• Zach Avery, 4, Is Among Youngest In Britain To Be Diagnosed With Gender Identity Disorder (GID)
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[QUOTE=Elecbullet;34793630]hmm, wasn't aware I was capable of changing the size of my medulla oblongata funny the lengths people will go to to deny any difference between men and women that is not immediately obvious (tits, penis, etc)[/QUOTE] if you want to change the size of your hippocampus, undergo trauma and get PTSD it's the funny the length some idiots will go to preserve the status quo
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;34793818]that's not even a logical fallacy as much as it is a retarded jump "I own a dog. Therefore I own all dogs."[/QUOTE] That's the joke. Also, I just finished watching KungFuJesus' God Hand LP. Blame medibot. Nonetheless, blaming transgenderism on McDonalds is fucking stupid.
[quote]try to cut off his willy in frustration[/quote] I'm going to hell for laughing.
[QUOTE=TheJoker;34791980]People still use the word "willy"?[/QUOTE] When a child is young yes? What did you call yours? EDIT: Hell, Americans call Poo "Poop", I know I'm not alone in thinking that sounds childish.
Puberty = hell for someone with GID. The earlier the better so long as the person is 100% sure and so is the doctor.
[quote]"He used to cry and try to cut off his willy out of frustration."[/quote] It's his Emo phase, totally explains it... :v:
[QUOTE=cyclocius;34793931]When a child is young yes? What did you call yours?[/QUOTE] Theodore
holy FUCK CAN WE ALL STOP MISGENDERING [I][B][U]HER[/U][/B][/I] [editline]hi[/editline] Also, im just going to repost myself [quote=Skelmech;177304] Oh great one of these threads again sigh Gender Identity devolps in the womb, and from that point its concrete. It cant, and wont be changed. A child will know what their Gender Identity is honestly from an extremely young age. (Or atleast, in most cases/as far as we know) If you're going to say that a child should wait to start any kind of hormonal treatments until their 18, you're telling them to go through one of the most confusing times in their life and most depressing, then tell them to experience the puberty of the sex they were "born as" which is painful, even more confusing, and usually develops into lifelong depression and suicidal tendencies. If you're going to make anybody suffer through something like that because you don't think they've got their mind made up(Which, by the way, you have to go through 6 months to a year of therapy to make absolutely sure you have GID) then I can't take you seriously and i'm going to consider you a horrible person.[/quote]
gender identity doesn't develop in the womb though because gender doesn't exist naturally or do you mean a predisposition to stereotypical gender traits?
Uh, yes it does. A gender Identity is a thing you're relying too much on the whole "society forms your gender everyone is actually genderless!" thing
[QUOTE=Skelmech;34794316]Uh, yes it does. A gender Identity is a thing you're relying too much on the whole "society forms your gender everyone is actually genderless!" thing[/QUOTE] You know what you get what you take babies and leave them in the wild (and they by some stroke of luck don't die)? They don't begin to like dora the explorer and pink, or thomas the tank engine and blue, they become snarling animals how can you say gender identity is a static thing when our society only offers two bloody choices even there are plenty more how can you say gender identity is static when gender isn't static jesus christ I don't know what the fuck you're relying on, it certainly isn't your brain [editline]21st February 2012[/editline] go read [I]science of gender[/I] and [I]myths of gender[/I] both are by feminist scholars though so if you don't believe in the kyriarchy look elsewhere [sub][sub]and die[/sub][/sub]
Man, I was just like this kid back then (albeit less British). Maybe I need to see a professional.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;34794472]Man, I was just like this kid back then. Maybe I need to see a professional.[/QUOTE] "Seeing a professional" is exactly what happens when this kind of thing is sorted out. So there's absolutely no way this can get far enough to become a regretful decision unless she is actually in need of a sex change.
[QUOTE=Contag;34794365]You know what you get what you take babies and leave them in the wild (and they by some stroke of luck don't die)? They don't begin to like dora the explorer and pink, or thomas the tank engine and blue, they become snarling animals how can you say gender identity is a static thing when our society only offers two bloody choices even there are plenty more how can you say gender identity is static when gender isn't static jesus christ I don't know what the fuck you're relying on, it certainly isn't your brain [editline]21st February 2012[/editline] go read [I]science of gender[/I] and [I]myths of gender[/I] both are by feminist scholars though so if you don't believe in the kyriarchy look elsewhere [sub][sub]and die[/sub][/sub][/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure there's a difference between gender roles (girls like pink and are submissive, boys like blue and are dominant) and gender identity (I am a girl, I am a boy). They're not basing it off of "I like skirts", but off of some feeling inside of them that their sex doesn't match up with their gender. Gender roles aren't ingrained, identity is. At least that's how I understand it, I'm not transgender. If I have part of this wrong, someone let me know.
[QUOTE=DarkSpider;34792421]Mother shouldn't have let him watch Dora the explorer at such an impressionable age. Unless there is physical evidence that it is in his genes, it's most likely his environment at the young age of 4 that leads him to believe false things.[/QUOTE] Did you just seriously say dora the explorer turned her into a trans. Its like im reading an article from the Onion.
[quote]sex doesn't match up with their gender[/quote] gender doesn't match up to sex though In another thread, I posted a picture of Justin Bieber and Clint Eastwood, and asked how they could possibly be regarded as the same gender it's a spectrum, not your typical dichotomous relationship binary bullshit [editline]21st February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=codemaster85;34794585]Did you just seriously say dora the explorer turned her into a trans. Its like in reding an article from the Onion.[/QUOTE] oh god I like Dora the explorer [img]http://www.facepunch.com/avatar/222168.png?garryis=awesome[/img] I've been warned about catching the gays, now there's trans* to contend with!
[QUOTE=HorizoN;34793536]That is a stupid thing to do and would just cause depression later on.[/QUOTE] Well that would depend on if it's actually legit or not. I'm not going to start calling a 4 year old "she" because they're watching Dora the Explorer and wearing dresses. It's too early to call.
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;34794956]Well that would depend on if it's actually legit or not. I'm not going to start calling a 4 year old "she" because they're watching Dora the Explorer and wearing dresses. It's too early to call.[/QUOTE] No one is suggesting that you should [B]just[/B] because of that. What they ARE saying that it if that child [B]also [/B]insists on being a girl, prehapse they should be taken to a psychologist, and see what the psycologist says.
Maybe he just wants to use the staff bathrooms. People will do most anything for a comfortable toilet.
[QUOTE=Contag;34794365]You know what you get what you take babies and leave them in the wild (and they by some stroke of luck don't die)? They don't begin to like dora the explorer and pink, or thomas the tank engine and blue, they become snarling animals how can you say gender identity is a static thing when our society only offers two bloody choices even there are plenty more how can you say gender identity is static when gender isn't static jesus christ I don't know what the fuck you're relying on, it certainly isn't your brain [editline]21st February 2012[/editline] go read [I]science of gender[/I] and [I]myths of gender[/I] both are by feminist scholars though so if you don't believe in the kyriarchy look elsewhere [sub][sub]and die[/sub][/sub][/QUOTE] what the fuck even if they become snarling animals, they still know GIRL, BOY they have to for reproductive reasons? like all animals do? Stop thinking im insinuating gender roles dont have a lot to do with transgenderism and shit. I know they do, but a GENDER IDENTITY is something HARDCODED in your brain that tells you if you're a girl or a boy. and its not always congruent with sex
you sure read those books fast even animals have socialization part of the reason why pandas won't reproduce to save their species How can gender identity be hardcoded when what constitutes a boy or a girl isn't?? I give up, go reproduce the same kyriarchal bullshit system that undoubtedly makes your life hell at times some more
oh my god just nevermind jesus christ you're way too focused on what makes a girl or a boy, which is nothing. doesn't mean the two distinct things don't exist in ones head :/
[QUOTE=Contag;34795070]you sure read those books fast even animals have socialization part of the reason why pandas won't reproduce to save their species How can gender identity be hardcoded when what constitutes a boy or a girl isn't?? I give up, go reproduce the same kyriarchal bullshit system that undoubtedly makes your life hell at times some more[/QUOTE] I think you're getting it mixed up. There are two genders, sure some are more femine as a male. Same with women being more masculine. But to the core they are either male or female. GID can be the same, but the person know that they are the wrong core gender body.
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[QUOTE=codemaster85;34795251]I think you're getting it mixed up. There are two genders, sure some are more femine as a male. Same with women being more masculine. But to the core they are either male or female. GID can be the same, but the person know that they are the wrong core gender body.[/QUOTE] theres more than two genders though
[QUOTE=DarkSpider;34793278]Well, according to the other thread, Sex changes are on the rise, so is the use of synthetic proteins within our food, as well as a rise in cancers. Saying it's not even worth looking into is dumb.[/QUOTE] I don't know guys I think this might be legit. I'd trust anyone who relates GID to watching Dora the Explorer. [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/Boxbot219/SarcMark-002.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Skelmech;34795380]theres more than two genders though[/QUOTE] I know, im saying as a extremely bare look. It is a gradient of gender, but people say i am a boy/girl.
People in this thread don't seem to understand that sex != gender. Sex is biological, penis or vagina. Gender is the social/psychological analog, and isn't set in stone as "male" or "female" and not something you have to stick with for the rest of your life (Sex is becoming the same way, too) There is no actual binary.
[QUOTE=Cone;34794551]"Seeing a professional" is exactly what happens when this kind of thing is sorted out. So there's absolutely no way this can get far enough to become a regretful decision unless she is actually in need of a sex change.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry but: what? I don't know what exactly you're saying? I'm saying that I felt/acted a lot like this kid did back when I was his age, my parents blew it off as "just a phase", and now I'm thinking about looking into it and seeing a doctor.
[QUOTE=TheJoker;34791980]People still use the word "willy"?[/QUOTE] My parents and I called it a "finkadoodalus" until I was 5 or 6.
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