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[QUOTE=Sobotnik;32654005]Like the men who died in the battle of the Somme.[/QUOTE] What do you mean?

These protests aren't just happening in the USA, on the 15th there will be protests all over the world, all over Canada! there will be one in my city even. FUCK YEAH!

I started a protest in my small town :v:.

This hasn't even been reported at all in Australia, it's kind of sad.

[QUOTE=Thyroxin;32654165]I started a protest in my small town :v:.[/QUOTE] Lead them along Marxist-Leninist principals.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;32650444]I'm confused, are you actually saying something potentially disparaging about someone in the right wing? I mean, maybe its just me, but that does sound like what you're hinting at.[/QUOTE] Interpret it that way if you want. All I'm saying is that he has no reason to think he's useless when he's providing a profitable time block on the radio that keeps attracting advertisers and sponsors, which in turn attracts customers to his sponsors' and advertisers' products.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;32654367]Lead them along Marxist-Leninist principals.[/QUOTE] Did you just say the meme "Convert it to communism" In a completely different way? I don't know how that popped up in my mind.

If only Anon was never involved in the protests more people would take part in the protests. Im still unceartin as to Anon's involvement but a LOT of people are still "upset" with that lot. [editline]6th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;32654367]Lead them along Marxist-Leninist principals.[/QUOTE] That is one reason why a lot of the people don't want to get involved in the protests. Whats little has been said in the media has them painted as terrorists, communist, socialists, anarchists, haters of America, haters of Free Market, etc etc etc.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;32654367]Lead them along Marxist-Leninist principals.[/QUOTE] Because that worked well so far, right?

[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;32654798]If only Anon was never involved in the protests more people would take part in the protests. Im still unceartin as to Anon's involvement but a LOT of people are still "upset" with that lot. [/QUOTE] anon AREN'T involved. sure they throw videos around, but just LOOK at protest videos. How many guy fawkes mask do you see? I've seen 1 TOPS. people need to get off this "It's nothing but a bunch of whiny 4-chan kids" thing, it's not true. and the medias been lying through it's teeth from the beginning.

[QUOTE=SIRIUS;32654115]These protests aren't just happening in the USA, on the 15th there will be protests all over the world, all over Canada! there will be one in my city even. FUCK YEAH![/QUOTE] I'll probably be at the one in Calgary if only to take pictures and film things.

[QUOTE=rundevil;32655049]anon AREN'T involved. sure they throw videos around, but just LOOK at protest videos. How many guy fawkes mask do you see? I've seen 1 TOPS. people need to get off this "It's nothing but a bunch of whiny 4-chan kids" thing, it's not true. and the medias been lying through it's teeth from the beginning.[/QUOTE]An amazingly large number of people seem to be using their imagery though. Look at a lot of the spin-off protests starting around the country. Many of them have of them are trying to relate themselves to Anonymous. I mean, who thought this was a good image to use? [thumb]http://occupycleveland.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/failed.jpg[/thumb] Or why does Occupy San Fransisco on Facebook have Anonymous in its like? Hell, my local city has one of its posters with a giant Guy Fawkes mask on it. [editline]6th October 2011[/editline] As much as we may not like it, the people involved in the formation of many of these are either involved with Anonymous, or at least want that association. Honestly, what does this even say you are trying to do or who you are? [thumb]http://www.blackstonecommission.com/flyer3.png[/thumb] For whatever reason, they seem to like the association with Anonymous. Maybe its because of the recent labeling as "Hacktivist" or whatever, but saying that they aren't involved isn't exactly correct. (Though I do like how my city is using the QR Code.)

[QUOTE]Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain told reporters in Houston today that the Wall Street protesters are “trying to disrupt the whole country.” “This is an attempt by the [b]left[/b] to create a distraction from the failed policies of this administration,” Cain said.[/QUOTE] Funny, you could replace "left" with "right" or "Tea Party" and get the same exact message. I'm glad to see Obama understands their message.

[quote]“This is an attempt by the left to create a distraction from the failed policies of this administration,” [/quote] wait does this even make sense at all they're [I]drawing[/I] attention to the failed policies of the administration, among other things.

[QUOTE=Medevilae;32657129]Obama's jobs bill coincides with a lot of what they're fighting for.[/QUOTE] And even that won't be able to pass, let allowing undoing corporate personhood or putting limits on campaign finance or the Federal Reserve. To a certain extent I understand why Obama [I]couldn't[/I] try to force these issues, but at this point there is a mass protest on that side, and if he signed on he'd be practically guaranteed re-election.

[QUOTE=Medevilae;32657283]Despite the impressive turn out the Occupy protests have been getting here in the US, I believe the general public is uninformed/misinformed to the point where if he were to sign such a bill or act the inevitable Republican would be taken at face value.[/QUOTE] Republican voters aren't going to be voting for Obama pretty much no matter what he does, it's pointless to try winning them over.

[QUOTE=rundevil;32655049]anon AREN'T involved. sure they throw videos around, but just LOOK at protest videos. How many guy fawkes mask do you see? I've seen 1 TOPS. people need to get off this "It's nothing but a bunch of whiny 4-chan kids" thing, it's not true. and the medias been lying through it's teeth from the beginning.[/QUOTE] Thats what I thought. I just dont see Anon hackers really going out to do something. I should have been clearer in the original post. I should have said their "so called" involvement upsets a lot of people. Thanks for clearing that up. [editline]6th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Megafanx13;32657388]Republican voters aren't going to be voting for Obama pretty much no matter what he does, it's pointless to try winning them over.[/QUOTE] Well IMO if a more capable candidate from either party or even third or fourth party. All I see is a hypocritical administration that went out of its way to be as bad as a GOP administration (Not closing Gitmo, still in Afghanistan and Iraq, Economic reform is a joke considering the hyperpluralism is crushing the system (Dodd-Frank pfffff) and other foul ups. Or your stuck with crazy, jingoistic, bigotted GOP. I dont know what the protests will help now that the media has an embargo on telling the truth on either side. I think the Mass Media can suppress this and any gains that could have been made will not happen. Rant over. I should probably take my tinfoil hat off now?

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32649158]A longer, differently angled video of the brawl today: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELEBAGIool0[/media][/QUOTE] Coming from someone who is in support of the protests: I think people need to shut the fuck up about all this police brutality crap. Judging from the video, obviously a huge group of people were rushing the barricade (or trying to carry it away (wtf?)) which is AT LEAST disorderly conduct. The cops weren't even beating on anyone. The cop swinging with the batton was beating on a guys backpack (which from the other video it looked like he WAS bashing someone, so it could have been spun as "OMGZORZ POLICE BRUTALITAYYY). Other cops were pushing people away. Other cops were using pepper spray, and coming from someone who has been sprayed with OC multiple times before, it's not that bad. You'll get over it. Imagine yourself as a cop in that crowd. There's 20 of you and hundreds of batshit angry people screaming at you, being crazy, and all they are trying to do is contain the situation. It's a stressful time for everybody involved and people do stupid things. I am in no way defending Mr. Bologna who sprayed the group of women sitting there doing nothing, or any of that shit. I am in the United States Marine Corps, I have buddies in the police, and I have also been to many protests, rallies etc. in support of gay rights, anti-wall street and anti-government being assholes. So I have experience on both sides of the fence. I'm just trying to view things realistically. Remember that most of the police forces are part of the 99% as well. They (most) are only doing their jobs.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32657388]Republican voters aren't going to be voting for Obama pretty much no matter what he does, it's pointless to try winning them over.[/QUOTE] There are only actually a certain percent of the population that can be won over. The majority either votes for one side or the other.

[QUOTE=Coridan;32657940]Coming from someone who is in support of the protests: I think people need to shut the fuck up about all this police brutality crap. Judging from the video, obviously a huge group of people were rushing the barricade (or trying to carry it away (wtf?)) which is AT LEAST disorderly conduct. The cops weren't even beating on anyone. The cop swinging with the batton was beating on a guys backpack (which from the other video it looked like he WAS bashing someone, so it could have been spun as "OMGZORZ POLICE BRUTALITAYYY). Other cops were pushing people away. Other cops were using pepper spray, and coming from someone who has been sprayed with OC multiple times before, it's not that bad. You'll get over it. Imagine yourself as a cop in that crowd. There's 20 of you and hundreds of batshit angry people screaming at you, being crazy, and all they are trying to do is contain the situation. It's a stressful time for everybody involved and people do stupid things.[/QUOTE] I'm aware that not all police are corrupt and there are those genuinely trying to do their job as best they can. However, I must congratulate you on managing to not only marginalize police brutality as an issue and dismiss any claims of it in regard to this particular incident as "OMGZORS POLICE BRUTALITAYYY". I was watching the livestream when it happened, people were being beaten by those high-ranking officers. In fact one from the media team had a camera inside the police wagon and one of the arrested explained how he was shoved against a wall, had his nose smashed, and his glasses broken. To say that there was no police brutality, and the police in this scene were just "doing their jobs" is naive at best and dishonest at worst. [editline]6th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Ogopogo;32657971]There are only actually a certain percent of the population that can be won over. The majority either votes for one side or the other.[/QUOTE] Right, and there are generally four camps: GOP voters, Democratic voters, Independent voters, and people who don't vote. A Democrat isn't going to convince those GOP voters to support him, so he's got to side with the independent opinion sometimes and reach out to those who don't vote. Right now, the majority of favour is with the "tax the rich a bit more, stop letting corporations corrupt our democracy" side, so that's what's going to get someone the most votes. I'm not saying Obama should side with them because it'll get him re-elected, I'm saying that he should side with them because it's the right thing to do. His re-election is little more than an afterthought.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32658019]I'm aware that not all police are corrupt and there are those genuinely trying to do their job as best they can. However, I must congratulate you on managing to not only marginalize police brutality as an issue and dismiss any claims of it in regard to this particular incident as "OMGZORS POLICE BRUTALITAYYY". I was watching the livestream when it happened, people were being beaten by those high-ranking officers. In fact one from the media team had a camera inside the police wagon and one of the arrested explained how he was shoved against a wall, had his nose smashed, and his glasses broken. To say that there was no police brutality, and the police in this scene were just "doing their jobs" is naive at best and dishonest at worst.[/QUOTE] I understand what you're saying. And, since I did not see the livestream, I was only speaking of what I saw in that particular clip. Not the entire event. From what I saw, it looked like people attacking the barricade. Please correct me if I am wrong. However, if you are going to partake in a violent protest, be prepared to get your ass beaten. It goes with the territory.

[QUOTE=Coridan;32658122]I understand what you're saying. And, since I did not see the livestream, I was only speaking of what I saw in that particular clip. Not the entire event. From what I saw, it looked like people attacking the barricade. Please correct me if I am wrong. However, if you are going to partake in a violent protest, be prepared to get your ass beaten. It goes with the territory.[/QUOTE] I'm sure there was at least [I]somebody[/I] who did something physical, I'm not psychic, but based on the camera near the front, it was largely peaceful, and it was the high-rank cops that struck first. Additionally, the "you should expect to be beaten" argument is not an argument at all, just so you know.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32658475]I'm sure there was at least [I]somebody[/I] who did something physical, I'm not psychic, but based on the camera near the front, it was largely peaceful, and it was the high-rank cops that struck first. Additionally, the "you should expect to be beaten" argument is not an argument at all, just so you know.[/QUOTE] It is not an argument -- it is a realistic statement.

[QUOTE][/QUOTE]For the one time in my life I actually feel passionate about an issue and can participate, I'm not able to go. I was planning on taking our commuter rail due to traffic and lack of parking, but it got shut down for total non-suspicious reasons. We have a huge turnout in Portland, Oregon that I missed because of that. At least our Mayor isn't totally against it and is at least passively okay with it. [url]http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/10/occupy_portland_mayor_sam_adam.html[/url] [QUOTE]Portland Mayor Sam Adams released this statement Thursday morning: A group called Occupy Portland has announced plans to peacefully assemble in Waterfront Park today at noon, march through downtown, and ultimately occupy a downtown park or other location. The Occupy Wall Street movement started in New York City and "Occupy" events like these have happened in dozens of cities across the country in recent weeks, from Los Angeles to Washington, D.C. The vast majority of these events have been conducted peacefully. The City of Portland has been preparing for the Occupy Portland event, with a goal of facilitating a peaceful, effective, and orderly event where everyone is safe. Representatives of the City of Portland and the Portland Police Bureau have outreached to those helping to organize Occupy Portland activities, and have encouraged the group to obtain a permit and/or share their planned march route and gathering spots. A permit allows the Police Bureau, TriMet, and other agencies to plan for a safe, peaceful, and lawful event. Occupy Portland has so far not obtained a permit; regardless, the Police Bureau will be working to facilitate a safe and orderly procession. Obviously there may be disruptions in vehicle, pedestrian, and TriMet traffic in the downtown core on Thursday afternoon, beginning at noon. I support Portlanders in their right to protest and exercise free speech rights, and I encourage all who participate to do so peacefully and with respect to the rights of others. [B]Most of the people that are going to participate in Occupy Portland--as with most of the participants in cities across the country--are there to voice their legitimate concerns about national issues. A peaceful event is the most effective way for participants to deliver that message.[/B] Updates regarding this or any event impact at public alerts and via Twitter @PublicAlerts. Sincerely, Sam Adams Mayor[/QUOTE] The source link also contains photos of the demonstration.

There's a small Occupy protest going on in Allentown, Pennsylvania on the corner of Seventh and Hamilton streets. I unfortunately didn't have my camera, but they had a mock-up guillotine!

A few photos from the ongoing event for those who won't click the link. [QUOTE][img]http://media.oregonlive.com/oregonian/photo/2011/10/10117817-standard.jpg[/img][IMG]http://media.oregonlive.com/oregonian/photo/2011/10/10117567-standard.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://media.oregonlive.com/oregonian/photo/2011/10/10117566-standard.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://media.oregonlive.com/oregonian/photo/2011/10/10117562-standard.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE] Also, our best local news site, Oregon Live, seems very supportive of the Occupy _____ events. I'm real proud of my state sometimes.

[QUOTE=drunkenmoose;32659691]For the one time in my life I actually feel passionate about an issue and can participate, I'm not able to go. I was planning on taking our commuter rail due to traffic and lack of parking, but it got shut down for total non-suspicious reasons. We have a huge turnout in Portland, Oregon that I missed because of that. At least our Mayor isn't totally against it and is at least passively okay with it. [url]http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/10/occupy_portland_mayor_sam_adam.html[/url] The source link also contains photos of the demonstration.[/QUOTE] Sam Adams. In case some of you missed that day in American History: [quote]Samuel Adams is a controversial figure in American history. Accounts written in the 19th century praised him as someone who had been steering his fellow colonists towards independence long before the outbreak of the Revolutionary War.[/quote] I find this coincidence amusing.

V for Vendetta is a good comic.

ugh the Conservative talk show hosts my mom listens to. One called the occupiers losers who should "be like Steve Jobs and make some money!" by "finding what people want, and selling it for cheaper!" then they'd "make a whole lot of money" :v: He was defending the poor innocent Wall Street people :downs: While [B]Rush Limbaugh[/B] said they are a committee to reelect Obama, and that the media is paying way to much attention to them and too much coverage, saying the media has labeled them as a bigger deal than the tea party :downs: He also says there aren't many there :v: I don't want to live on this planet anymore :suicide:

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;32660000]V for Vendetta is a good comic.[/QUOTE] Irony is Anon only adopted V for their look because of the movie which even the creator thought didn't give the comics message.