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[QUOTE=acds;32539168]Work against the flow (the "man", the "machine", the system, or whatever people want to call it) and you'll just damage yourself.[/QUOTE] You are wrong. One cog stops turning, and the whole thing fails.

[QUOTE=Kung Fu Jew;32545726]You are wrong. One cog stops turning, and the whole thing fails.[/QUOTE] Apart from all the other cogs that depend on each other, only failing once all of them do.

[b]It also looks like October 5th might see the protester's headcount increase by 30,000+. [/b] [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/29/nyc-transit-union-joins-o_n_987156.html[/url] [release]New York City labor unions are preparing to back the unwieldy grassroots band occupying a park in Lower Manhattan, in a move that could mark a significant shift in the tenor of the anti-corporate Occupy Wall Street protests and send thousands more people into the streets. The Transit Workers Union Local 100's executive committee, which oversees the organization of subway and bus workers, voted unanimously Wednesday night to support the protesters. The union claims 38,000 members. A union-backed organizing coalition, which orchestrated a large May 12 march on Wall Street before the protests, is planning a rally on Oct. 5 in explicit support. And SEIU 32BJ, which represents doormen, security guards and maintenance workers, is using its Oct. 12 rally to express solidarity with the Zuccotti Park protesters. "The call went out over a month ago, before actually the occupancy of Wall Street took place," said 32BJ spokesman Kwame Patterson. Now, he added, "we're all coming under one cause, even though we have our different initiatives." The protests found their genesis not in any of the established New York social action groups but with a call put out by a Canadian magazine. While other major unions beyond the TWU have yet to officially endorse Occupy Wall Street, more backing could come as early as this week. Both the New York Metro Area Postal Union and SEIU 1199 are considering such moves. Jackie DiSalvo, an Occupy Wall Street organizer, says a series of public actions aimed at expressing support for labor -- from disrupting a Sotheby's auction on Sept. 22 to attending a postal workers' rally on Tuesday -- have convinced unions that the two groups' struggles are one. "Labor is up against the wall and they're begging us to help them," said DiSalvo, a retired professor at Baruch College in her late 60s who has emerged as a driving force in the effort to link up labor and the protests. DiSalvo is herself a member of the Professional Staff Congress, which represents teachers at the City University of New York. Recent anti-labor actions like Scott Walker's in Wisconsin "really shocked the unions and moved them into militant action," DiSalvo said, and the inflammatory video of a NYPD deputy inspector pepper-spraying several protesters on Saturday also generated union sympathy. "There's a lot of good feeling. They've made a lot of friends," said Chuck Zlatkin of the postal union. When a band of about 100 protesters showed up at a postal workers' rally featuring Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) on Tuesday, complete with purple hair and big drums, "they went a long way towards touching people and making connections," Zlatkin observed. If unions move to support the protests in a major way, that could mean thousands more people marching in Lower Manhattan. Thus far the protesters have not managed to come near the 10,000 or so who attended the unrelated May 12 march on Wall Street. The Strong Economy for All Coalition, which receives support from the United Federation of Teachers, the Working Families Party, plus SEIU 32BJ and 1199, previously helped put together that demonstration. Now they will be rallying for the grassroots group. "Their fight is our fight," director Michael Kink said. "They've chosen the right targets. We also want to see a society where folks other than the top 1 percent have a chance to say how things go." Asked if the union support could dilute the message of the Occupy Wall Street protesters -- which has itself been dismissed as incoherent -- organizer DiSalvo said the rag tag group's stance would remain unchanged. "Occupy Wall Street will not negotiate watering down its own message," she said, union support or not.[/release] Also, would people be interested in a Capitalism a Love Story stream tonight? I think its a very important movie and illustrates the reasons for the protest; the struggles american families are having and what brought about much of these protests. any way, click agree if your interested and we'll get it going about 8.

[url]http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=facebook+occupy+wallstreet+censorship&pbx=1&oq=facebook+occupy+wallstreet+censorship&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=269l7832l0l7875l47l32l3l0l0l0l448l6281l0.10.14.3.1l31l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=a271f0478f23d1e9&biw=1280&bih=933[/url] The top 3 results for "facebook occupy wallstreet censorship" have been taken down indefinitely by Google.

I feel fine with dissent, not that anon is threatening the NYPD last time they released a witness protection list. Unless that was lulzsec.

[url]http://ampedstatus.org/twittercensorship-blocks-occupywallstreet-from-top-trending-topic-twice/[/url] #TwitterCensorship Blocks #OccupyWallStreet from Top Trending Topic Twice

[QUOTE=Kung Fu Jew;32546307][url]http://ampedstatus.org/twittercensorship-blocks-occupywallstreet-from-top-trending-topic-twice/[/url] #TwitterCensorship Blocks #OccupyWallStreet from Top Trending Topic Twice[/QUOTE] Damn this is ridiculous (and makes it obvious where they stand on this.)

Any more footage of police beatdowns? I want to see some action. Seriously though, the vantage point of the so-called "brutality" is skewed and biased. We need to hear both sides of the story.

I started Capitalism a Love story on my own, PM me if your interested, I don't mind restarting it.

[QUOTE=SlaughterDog;32544925]I don't tend to follow current events, but just today I heard about Occupy Wall Street, where people are protesting in New York. At first this made me thrilled that finally people aren't standing up for social injustices made by the government, corporations, and the rich. So what's their plan of action? Naturally it should be on one of the sites for the protest. I found a bit about what they're doing: [url]https://occupywallst.org/[/url] [url]http://www.adbusters.org/campaigns/occupywallstreet[/url] Alright, so there's a bunch of people protesting. I knew that. That didn't answer my questions. What specific things are these people protesting against, and how do they propose they fix them? Surely it'd be at the top of the news articles. Or not. [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/29/occupy-wall-street_n_987439.html[/url]I figured it had to do with the state of the economy. What's the plan for change? This article explains their plans to stay as long as they can, until "change" is made, in the face of cold and wet weather. What kind of change? I'm losing faith in the potential of this movement. What the hell do they want? This isn't a collective sharing the same goals, it's and excuse to get out there and jarate and moan and pretend to be activists with no real plan for getting things done. [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/25/nyregion/protesters-are-gunning-for-wall-street-with-faulty-aim.html[/url] That's it then, I didn't want to believe the media sources would have the most accurate accounts of what's going on -- maybe they do, maybe they don't -- but is there anyone who can enlighten me to anyone out there with real plans of action? Oh, one more thing, a little list of demands. [url]https://occupywallst.org/article/a-message-from-occupied-wall-street-day-five/[/url] I agree. Let's figure out how to get this done.[/QUOTE] [url]https://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-please-help-editadd-so-th/[/url]

[QUOTE=SnowCanary;32546734]Any more footage of police beatdowns? I want to see some action. Seriously though, the vantage point of the so-called "brutality" is skewed and biased. We need to hear both sides of the story.[/QUOTE] What do you believe the other side of that pepper-spray story could possibly be? What world do you need to live in to think that a woman literally just standing in the protest (it's quite clear in the video), could have [B]any reason[/B] to be pepper-sprayed?

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32547008]What do you believe the other side of that pepper-spray story could possibly be? What world do you need to live in to think that a woman literally just standing in the protest (it's quite clear in the video), could have [B]any reason[/B] to be pepper-sprayed?[/QUOTE] You can't be certain about what was happening before filming started.

[QUOTE=SnowCanary;32547193]You can't be certain about what was happening before filming started.[/QUOTE] not true, theres full footage from before the women was pepper sprayed.

[QUOTE=SnowCanary;32547193]You can't be certain about what was happening before filming started.[/QUOTE] The video literally sits on the woman standing there for 20 or so seconds, nothing was going on prior to it.

[QUOTE=rundevil;32546808]I started Capitalism a Love story on my own, PM me if your interested, I don't mind restarting it.[/QUOTE] Michael Moore's films are hilarious. He should team up with Sam Raimi and Simon Pegg for his next one...

[QUOTE=Ridge;32547299]Michael Moore's films are hilarious. He should team up with Sam Raimi and Simon Pegg for his next one...[/QUOTE] Unless your speaking of canadian bacon, surely you jest.

[QUOTE=rundevil;32547402]Unless your speaking of canadian bacon, surely you jest.[/QUOTE] Not at all. His selective editing and outright lies are better designed for Leno's Jaywalking skit than anything resembling a factual documentary.

I fear the 'mob mentality' will come in effect with these increasing numbers. Especially with the post several posts above. People joining the protest without having the slightest idea what they're protesting for. They just want to be involved, either having the chance to yell without retribution (If the cops don't do anything back) or a chance to start a fire that, in a situation like this, will grow into a hellstorm. I'm a bit worried.

[QUOTE=Ridge;32547416]Not at all. His selective editing and outright lies are better designed for Leno's Jaywalking skit than anything resembling a factual documentary.[/QUOTE] I don't know what your talking about; I've looked into what you speak of and most of it is utter shit and nonsense. could you give me real examples of what you peak of? [editline]29th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Vaught;32547467]I fear the 'mob mentality' will come in effect with these increasing numbers. Especially with the post several posts above. People joining the protest without having the slightest idea what they're protesting for. They just want to be involved, either having the chance to yell without retribution (If the cops don't do anything back) or a chance to start a fire that, in a situation like this, will grow into a hellstorm. I'm a bit worried.[/QUOTE] Maybe some of these protestors are misguided. Maybe they are rallying behind 100 causes and therefor its be come a befuddled mess. Maybe it will turn needlessly destructive. But I dont think its a bad thing. America's history is speckled with protest moments that changed things. The Boston massacre, The Haymarket riots, The womens sufferage movement, the temperance movement, the Civil Rights movement, the 1960s. I dont think any of these kids expect to protest and then see immediate results, but the point is that people are pissed, and now people are talking about it more. In the end it won't bring about the end of capitalism but it'll probably help forward thinking on a few of the many things that are wrong.

[QUOTE=Vaught;32547467]I fear the 'mob mentality' will come in effect with these increasing numbers. Especially with the post several posts above. People joining the protest without having the slightest idea what they're protesting for. They just want to be involved, either having the chance to yell without retribution (If the cops don't do anything back) or a chance to start a fire that, in a situation like this, will grow into a hellstorm. I'm a bit worried.[/QUOTE] I dunno, that'd be biting on London's protest style

Hey all, have some photo's: [IMG]http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/298205_227786560613271_100001457865597_674703_2080420903_n.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/313885_246533632059866_181577995222097_700160_1486731803_n.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/317877_246533648726531_181577995222097_700161_767357626_n.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/300845_246533678726528_181577995222097_700162_2120434672_n.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/315374_246533715393191_181577995222097_700163_1902660181_n.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311355_246533725393190_181577995222097_700164_1070520400_n.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/310289_246533588726537_181577995222097_700159_1975736424_n.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/296815_291002154259012_100000476894230_1207633_695227794_n.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311345_10150326993475256_558005255_7862397_1605318348_n.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/307900_181666371908205_131489463592563_385984_1076000190_n.jpg[/IMG] #Occupy Phoenix has it's own little spinoff protest now a bit south called #Occupy Tucson, if you're a fellow Arizonan, pick your poison!

[QUOTE=rundevil;32547533]I don't know what your talking about; I've looked into what you speak of and most of it is utter shit and nonsense. could you give me real examples of what you peak of? [editline]29th September 2011[/editline] Maybe some of these protestors are misguided. Maybe they are rallying behind 100 causes and therefor its be come a befuddled mess. Maybe it will turn needlessly destructive. But I dont think its a bad thing. America's history is speckled with protest moments that changed things. The Boston massacre, The Haymarket riots, The womens sufferage movement, the temperance movement, the Civil Rights movement, the 1960s. I dont think any of these kids expect to protest and then see immediate results, but the point is that people are pissed, and now people are talking about it more. In the end it won't bring about the end of capitalism but it'll probably help forward thinking on a few of the many things that are wrong.[/QUOTE] What I mean is that some people might join just to cause problems. A lot of problems. The kind of problems that may pull up another Kent State. I don't know, I'm thinking too hard about this. But at the same time, I'm genuinely worried that this protest will turn into something worse. The people have the right idea to speak their mind. But there are those who would speak with sharper, less friendly means.

I wish I was out there trying to do something. Our generation is too lazy to go out and protest when we think something is fucked! Good for all those people out there, I agree with them. The greed of corporate executives makes my fucking blood boil

I do like the cause of this, although currently I am not sure of what will be accomplished and such. I'm also a bit worried, however. This whole situation seems like a very unstable powder keg inside a ring of fire. Edit: and I really wish I could join. However, the closest city where this is happening is ~3 hours away, if I could even drive.

[QUOTE=ewitwins;32547726]Hey all, have some photo's: [b]PHOTOS[/b] #Occupy Phoenix has it's own little spinoff protest now a bit south called #Occupy Tucson, if you're a fellow Arizonan, pick your poison![/QUOTE] The airlines treat they're pilots horribly in many cases, it's really sad. [editline]29th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Lick;32547786]I wish I was out there trying to do something. Our generation is too lazy to go out and protest when we think something is fucked! Good for all those people out there, I agree with them. The greed of corporate executives makes my fucking blood boil[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Repulsion;32547788]I do like the cause of this, although currently I am not sure of what will be accomplished and such. I'm also a bit worried, however. This whole situation seems like a very unstable powder keg inside a ring of fire. Edit: and I really wish I could join. However, the closest city where this is happening is ~3 hours away, if I could even drive.[/QUOTE] What area do you live in? theres plenty of smaller protests popping up al over, and if theres not one near bye; start you own then! anyone can can raise they're voice. Once one person does, many will follow.

[QUOTE=SnowCanary;32546734]Any more footage of police beatdowns? I want to see some action. Seriously though, the vantage point of the so-called "brutality" is skewed and biased. We need to hear both sides of the story.[/QUOTE] They've already "investigated" and claimed that the officers were in their rights. Fast track investigations happen all the time. It's naive to think that the other side always has good intentions, even if you are trying to be fair.

I wonder what would happen if the police brutality got any worse.

occupy the financial district of Lawrenceville, Georgia!

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