knows. It just makes it seem like you're a fucking attention whore. That's why people hate furries. Anybody who labels themselves as a furry is an idiot. Are you turned on by anthropomorphic animals? Alright, that's a bit weird, but okay. But why the fuck do you feel the need to use a furry avatar? Nobody wants to see that; it's not necessary. It gets even worse when you're a furry who doesn't actually share the fetish. "I just want to live my life as a purple anthropomorphic horse trapped within a human!!! But I'm not in to the porn, ick, that's so weird and gross!" I just equate these people to weeaboos and wannabe gangsters. And just for the record, people who gloat about how they fucked a chick can also be grouped in with these sorts of people. It's attention-whoring.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;21914984]The difference is that the flaunting flaming Homo is typically protected and defended as a minority. You want fucking equality? Act normal, no one knows I'm Bi and even my best friends don't think I'm Bi, it isn't hard to act normal and to not act like you have to tell everyone you like dicks by some stupid flaunting attention whoring fashion. What do you think gay pride parades are? A bunch of naked gay guys going around like freaks, this fucking freaks people out and I can't blame them, [B]THIS IS THE IMAGE YOUR PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTING, [/B] That doesn't look remotely normal to me in any way, and it's not like this is just one gay pride rally or one group of people, there is crazy gays at gay pride parades all the time. The problem with gays isn't gays, it's that the gay minority is that of weird flaming flaunting mofos who are loud as fuck and thus represent homosexuals. I am Bi-Sexual, I am in a gay relationship, I also like women. So I know what I am talking about, I am not bias because I can't be bias because I am both a Homo and a Hetero. You want respect? Act like a normal person in society and no one will care, Gays aren't discriminated for liking men, but because people think of that flaming minority when you say gay. "Then why is it okay to flaunt your heterosexuality? IE: talking about what chick you banged last night or w/e." That also isn't flaunting, that's trying to impress your peers.[/QUOTE] Congratulations on being bi-sexual, but you calling these people "fucking freaks" and "weird flaming flaunting mofos" doesn't seem to make you an ideal spokesperson on the subject . Their purpose is to raise conciousness and to have fun. Once they become accepted, I would imagine these kinds of parades to turn down a notch. But even if they don't, who cares?! Have you even been to the mardi gras, if your gay, hetero or bi its heaps of fun just hanging out while it goes on. Stop being so fucking paranoid for no reason, its just some guys dancing with their pants off. If you replaced the whole damn parade with babes pole dancing in lingerie everyone would be all over that shit.
[QUOTE=Savaril;21915558]Good job at missing the point. I'd expect no less from a furry, as this argument applies to you just as much as it does to flamboyant homosexuals. When you run around making sure everyone knows about your sexual preferences or fetishes by flaunting that shit, people are going to get annoyed and pissed off. It's fine if you have a sexual interest that differs from the norm, it's not fine that you feel the need to run around and make sure everyone knows. It just makes it seem like you're a fucking attention whore. That's why people hate furries. Anybody who labels themselves as a furry is an idiot. Are you turned on by anthropomorphic animals? Alright, that's a bit weird, but okay. But why the fuck do you feel the need to use a furry avatar? Nobody wants to see that; it's not necessary. It gets even worse when you're a furry who doesn't actually share the fetish. "I just want to live my life as a purple anthropomorphic horse trapped within a human!!! But I'm not in to the porn, ick, that's so weird and gross!" I just equate these people to weeaboos and wannabe gangsters. And just for the record, people who gloat about how they fucked a chick can also be grouped in with these sorts of people. It's attention-whoring.[/QUOTE] Assuming you're a straight male, I'm sure you do the same thing to those around you. I bet you talk about hot girls, tits, and pussy all day. You flaunt your sexuality all over the place, why can't I?
I don't flaunt my sexuality. Did you even fucking read my post?
[QUOTE=Dr.Billington;21915580]Assuming you're a straight male, I'm sure you do the same thing to those around you. I bet you talk about hot girls, tits, and pussy all day. You flaunt your sexuality all over the place, why can't I?[/QUOTE] "Cause if you differ from the norm, you deserve to get your face smashed in for talking about it". Well, that's what it seems to be like. [editline]10:17PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Savaril;21915589]I don't flaunt my sexuality. Did you even fucking read my post?[/QUOTE] Straights, gays, furries, BDSMers, EVERY GROUP, has people who flaunt their shit. You're getting mad at gays and furries because it's not normal. Anyone and everyone should be able to flaunt their shit, no one really needs to, but everyone deserves the right to.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21915475]Straight guys talk about all the straight shit they want, and no one gives a rat fuck. A gay guy says anything at all, and you motherfuckers tell him he has no right to talk like that because it makes you uncomfortable? You can't legislate or discriminate based on that alone. [editline]10:04PM[/editline] This. This. This. If you disagree, shut the fuck up, and read this again until you realize it.[/QUOTE] So, if a pedophile started to talk to you about how great having sex with little girls is, you wouldn't feel abit uncomfortable? Before you say that I'm stupid for comparing Pedophilia to Homosexuality, I don't mean to say that homosexuality is bad or wrong. All I'm doing is pointing out that those who flaunt their sexuality in public while KNOWING that the majority of people in the world do not share their sexuality, they should expect to be discriminated.
[QUOTE=Gordy H.;21915618] All I'm doing is pointing out that those who flaunt their sexuality in public while KNOWING that the majority of people in the world do not share their sexuality, they should expect to be discriminated.[/QUOTE] Yeah But that doesn't make it right.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21915593]"Cause if you differ from the norm, you deserve to get your face smashed in for talking about it". Well, that's what it seems to be like. [editline]10:17PM[/editline] Straights, gays, furries, BDSMers, EVERY GROUP, has people who flaunt their shit. You're getting mad at gays and furries because it's not normal. Anyone and everyone should be able to flaunt their shit, no one really needs to, but everyone deserves the right to.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying they shouldn't deserve the right to. I'm saying it's a good enough reason for me to personally hate them. If they're going to do this shit they shouldn't be surprised when somebody is irritated by them.
[QUOTE=Gordy H.;21915618]So, if a pedophile started to talk to you about how great having sex with little girls is, you wouldn't feel abit uncomfortable? Before you say that I'm stupid for comparing Pedophilia to Homosexuality, I don't mean to say that homosexuality is bad or wrong. All I'm doing is pointing out that those who flaunt their sexuality in public while KNOWING that the majority of people in the world do not share their sexuality, they should expect to be discriminated.[/QUOTE] The fucking problem with that comparison is that one is hurting and destroying an innocent person, violating their rights, and doing serious damage to them. Flaunting that is like flaunting you killed someone, and more. [editline]10:23PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Savaril;21915647]I'm not saying they shouldn't deserve the right to. I'm saying it's a good enough reason for me to personally hate them.[/QUOTE] So you're shallow and hate gays because some gays flaunt it? You're a genius. :downs:
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