Zach Avery, 4, Is Among Youngest In Britain To Be Diagnosed With Gender Identity Disorder (GID) - Polidicks

I'm all for Transgender people and everything but I am massively uncomfortable with the idea of a kid deciding their gender. Who you are is constantly changing, and never in life more-so than childhood, it just seems awful to make that massive of a life decision at an age where your comprehension of life in general is by far the worst it could be in your existence. This is a fucked up subject to think about.

[QUOTE=salty peanut v2;34792576]poor child the Thomas years were some of the best of my life[/QUOTE] yeah you can really see some strong lines of internalized sexism there [editline]21st February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=HawkeyeTy;34792648]I'm all for Transgender people and everything but I am massively uncomfortable with the idea of a >10 year old deciding their gender. Who you are is constantly changing, and never in life more-so than childhood, it just seems awful to make that massive of a life decision at a age where your comprehension of life in general is the worst it will ever be in your. This is a fucked up subject to think about.[/QUOTE] How? Kids are pretty aware of things She knows that pink and dora = girls, and thomas the tank engine = boys, and that dicks = boys, and feels an affinity for the girls side of things

[QUOTE=HawkeyeTy;34792648]I'm all for Transgender people and everything but I am massively uncomfortable with the idea of a kid deciding their gender. Who you are is constantly changing, and never in life more-so than childhood, it just seems awful to make that massive of a life decision at a age where your comprehension of life in general is the by far worst it will ever be in your existance. This is a fucked up subject to think about.[/QUOTE] Except what happens is therapy, no 'life desicion' is made, other then living as they want, and therapy, and when the time comes, if is still going on, puberty blockers until they are legally and mentally mature enough for therapists to decide if they should be put on hormones.

[QUOTE=HawkeyeTy;34792648]I'm all for Transgender people and everything but I am massively uncomfortable with the idea of a kid deciding their gender. Who you are is constantly changing, and never in life more-so than childhood, it just seems awful to make that massive of a life decision at a age where your comprehension of life in general is the by far worst it will ever be in your existance. This is a fucked up subject to think about.[/QUOTE]Its not about making a choice or decision, its about awareness. They aren't making a decision at this age, they are just becoming aware of it, as I previously stated.

[QUOTE=HawkeyeTy;34792648]I'm all for Transgender people and everything but I am massively uncomfortable with the idea of a >10 year old deciding their gender. Who you are is constantly changing, and never in life more-so than childhood, it just seems awful to make that massive of a life decision at a age where your comprehension of life in general is the worst it will ever be in your. This is a fucked up subject to think about.[/QUOTE] i don't agree that this is a very fucked up subject but i do agree that the kid at 4 doesn't really know what the fuck he's talking about. he might like pigtails and the color pink, but whoa okay chopping at your dick because your mom won't let you wear a dress? i didn't even know girls and boys had different parts at that age, so how does he know he doesn't want a dick? i dunno man, that shit don't make no sense.

Personally I wouldn't let my kid do this until they hit puberty. When they're something like 4 years old you don't know if for sure that they're going to grow out of it or if it's something that will always be with them.

[quote][B]a person's actual physical gender[/B][/quote] and this folks, is what is wrong with GID doctors [editline]21st February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Meller Yeller;34792831]Personally I wouldn't let my kid do this until they hit puberty.[/QUOTE] You wouldn't let them do what? Go to the doctor? [editline]21st February 2012[/editline] you are aware that nothing has occurred other than a diagnosis has been made?

[QUOTE=Contag;34792870]and this folks, is what is wrong with GID doctors [editline]21st February 2012[/editline] You wouldn't let them do what? Go to the doctor?[/QUOTE] I would probably not do much of anything. See if it's something they go through and get tired of or to see if it actually lasts.

[quote]This includes children who are unhappy with their biological sex. Some may be boys who prefer activities and role associated with the opposite [B]sex[/B], some may also identify as the opposite [B]sex[/B] and vice versa for girls.[/quote] sex =/= gender!

[QUOTE=TheJoey;34792724]i don't agree that this is a very fucked up subject but i do agree that the kid at 4 doesn't really know what the fuck he's talking about. he might like pigtails and the color pink, but whoa okay chopping at your dick because your mom won't let you wear a dress? i didn't even know girls and boys had different parts at that age, so how does he know he doesn't want a dick? i dunno man, that shit don't make no sense.[/QUOTE]He may not know what the different reproductive organs are at that age, but he is aware that there are differences. Many children are aware of differences in the sexes to at least a small degree even that young. I knew girls didn't have penises at about his age. Hell, I remember some of my friends speculating what girls actually had instead of a penis in second grade; if they had anything to wager, they'd have been placing bets.

[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;34792911]I would probably not do much of anything. See if it's something they go through and get tired of or to see if it actually lasts.[/QUOTE] It's not really the kind of thing you can just 'wait and see what's happening' You're trying to cut off your penis? Sure thing, I guess it might just be a phase you'll grow out of :v:

[QUOTE=Contag;34792474]there is no such thing as a male structured brain prior to socialization, and even then, it's a pretty poor concept as otherwise all males would be roughly similar, as would all females in terms of behaviour[/QUOTE] This is simply not true. Although some of the differences between the genders are due to society: it has has been found that female brains have more connection between the left and right hemispheres, females tend to be better at language than math etc.

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy16;34792959]This is simply not true. Although some of the differences between the genders are due to society: it has has been found that female brains have more connection between the left and right hemispheres, females tend to be better at language than math etc.[/QUOTE] which occurs after socialization because they've done it more!!! this isn't the 1950s gender roles are bullshit and half the population is not naturally better at gender-neutral tasks [editline]21st February 2012[/editline] it's the same case as with the brain differences between people of different political persuasion

[QUOTE=Contag;34792941]It's not really the kind of thing you can just 'wait and see what's happening' You're trying to cut off your penis? Sure thing, I guess it might just be a phase you'll grow out of :v:[/QUOTE] Good thing I'm not a parent then :downs:

Kid must have just been watching too much pain olympics and tried to copy it.

He used to cry and try to cut off his willy out of frustration.

[QUOTE=Contag;34792994]which occurs after socialization because they've done it more!!! this isn't the 1950s gender roles are bullshit and half the population is not naturally better at gender-neutral tasks [editline]21st February 2012[/editline] it's the same case as with the brain differences between people of different political persuasion[/QUOTE] I think you have the cause and effect backwards. People of certain political persuasions and skill sets gravitate towards these [b]because[/b] of their brain structure, not the other way around.

[QUOTE=The DooD;34793047]Kid must have just been watching too much pain olympics and tried to copy it.[/QUOTE] I don't think I can even comprehend how unfunny and stupid that joke was.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;34792621]What the hell do synthetic proteins have to do with anything?[/QUOTE] Well, according to the other thread, Sex changes are on the rise, so is the use of synthetic proteins within our food, as well as a rise in cancers. Saying it's not even worth looking into is dumb.

[QUOTE=DarkSpider;34793278]Well, according to the other thread, Sex changes are on the rise, so is the use of synthetic proteins within our food, as well as a rise in cancers. Saying it's not even worth looking into is dumb.[/QUOTE]First of all, correlation does not imply causation. Second of all, there is no indication of any correlation at all, you're just making a blind stab in the dark. Its like the whole thing about cell phones causing cancer, which was quickly refuted.

[QUOTE=DarkSpider;34793278]Well, according to the other thread, Sex changes are on the rise, so is the use of synthetic proteins within our food, as well as a rise in cancers. Saying it's not even worth looking into is dumb.[/QUOTE] "Penguins are black and white, old TV shows are black and white. Therefore, Penguins are Old TV shows."

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;34793374]First of all, correlation does not imply causation. Second of all, there is no indication of any correlation at all, you're just making a blind stab in the dark. [b]Its like the whole thing about cell phones causing cancer, which was quickly refuted.[/b][/QUOTE] The World Health Organization disagrees [url]http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/05/31/who.cell.phones/index.html[/url]

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy16;34793436]The World Health Organization disagrees [url]http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/05/31/who.cell.phones/index.html[/url][/QUOTE] Yeah, that's the study I was talking about. It seeing a lot of criticism.

[QUOTE=DarkSpider;34792421]Mother shouldn't have let him watch Dora the explorer at such an impressionable age.[/QUOTE] are you seriously going to blame dora the explorer? that's the most ridiculous thing i've heard all week.

[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;34792911]I would probably not do much of anything. See if it's something they go through and get tired of or to see if it actually lasts.[/QUOTE] That is a stupid thing to do and would just cause depression later on.

As much as I agree you have the freedom to do it, I highly doubt you'd let your kid get tg treatment. So I sorta gotta agree with the concept of 18 years old being the age to start treatment.

Oh great, ANOTHER THREAD like this. and meller yeller, yay

[QUOTE=Contag;34792994]which occurs after socialization because they've done it more!!! this isn't the 1950s gender roles are bullshit and half the population is not naturally better at gender-neutral tasks [editline]21st February 2012[/editline] it's the same case as with the brain differences between people of different political persuasion[/QUOTE] hmm, wasn't aware I was capable of changing the size of my medulla oblongata funny the lengths people will go to to deny any difference between men and women that is not immediately obvious (tits, penis, etc)

[QUOTE=DarkSpider;34793278]Well, according to the other thread, Sex changes are on the rise, so is the use of synthetic proteins within our food, as well as a rise in cancers. Saying it's not even worth looking into is dumb.[/QUOTE] I own a dog. A dog is a mammal. Therefore, [I]I own all mammals.[/I]

[QUOTE=Last or First;34793726]I own a dog. A dog is a mammal. Therefore, [I]I own all mammals.[/I][/QUOTE] that's not even a logical fallacy as much as it is a retarded jump "I own a dog. Therefore I own all dogs."