The #OccupyWallStreet Megathread - Post all new updates here - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32555802]You don't lose your money that's in a bank just because a bank's building gets destroyed[/QUOTE] Yeah but we don't really want ot be damaging their assets considering their assets are essentially made up of our money. To be honest though I'm not entirely sure what people are protesting at wall street for despite having read a few articles on it, could anyone fill me in?

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32555819]Yeah but we don't really want ot be damaging their assets considering their assets are essentially made up of our money. To be honest though I'm not entirely sure what people are protesting at wall street for despite having read a few articles on it, could anyone fill me in?[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.businessinsider.com/finally-specific-demands-from-occupy-wall-street-2011-9?op=1]Here are some[/url] This isn't official, I'm still trying to find an official one. Probably the best way to find out more about it is just to [url=http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet]read threads here[/url].

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32555692]A bank getting razed would hurt the average people as well as the bankers.[/QUOTE] The average people are already hurt. Things are going to get a lot worse before they get any better anyway.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/xTWsO.jpg[/img] :v:

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32555819]Yeah but we don't really want ot be damaging their assets considering their assets are essentially made up of our money. To be honest though I'm not entirely sure what people are protesting at wall street for despite having read a few articles on it, could anyone fill me in?[/QUOTE] The protest are more a way for people to unite. To send a message that people aren't alone; people are mad and sick of all the bullshit. It's a way for people who would usually never speak, people who have many differences to unite and say: we're sick of the way the top 1% has ruined out country. We're sick of bankers, career politicians. Corporations running this country like a business. America needs change, we have 99% of the vote. People have been said that they thing it's silly a bunch of privileged white people with their iPhones and gadgets are protesting, but I disagree I think it says a lot. it's not just the poor; it's middle class people too who live a comfortable life and can afford luxuries yet are still rising up and saying hey, america is nowhere near where it should be. I don't want to spend my life in debt.

[QUOTE=rundevil;32555905]The protest are more a way for people to unite. To send a message that people aren't alone; people are mad and sick of all the bullshit. It's a way for people who would usually never speak, people who have many differences to unite and say: we're sick of the way the top 1% has ruined out country. We're sick of bankers, career politicians. Corporations running this country like a business. America needs change, we have 99% of the vote.[/QUOTE] Right now, Occupy Wall Street's message is pretty much just "we're fed the fuck up". And really, a lot of protests start out with something basic like that. Once everyone is together people can start to agree on some more concrete goals.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32555845][url=http://www.businessinsider.com/finally-specific-demands-from-occupy-wall-street-2011-9?op=1]Here are some[/url] This isn't official, I'm still trying to find an official one. Probably the best way to find out more about it is just to [url=http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet]read threads here[/url].[/QUOTE] Some of those seem like fair demands while some of them don't like the sick leave one and the debt forgiveness (which would just cause banks to make massive loses) Also the person telling everyone take their money out of banks is a moron, they'll cause a second recession doing that.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32555982]Also the person telling everyone take their money out of banks is a moron, they'll cause a second recession doing that.[/QUOTE] No one said to take money out of the banks, I said it'd be a good idea if it weren't for economic factors in place, and god dammit I'm tired of hearing Recession. Are we still in the first recession, or in a second one? Who gives a fuck I'm deeming it the Second Depression.

[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;32557118]No one said to take money out of the banks, I said it'd be a good idea if it weren't for economic factors in place, and god dammit I'm tired of hearing Recession. Are we still in the first recession, or in a second one? Who gives a fuck I'm deeming it the Second Depression.[/QUOTE] No I'm talking about the ones on reddit.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32557130]No I'm talking about the ones on reddit.[/QUOTE] Alright then I feel dumb. My Second Depression sentiment still stands though.

Hopefully the smaller protests can get local media attention.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32555982]Some of those seem like fair demands while some of them don't like the sick leave one and the debt forgiveness (which would just cause banks to make massive loses) Also the person telling everyone take their money out of banks is a moron, they'll cause a second recession doing that.[/QUOTE] When you have so many in debt that cannot afford it (for what is now a necessary education), you have to do something. Why was the government able to bail out the banks but not the students who could be innovating or doing something great if they weren't in such a pit?

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32557522]When you have so many in debt that cannot afford it (for what is now a necessary education), you have to do something. Why was the government able to bail out the banks but not the students who could be innovating or doing something great if they weren't in such a pit?[/QUOTE] That and the cunts went bankrupt anyway so our government without public support threw money down a hole.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32557522]When you have so many in debt that cannot afford it (for what is now a necessary education), you have to do something. Why was the government able to bail out the banks but not the students who could be innovating or doing something great if they weren't in such a pit?[/QUOTE] Students shouldn't have to pay for education fullstop to be honest, but the reason I'm not to fond of debt forgiveness is the possibility of people taking out loans and then just not bothering to pay it back and causing banks to make loses (which isn't very good for the economy)

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32557602]Students shouldn't have to pay for education fullstop to be honest, but the reason I'm not to fond of debt forgiveness is the possibility of people taking out loans and then just not bothering to pay it back and causing banks to make loses (which isn't very good for the economy)[/QUOTE] The "possibility" of someone [I]maybe[/I] taking advantage of debt forgiveness pales in comparison to the benefits of it. [editline]30th September 2011[/editline] Also, some news: [release][B]AFL-CIO's Trumka Hails "Occupy Wall Street," as Key Unions Begin to Endorse Protests[/B] Declaring that "Wall Street's out of control," AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka has embraced street protests such as the "Occupy Wall Street" demonstrations -- and others like them that are planned for cities across the country. Asked about the ongoing mass protest in New York's financial district, which has begun to gain support from major unions, Trumka said Friday morning: "I think it's a tactic and a valid tactic to call attention to a problem. Wall Street is out of control. We have three imbalances in this country -- the imbalance between imports and exports, the imbalance between employer power and working power, and the imbalance between the real economy and the financial economy. We need to bring back balance to the financial economy, and calling attention to it and peacefully protesting is a very legitimate way of doing it." Hailing the power of street protests to shift the dialogue, Trumka said, "I think being in the streets and calling attention to issues is sometimes the only recourse you have because, God only knows, you can go to the Hill, and you can talk to a lot of people and see nothing ever happen..." Organized largely by young people and initially neglected by much of the media and major political players, the "Occupy Wall Street" protest has begun to attract global attention, as prominent figures such as filmmaker Michael Moore and Dr. Cornel West have joined the hundreds of demonstrators who have maintained a steady presence since thousands of anti-corporate activists massed on September 17. Trumka's remarks came as key union locals began to endorse the "Occupy Wall Street" protests, which have gained increasing attention over the past two weeks. Transport Workers Union Local 100, which represents 38,000 New York City transit workers (and 26,000 retirees), endorsed the protests Wednesday, with a statement that read: "The Transport Workers Union Local 100 applauds the courage of the young people on Wall Street who are dramatically demonstrating for what our position has been for some time: the shared sacrifice preached by government officials looks awfully like a one-way street. Workers and ordinary citizens are putting up all the sacrifice, and the financiers who imploded our economy are getting away scot-free, increasing their holdings and bonuses. "Young people face a bleak future with high unemployment, and minimum wage jobs. Public sector workers face Mayors and Governors who demand massive wage and benefits givebacks or face thousands of layoffs. That’s not bargaining. That’s blackmail. "One out of six Americans lives in poverty today, and the richest one percent control more wealth than at any time since the Gilded Age of the 1920’s." Local 100 spokesman Jim Gannon said: "These young folks are out there and they're singing our tune, and they're saying what we've been saying for quite some time that the so-called shared sacrifice is a one way street. Young people face high unemployment, it's very difficult to get jobs and in many ways they're in the same boat as public sector workers are. So we all get together and who knows, this might become a movement." Gannon linked the Wall Street protests of recent weeks with the protests earlier this year in Madison, Wisconsin, where Republican Governor Scott Walker attacked collective-bargaining rights for public employees. "In Madison they were fighting for themselves but they weren't only fighting for themselves. It hit a chord with a lot of people across the country, not just union workers," explained Gannon. "And I think [Occupy Wall Street] is starting to hit a real chord, especially with blue collar workers." Trumka, who marched in Madison in February, sounded a similar theme Friday. "Our international unions are involved, our locals are involved, and you'll see a lot of working people" Trumka said of protests against Wall Street abuses. "You'll see a lot of small business people. You'll see a lot of manufacturing people who actually produce in this country (and) are being stepped on the same way by multinationals in Wall Street." During discussion of unemployment and economic issues at the Brookings Institute, Trumka was asked about the "Occupy Wall Street" protests by Paul Crist, an Americans for Democratic Action board member, who began: "My question actually has to do with the 'Occupy Wall Street' protests that are going on in New York City, and there's been some recent activity where some union locals are kind of becoming involved in that, and i was wondering if you have an opinion on some of the AFL-CIO national member organizations, kind of beginning to take a role in that because i sort of think that that street demonstration activity is sort of forcing dialogue on the issues that you're talking about." "I happen to agree with you," Trumka responded, as he expressed his own faith in the power of street protests. "God only knows, I've done it thousands of times myself, and may do it again." He'll have an opportunity to "do it again" on October 5, when a planned march will show solidarity with protests and the broader struggle to hold Wall Street to account. Many unions -- including the United Federation of Teachers; 32BJ SEIU & 1199 SEIU and Workers United -- are expected to join Transport Workers Union Local 100 members in that march, which has also drawn encouragement from the Working Families Party, Moveon.org, Make the Road New York, the Coalition for the Homeless, the Alliance for Quality Education, Community Voices Heard, United New York and Strong Economy For All[/release] [I]Source: [url]http://www.thenation.com/blog/163737/afl-cios-trumka-hails-occupy-wall-street-protests[/url][/I]

I doubt American government will do anything,they'll just send some cops to beat the shit out of them,which is very sad.

Bah, turns out SA's Occupy was yesterday. Missed it. Wonder how it turned out.

[QUOTE=Pascall;32558273]Bah, turns out SA's Occupy was yesterday. Missed it. Wonder how it turned out.[/QUOTE] I don't understand why they call the other ones "Occupy" if it's just a few hours out of one day of protest. Probably just so people know it's connected to the NYC one.

The fact that they ended at all is a huge disappointment. If this could be happening all across the country, then the government would actually pay attention.

[QUOTE=Kung Fu Jew;32558588]The fact that they ended at all is a huge disappointment. If this could be happening all across the country, then the government would actually pay attention.[/QUOTE] ... it didn't end

Well, I am pretty sure [url=http://www.businessinsider.com/bank-of-america-to-charge-5month-fee-for-debit-card-holders-2011-9]this[/url] is the type of stuff that the protesters despise.

[QUOTE=Ogopogo;32559071]Well, I am pretty sure [url=http://www.businessinsider.com/bank-of-america-to-charge-5month-fee-for-debit-card-holders-2011-9]this[/url] is the type of stuff that the protesters despise.[/QUOTE] Saw that on the news. Bunch of bullshit, having to pay to use your own money. If my bank starts it, I don't expect to be banking with them.

[QUOTE=Ogopogo;32559071]Well, I am pretty sure [url=http://www.businessinsider.com/bank-of-america-to-charge-5month-fee-for-debit-card-holders-2011-9]this[/url] is the type of stuff that the protesters despise.[/QUOTE] What the shit. I already have trouble with my bank limit being $10, I'm not going to pay $5 a month for them to hold my money for me. Fuck that. I'd probably just end up cashing all my checks instead. 5 bux doesn't seem like a lot, but when you make as little as some people, it really sucks.

[QUOTE=Pascall;32559774]What the shit. I already have trouble with my bank limit being $10, I'm not going to pay $5 a month for them to hold my money for me. Fuck that. I'd probably just end up cashing all my checks instead. 5 bux doesn't seem like a lot, but when you make as little as some people, it really sucks.[/QUOTE] Yeah, the kicker is they ease up on those fees, at certain banks anyway, only when you have a certain balance, a relatively high one. It's likely they are doing it so people will rely more on credit, bringing in more profit to banks offering credit services.

[QUOTE=Ogopogo;32559071]Well, I am pretty sure [url=http://www.businessinsider.com/bank-of-america-to-charge-5month-fee-for-debit-card-holders-2011-9]this[/url] is the type of stuff that the protesters despise.[/QUOTE] Wow no wonder people are protesting if the banks are doing shit like that.

is this even on the news yet Is it on BBC.?!

[QUOTE=Pascall;32559774]What the shit. I already have trouble with my bank limit being $10, I'm not going to pay $5 a month for them to hold my money for me. Fuck that. I'd probably just end up cashing all my checks instead. 5 bux doesn't seem like a lot, but when you make as little as some people, it really sucks.[/QUOTE] Speak with your wallet. Go to another bank. Better yet, a credit union.

Someone really need to lay down some laws to prevent banks from fucking with peoples money like that.

Well that's really the point of the entire protest in the first place, I would think.

this haves been going on for like 12 days now