Wife Leaves Husband Who Refused To Give Up Son With Down Syndrome - Polidicks

Down syndrome is actually in decline now at least. Theres far fewer people being born with it than about 20 years ago.

[QUOTE=Zoran;47084360]Not for your entire life time. In most cases you're only going to be 100% committed until your child hits adulthood. If your child has a defect to that extent, it's completely different. Life changing, even.[/QUOTE] My bad, I worded this terribly. I do feel bad for the baby, but I sympathize with both sides.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;47084412]Making choices about your life is cowardice now? Nice shaming tactic.[/QUOTE] Making a choice that will directly implicate on the child's upbringing is. I'm not saying they shouldn't have a choice but I can't relate to people who can walk away from their own out of panic for their health.

[QUOTE=AK'z;47084429]Making a choice that will directly implicate on the child's upbringing is.[/QUOTE] End two lives to start one extremely difficult and painful one.

[QUOTE=Deng;47084414]Down syndrome is actually in decline now at least. Theres far fewer people being born with it than about 20 years ago.[/QUOTE] yet you still have it

As someone who works with down syndrome kids, the majority if not all were not going to be with the parents their whole life. There's many programs that they are put into to keep them busy and to have simple "jobs" that they do daily. Said programs also provide housing and plenty of other opportunities for them to be as independent as they can. Down syndrome also doesn't mean they are at the point where they can never speak or do anything, you won't actually know the extent until later in their life, and even at that point you can still give them up for adoption if you so choose. Some kids who have down syndrome know and understand it fully and can do everything normal kids do they just look different. It's sad to me that the mother is jumping ship so quick, kids with down syndrome are some of the nicest kids you will ever meet.

[QUOTE=OutLawed Blade;47084313]I know we'd all like to think that if any of us were in her shoes we'd throw down everything for our son and how easy it is to look down on her from across the internet but if you looked into the life of someone who has to care for a mental challenged person there's no doubt in my mind a lot of you would be considering her choice.[/QUOTE] Actually, I don't. My mother was a teacher of kids with special needs (retired because of health problems), and I had to work with a kid with Downs for my university's social programs. [B]Never again.[/B]

[QUOTE=BigAnimeFan;47084464]yet you still have it[/QUOTE] I'm not sure what the point you have here is.

[QUOTE=X12321;47084473]As someone who works with down syndrome kids, the majority if not all were not going to be with the parents their whole life. There's many programs that they are put into to keep them busy and to have simple "jobs" that they do daily. Said programs also provide housing and plenty of other opportunities for them to be as independent as they can. Down syndrome also doesn't mean they are at the point where they can never speak or do anything, you won't actually know the extent until later in their life, and even at that point you can still give them up for adoption if you so choose. Some kids who have down syndrome know and understand it fully and can do everything normal kids do they just look different. It's sad to me that the mother is jumping ship so quick, kids with down syndrome are some of the nicest kids you will ever meet.[/QUOTE] This is exactly the point. We're not in the middle ages, there's so much help out there.

I'm going to be blunt here-- if that happened to me, I would no doubt be doing the exact same thing the woman did. Call me heartless, monster, etc.-- but I'm not mentally, emotionally, or physically prepared to raise a kid in the first place-- let alone a kid with DS. Nor would I be willing to pretty much destroy the rest of my life just to raise a kid (for the rest of my life).

[QUOTE=Deng;47084492]I'm not sure what the point you have here is.[/QUOTE] -snip, don't want to encourage him to make more accounts-

Not all people with Down Syndrome are incapable of taking care of themselves like you guys think... There are some pretty successful people out there with Down Syndrome, though probably a more mild case than others. Remember that girl from American Horror Story?

[QUOTE=MrBunneh;47084261][img]http://facepunch.com/image.php?u=664386&dateline=1415063726[/img][/QUOTE] hurr yeah he's a nazi epic zinger bro. i assume you'd jump at the change of raising of a mentally disabled child who will, for the rest of your life, be an enormous burden requiring round the clock care while costing you vast sums of money

[QUOTE=Showgun;47084587]hurr yeah he's a nazi epic zinger bro. i assume you'd jump at the change of raising of a mentally disabled child who will, for the rest of your life, be an enormous burden requiring round the clock care while costing you vast sums of money[/QUOTE] People with downs syndrome don't require around the clock care. Often they are capable of taking care of themselves. I'm seriously getting the impression people are looking at the term 'down syndrome' and just assuming the level of care is close to that of someone with severe autism. It's not the case. Argue for all you want on whether she was justified or not but don't talk about it as if it is an open/shut case.

My cousin has severe downs syndrome, it's pretty incredible how my aunt dealt with him for the past 21 years. I don't think I'd have the mental strength to do it myself tbh. [editline]6th February 2015[/editline] But yeah it all depends on severity I guess.

[QUOTE=AK'z;47084328]This is sort of what you sign up for when you create life.[/QUOTE] No, it's not. Normally people are out of the house when they're 30.

My sister has down syndrome, this mother giving up on this just pisses me off. Sorry if im the judge in this situation, and people saying you should abort a child who has down syndrome. Your basically getting rid of a kid that you dont want. Suck it up, and deal with it.

[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;47084780]My sister has down syndrome, this mother giving up on this just pisses me off. Sorry if im the judge in this situation, and people saying you should abort a child who has down syndrome. Your basically getting rid of a kid that you dont want. Suck it up, and deal with it.[/QUOTE] What was your stance on abortion then? I don't understand what you're saying. Sidenote: Your youtube link 404's

[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;47084780]My sister has down syndrome, this mother giving up on this just pisses me off. Sorry if im the judge in this situation, and people saying you should abort a child who has down syndrome. Your basically getting rid of a kid that you dont want. Suck it up, and deal with it.[/QUOTE] aren't that what abortions are normally about? getting rid of kids you don't want.

there are plenty of people who can live a normal or somewhat a normal life with down syndrome

[QUOTE=Hat-Wearing Man;47084254]I'd like to hear why it is you think that.[/QUOTE] Having to care for someone with Down Syndrome more or less means your life is over. You exist to care for them. You have no free time, you have no money, you have nothing. Except then. It's not something I would wish on my worst enemies. Sounds cold, I know, but I couldn't do it. I can barely stand being around a healthy person. I just do not have it in me to be responsible for someone with a disease like that.

[QUOTE=viper shtf;47084277]Why didn't they test for downs in the womb, and abort?[/QUOTE] Its still rather uncommon for parents to do genetic testing yet, and its not covered by insurance(idk why not, seems a no brained but so isn't most preventative medicine) Also there's the problem with even finding a place to have abortions and the timing of them due to republican pro-life lobbies [editline]6th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;47084780]My sister has down syndrome, this mother giving up on this just pisses me off. Sorry if im the judge in this situation, and people saying you should abort a child who has down syndrome. Your basically getting rid of a kid that you dont want. Suck it up, and deal with it.[/QUOTE] I don't believe in life at conception, and ya its a very tricky subject but I'd rather not have a kid with downs syndrome if tests came back positive well in advance That said if it still turned out I would never abandon that child

[QUOTE=MrBunneh;47084261][img]http://facepunch.com/image.php?u=664386&dateline=1415063726[/img][/QUOTE] Ahem [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Rommel#Humanitarianism[/url] Erwin Rommel is noted for his chivalry and never associated himself with Nazi ideology, he openly criticized anti-Semitic views and his Afrika Korps was never charged with any war crimes. Do some research on him before associating him as a Nazi in the way you implied.

People with Down Syndrome are not as in need of some people think, they can take care of themselves. Once I have been served by a female with Down Syndrome in McDonalds. She got all my orders, even cracked a joke about my big green headphones.

my friend's brother has down's syndrome and he actually works out in the real world and makes an income. a lot of places are hiring people with special needs now. he lives a happy life and doesn't require around-the-clock care like most of you seem to be implying. he's a person with a life who contributes in some small way to society [editline]6th February 2015[/editline] and it's not like kids with down's are all that different from kids without

[QUOTE=T553412;47084487]Actually, I don't. My mother was a teacher of kids with special needs (retired because of health problems), and I had to work with a kid with Downs for my university's social programs. [B]Never again.[/B][/QUOTE] I was with my dad in Finland once, we were to evaluate rooms before starting renovation works in a soon-to-be-ex caring home for people with DS. Im a pretty bitter and cynical lad when it comes to emotions, but when I entered the rooms and saw them one by one.... Coincedentally, I started thinking "What if i have a similar baby?" It was really hard to be there, as if misery itself was walking witb me, giving me unease and anxiety. It was horrible.

[QUOTE=AWarGuy;47085340]Ahem [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Rommel#Humanitarianism[/url] Erwin Rommel is noted for his chivalry and never associated himself with Nazi ideology, he openly criticized anti-Semitic views and his Afrika Korps was never charged with any war crimes. Do some research on him before associating him as a Nazi in the way you implied.[/QUOTE] He also died as part of the July Plot to kill Hitler.

[QUOTE=TheHydra;47085462]my friend's brother has down's syndrome and he actually works out in the real world and makes an income. a lot of places are hiring people with special needs now. he lives a happy life and doesn't require around-the-clock care like most of you seem to be implying. he's a person with a life who contributes in some small way to society [editline]6th February 2015[/editline] and it's not like kids with down's are all that different from kids without[/QUOTE] Autism is considered a spectrum for a reason, even Down's Syndrome has varying degrees of autonomy.

[QUOTE=counterpo0;47084326]Same my cousins mother is getting old, and has a son aged 32 that can't walk, talk, eat, or shit by himself and is completely wheelchair bound. Not to sound mean, but he is 100% vegetable. What happens to them when the parents die? I wouldn't be able to raise a child with DS or extremely mentally challenged.[/QUOTE] Do these people actually even want to live? Spending an entire life stuck in a chair unable to do anything sounds like a living hell.

[QUOTE=Sableye;47085037]Its still rather uncommon for parents to do genetic testing yet, and its not covered by insurance(idk why not, seems a no brained but so isn't most preventative medicine) Also there's the problem with even finding a place to have abortions and the timing of them due to republican pro-life lobbies[/QUOTE] Apparently it's enough to impact on the numbers of people with downs. Of the people that get prenatal screening for downs, I think about 90% of them choose to abort. It's had a large enough impact that the population is in terminal decline. There used to be about 400,000 people with downs in the USA, and now there's only about 250,000.