The #OccupyWallStreet Megathread - Post all new updates here - Polidicks

Says that on the page.

[QUOTE=rundevil;32737943][url]http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=281139538577206[/url] uhhhh....[/QUOTE] And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why I don't store money in the bank

[QUOTE=Medevilae;32738083]Better advice: join a credit union.[/QUOTE] Says it on their page: [quote]• Open an account with a Credit Union • Transfer your funds to the new account on or before 11/05 • Follow your bank's procedures to close your account To find a credit union near you: [url]http://www.findacreditunion.com/[/url][/quote]

[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;32737808]Let's play some Bob Dylan, motherfucker. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vou4qUu5YY[/media][/QUOTE] Huh, I posted that earlier in the thread and nobody batted a fucking eye.

[QUOTE=Medevilae;32737657]'Fixing things' doesn't have to be coupled with upheaval.[/QUOTE] It does when the problems are systemic. [quote]... ludicrously simplistic people unaware of the implications of the travesties they preach as the means to the end the protest seeks so desperately.[/quote] Wish I could be cool like you and be verbose to make myself appear smart

I brought this up in my US History class today because it was relevant to the topic, and this kid in the front kept sayin "oh, yea. Yea, i know" while I was talking, and when I was done explaining (I only mentioned the Wall Street part, not the Anon part) He went on to explain how he was part of anonymous and was a part of the protesting. Bonus: He also later told the class how he has an iphone 4S and showed us his iphone 4. He said he works for apple.

[QUOTE=Medevilae;32738610]Do you even have views on this or do you actually try to be that vague? What do you believe is wrong with the government?[/QUOTE] please sir explain in large detail why with great prejudice do you find certain modusi in these here's united states of america's governing institution objectionable to the intellectual hemispheres of your circumstancing brain.

[QUOTE=Medevilae;32738610]Do you even have views on this or do you actually try to be that vague? What do you believe is wrong with the government?[/QUOTE] It is virtually an oligarchy run by corporate lobbying, with only two political parties that are quite similar in policy who are too busy pinning failures on each other and claiming victories for themselves to actually do anything. Your first past the post voting system is terrible and should be replaced, and almost half of your population doesn't vote. Your government is now mandating that citizens purchase health insurance, when Americans pay more money than anyone else in the world for healthcare, and get far less results, because of the insurance structure. The US has created Islamist terrorism through intervening in the Middle East of the last sixty years, and then used that as a cause to erode the freedoms which made America the best state for a long time. There's hundreds upon hundreds of problems, and I don't see how fixing them isn't an upheaval.

[QUOTE=thisispain;32738633]please sir explain in large detail why with great prejudice do you find certain modusi in these here's united states of america's governing institution objectionable to the intellectual hemispheres of your circumstancing brain.[/QUOTE] is that what you learned in med school?

From what I'm reading, OccupyWallStreet went in without a clear view of what they wanted - only a vague sense that something's wrong. And throughout the course of their time together they've collectively figured out what's wrong with the country, and brought that in as their list of demands. Is that right? If so, that's fuckin' beautiful.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;32738109]And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why I don't store money in the bank[/QUOTE] huh and people say banks are where you store your money well not in america

[QUOTE=Maloof?;32738729]From what I'm reading, OccupyWallStreet went in without a clear view of what they wanted - only a vague sense that something's wrong. And throughout the course of their time together they've collectively figured out what's wrong with the country, and brought that in as their list of demands. Is that right? If so, that's fuckin' beautiful.[/QUOTE] Just in case people haven't seen this yet: [url]http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-please-help-editadd-so-th/[/url]

[QUOTE=Maloof?;32738729]From what I'm reading, OccupyWallStreet went in without a clear view of what they wanted - only a vague sense that something's wrong. And throughout the course of their time together they've collectively figured out what's wrong with the country, and brought that in as their list of demands. Is that right? If so, that's fuckin' beautiful.[/QUOTE] No, they went in with a general idea of what was wrong and since then they have refined and added to it. I think that would be accurate.

[QUOTE=Medevilae;32738878]If anything, government regulates the companies to the point where it's much harder for them to create jobs- lack of jobs being one of the causes of the Occupy protests. The Electoral College system is just as good as popular vote, because they vote as representatives what the popular vote for their state is. However it is unnecessary, and [URL="http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html#whyelectoralcollege"]attempts have been made[/URL] to amend the Constitution to reform or eliminate it (over 700 to be precise) but have failed to receive the majority needed to do so. 60% of voters turned out in 2008, but voting is not compulsory. Islamist extremists (and extremists from any religion for that matter) have existed long before the US entered the Middle East. Reform is not equal to upheaval. Keep in mind the context: upheaval was being used to describe a revolution.[/QUOTE] But would Islamic extremist be on such a hell-bent mission to fuck up the Western World if the Western World hadn't been all-up-in-that to the extent that we have been? Nup

[QUOTE=Medevilae;32738878] Islamist extremists (and extremists from any religion for that matter) have existed long before the US entered the Middle East. [/QUOTE] Yes, but modern extremism is a result of failed American foreign policy.

[QUOTE=Soviet Bread;32738925]Yes, but modern extremism is a result of failed American foreign policy.[/QUOTE] I hate the term 'Foregin Policy'. I think, personally, that the ideal 'foregin policy' is "don't fuck with other countries shit". Can we try this please

[QUOTE=Maloof?;32738944]I hate the term 'Foregin Policy'. I think, personally, that the ideal 'foregin policy' is "don't fuck with other countries shit". Can we try this please[/QUOTE] welp you might want to talk to Monroe about that. or FDR

[QUOTE=Medevilae;32738878]If anything, government regulates the companies to the point where it's much harder for them to create jobs- lack of jobs being one of the causes of the Occupy protests. The Electoral College system is just as good as popular vote, because they vote as representatives what the popular vote for their state is. However it is unnecessary, and [URL="http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html#whyelectoralcollege"]attempts have been made[/URL] to amend the Constitution to reform or eliminate it (over 700 to be precise) but have failed to receive the majority needed to do so. 60% of voters turned out in 2008, but voting is not compulsory. Islamist extremists (and extremists from any religion for that matter) have existed long before the US entered the Middle East. Reform is not equal to upheaval. Keep in mind the context: upheaval was being used to describe a revolution.[/QUOTE] Haha thats adorable. The government has stern regulations against most businesses but the big ones that pull the strings are still given absolute power and free reign. The electoral college system is corurption waiting to happen, and the fact that it exists is a testament to what a sham the idea of "American democracy" really is. We tell them who we like, but they don't have to choose them. Modern extremism is, as Soviet Bread said, a result of the spectacular failure of American foreign policy which has abused the Middle Easterners into becoming guerrilla fighters. Reform is only possible [b]through[/b] upheaval. The entire American system is corrupt to the core and no amount of feigned democracy is going to change that.

[QUOTE=Medevilae;32738947]And what would you consider the beginning of that? Involvement with Israel?[/QUOTE] Yes, including involvement in the gulf region.

[QUOTE=Medevilae;32739050]I understand where you're coming from with that opinion, even though I disagree with it. Also where are you from? (flagdog is down)[/QUOTE] America (shame)

[QUOTE=Rubs10;32738778]Just in case people haven't seen this yet: [url]http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-please-help-editadd-so-th/[/url][/QUOTE] So you can basically add your own demands? Someone should add a repeal of the Kelo v. City of New London Supreme Court decision in there as well. That decision gave private corporations the ability to seize people's homes under eminent domain (essentially the rich stealing from teh poor) [url]http://civilliberty.about.com/od/freetradeopenmarkets/p/kelovlondon.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Medevilae;32738610]Do you even have views on this or do you actually try to be that vague? What do you believe is wrong with the government?[/QUOTE] I could rant your ear off on that subject. The political system alone I have a problem with. The two party system is a problem when you get down to it. Remember the big debt deal over the summer? People were so unwilling to compromise and find a solution that the debt deal took up so much of their time that they completely missed on other things they needed to get to, [URL="http://www.nationaljournal.com/unfinished-business-congress-leaving-mess-at-faa-20110802"]like the FAA[/URL]. Entire families went without income because of the incompetence of our congressmen. This wouldn't have happened if there were multiple parties of equal strength. Then they would be FORCED to compromise since none of them would have a majority to fall back onto/gamble for.

[QUOTE=Hidole555;32739443]I could rant your ear off on that subject. The political system alone I have a problem with. The two party system is a problem when you get down to it. Remember the big debt deal over the summer? People were so unwilling to compromise and find a solution that the debt deal took up so much of their time that they completely missed on other things they needed to get to, [URL="http://www.nationaljournal.com/unfinished-business-congress-leaving-mess-at-faa-20110802"]like the FAA[/URL]. Entire families went without income because of the incompetence of our congressmen. This wouldn't have happened if there were multiple parties of equal strength. Then they would be FORCED to compromise since none of them would have a majority to fall back onto/gamble for.[/QUOTE] They could be forced to compromise, or they could just bicker like old ladies like our current elected officials are so that nothing gets done anyway.

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32739226]So you can basically add your own demands? Someone should add a repeal of the Kelo v. City of New London Supreme Court decision in there as well. That decision gave private corporations the ability to seize people's homes under eminent domain (essentially the rich stealing from teh poor) [url]http://civilliberty.about.com/od/freetradeopenmarkets/p/kelovlondon.htm[/url][/QUOTE] Holy shit I mean what the fuck [B]HOW DOES THIS EXIST.[/B]

[QUOTE=Rubs10;32738778]Just in case people haven't seen this yet: [url]http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-please-help-editadd-so-th/[/url][/QUOTE] I kinda want to add "We must kill the batman" to that list.

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;32733487]Has anyone ever budged with their point of view on the internet? If so, then i've certainly never seen it.[/QUOTE] Mine have jumped around quite a bit since this all started. At first I was against them, they seemed like a bunch of nobodies picking fights with the cops. I ignored this thread for the longest time because of that. But as it didn't go away, I decided to read it and find out what was going on. After that I could agree with their cause. But intentions are good, there are still many people there with views whom I don't support, and I don't really like them. As a whole, I'd say the protests are okay, but regardless I'm not optimistic about the outcome.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32726115][url]http://silverunderground.com/2011/10/occupysf-the-day-of-the-barricades/[/url] [release]At 2:00 am Thursday morning 80 officers wearing riot helmets and carrying batons raided the encampment anyway. Police formed a perimeter separating the protesters from their supplies as the Department of Public Works seized nine truckloads of tents, communications equipment, medical supplies, food and other donations. About fifty protesters responded with peaceful civil disobedience, standing in front of the trucks, and forming a human chain to impede them from stealing their supplies. Police responded by cracking skulls, which protesters say was excessive force. You be the judge. The first blow from the police occurs one minute in.[/release] Click the link to see the video it refers to [release]Only one arrest was made, but at least three protesters sustained injuries including a 17 year old girl who was punched and thrown to the ground simply for standing too close. One officer reportedly told another activist, “I can’t wait to beat your face in.”[/release] Despicable[/QUOTE] That video in your link makes me sick. That fucking pig attack and detained the guy that did nothing except say "Fuck you". This is why I can't wait to go to NYC and help my fellow man, camera in hand.

Even Fox News agrees, the Wall Street protests are good shit: [img]http://i.imgur.com/Ywqga.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32740928]Even Fox News agrees, the Wall Street protests are good shit: [img]http://i.imgur.com/Ywqga.png[/img][/QUOTE] 26%, how? oh yeah. Fox [editline]12th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Medevilae;32737657]'Fixing things' doesn't have to be coupled with upheaval.[/QUOTE] have you ever fixed something while it was on?

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32740928]Even Fox News agrees, the Wall Street protests are good shit: [img]http://i.imgur.com/Ywqga.png[/img][/QUOTE] A friend of mine linked me to that poll, according to him Anonymous (or at least 4Chan) bombed that poll with "yes" votes. (I also voted yes) Either way I predict Fox will either dismiss or alter the results should they ever report on it.