Common Metal Could "Eliminate Fossile Fuels Overnight"

[Deutschbag]

[QUOTE=bravehat;24487850]No they zip through you like a microscopic needle, it's not that bad unless it's a wall of gamma hitting you.

Although if you want to take it as a dead on hit then it's damagin of course but the same goes for anything that hits a molecule dead on, one way or another it'll fuck you up, just gamma rays treat the body for the most part as a transparent material and go through you and go along their merry way unless a chemical bond is in the perfect space.

Basically we agree they are incredibly harmful I'm just saying that unless they are in decent numbers the damage is negligible on a full body perspective.[/QUOTE]

Decent numbers isn't necessarily a lot, though. Also, humans aren't entirely transparent to most gamma rays. Harmful gamma rays exist between 2 or 3 (can't remember which at present) and 10 MeV. The higher end of the scale is less harmful, because at those levels, soft tissue is indeed essentially transparent. However, at the lower end of the scale, it is far less so. Down around 3 and 4 MeV, soft tissue is to gamma rays as a lager is to light. Translucent, but certainly not transparent.

[bravehat]

Yeah it's between 2 and 10 MeV but still, low numbers of gamma rays aren't going to do much, and that's my point, gamma rays will fuck you up if they happen to hit some very vital DNA and cause a cancerous mutation, but most of the time they are going to just pass through you because of their size, I'm not saying they cant hurt you or kill you just that it's unlikely unless you end up with a wall of focused gamma rays hitting you.

And about the non ionising thing, I just woke up recently and in the retarded post wake up mental haze forgot ionising radiation isn't necessarily charged radiation :doh:

[Deutschbag]

[QUOTE=bravehat;24488071]Yeah it's between 2 and 10 MeV but still, low numbers of gamma rays aren't going to do much, and that's my point, gamma rays will fuck you up if they happen to hit some very vital DNA and cause a cancerous mutation, but most of the time they are going to just pass through you because of their size, I'm not saying they cant hurt you or kill you just that it's unlikely unless you end up with a wall of focused gamma rays hitting you.[/QUOTE]

Well good, I'm glad you agree with me. I was fearing you were a lost cause when you claimed gamma radiation was harmless and non-ionizing.

[bravehat]

Nah, I said that they are capable of fucking you up, just that it's unlikely due to their tiny size and that they would have to strike an important part of a cells DNA, cause a cell can replace it's organelles easily when they are damaged and if junk DNA is hit then it likely wont effect a cells operation.

Unless it activates a gene which makes the cell produce a new chemical compound that effects cells surrounding it of course.

[Deutschbag]

[QUOTE=bravehat;24488161]Nah, I said that they are capable of fucking you up[/quote]

[QUOTE=bravehat;24486851]And gamma rays are fine, anyone who bitches about them is a pussy.[/QUOTE]

Interesting about-face.

[bravehat]

Yeah fine for the most part due to negligible damage unless it's a wall.

:doh: for fuck sake I've said that from the start, the only time you should be bitching is if it's a 24 hour constant stream of gamma rays because at that point since you are being hit with them constantly the likely hood of major damage to cells skyrockets.