I used to hate this guy but I've really come around to seeing his point of view and I understand the economic decisions he made about Daraprim. Also he's hilarious. It's pretty refreshing to see what would otherwise be a faceless, corporative suit being represented by a meme-loving troll. :v:
[editline]28th September 2016[/editline]
The people who take him 100% seriously and assume he's an evil scumbag probably never read further past the headlines on the Daraprim-debacle. Do your research, people.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51121417]I used to hate this guy but I've really come around to seeing his point of view and I understand the economic decisions he made about Daraprim. Also he's hilarious. It's pretty refreshing to see what would otherwise be a faceless, corporative suit being represented by a meme-loving troll. :v:
[editline]28th September 2016[/editline]
The people who take him 100% seriously and assume he's an evil scumbag probably never read further past the headlines on the Daraprim-debacle. Do your research, people.[/QUOTE]
That guy ted bundy wasn't so bad, sure he killed and raped women, but boy was he hilarious. Remember that meme he posted??? People gotta learn to not be so serious, just enjoy the trolling bro
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;51120152]As far as I know you are right. What he did is still bad because he's exploiting the insurance system and ultimately driving up costs for patients, and the worst part was his complete smugness about the whole affair.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, he was completely smug about it, but he also seems to be self-satirical so it's not all bad.
[QUOTE=Talishmar;51121488]Yeah, he was completely smug about it, but he also seems to be self-satirical so it's not all bad.[/QUOTE]
When you wrap yourself in too many layers of irony, you run the risk of becoming irony itself.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;51121144]Insurance companies refuse to see dips in profits so whenever there is an increase in cost they will respond by increasing rates/deductibles across the board[/QUOTE]
Except... This didn't happen so you have no basis for your argument aside from a very misinformed opinion
The guy isn't really a dick, a lot of you are incredibly misinformed about this drug.
You can get it for free at another source, if you watch some of his one-on-on discussions on YouTube you'd see that there's a lot of misinformation about how things actually worked out.
I'm really amazed how many people act like they knew the entire story and more about the drug industry than somebody who's worked in it for several years.
It's almost like people cling to the drama to make themselves look good for calling him out.
[QUOTE=amute;51121448]That guy ted bundy wasn't so bad, sure he killed and raped women, but boy was he hilarious. Remember that meme he posted??? People gotta learn to not be so serious, just enjoy the trolling bro[/QUOTE]
... yeah, because [I]rape and murder[/I] is totally on the same level as raising the price of a drug, creating competition and valid alternatives that are economically viable, and furthering research towards medicine for the disease itself as a result.
Yyyeeah... Shkreli's the one who's fucked in the head. Mmhm.
[QUOTE=amute;51121448]That guy ted bundy wasn't so bad, sure he killed and raped women, but boy was he hilarious. Remember that meme he posted??? People gotta learn to not be so serious, just enjoy the trolling bro[/QUOTE]
you don't even know about what this whole thing about Martin Shkreli is about, do you
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51121506]TIL making profit equals multiple rape & murder[/QUOTE]
making profit and restricting life saving medication IS murder. Morally speaking, there isn't much difference from these two, and this facilitating to sociopathic behavior is why these guys get away with this.
[editline]28th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51121565]... yeah, because [I]rape and murder[/I] is totally on the same level as raising the price of a drug, creating competition and valid alternatives that are economically viable, and furthering research towards medicine for the disease itself as a result.
Yyyeeah... Shkreli's the one who's fucked in the head. Mmhm.[/QUOTE]
except that never happened lol
[editline]28th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Fourier;51121576]you don't even know about what this whole thing about Martin Shkreli is about, do you[/QUOTE]
I do actually, just because I don't find his antics funny and acknowledge what a horrible scumbag of a person he is doesn't mean I don't.
[QUOTE=amute;51121584]except that never happened lol[/QUOTE]
except it did lol
[url]http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/30/express-scripts-imprimis-to-offer-daraprim-alternative.html[/url]
[url]http://imprimispharma.investorroom.com/2015-10-22-Imprimis-Pharmaceuticals-to-Make-Compounded-and-Customizable-Formulation-of-Pyrimethamine-and-Leucovorin-Available-for-Physicians-to-Prescribe-for-their-Patients-as-an-Alternative-to-Daraprim[/url]
[url]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/express-scripts-will-offer-1-alternative-to-750-daraprim-pill/[/url]
[url]http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkroll/2015/10/23/imiprimis-ceo-on-compounding-a-low-cost-alternative-to-turings-daraprim-for-toxoplasmosis/&refURL=https://www.google.se/&referrer=https://www.google.se/[/url]
[url]https://treato.com/Daraprim,Alternatives/?a=s[/url]
[editline]28th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=amute;51121584]I do actually, just because I don't find his antics funny and acknowledge what a horrible scumbag of a person he is doesn't mean I don't.[/QUOTE]
But you clearly don't though, since you couldn't even do a basic 10-second Google search to find out about the spawn of alternative medication to Daraprim that came as a result of the price hike.
[QUOTE=amute;51121584]making profit and restricting life saving medication IS murder. Morally speaking, there isn't much difference from these two, and this facilitating to sociopathic behavior is why these guys get away with this.
[editline]28th September 2016[/editline]
except that never happened lol
[editline]28th September 2016[/editline]
I do actually, just because I don't find his antics funny and acknowledge what a horrible scumbag of a person he is doesn't mean I don't.[/QUOTE]
yeah you don't, people with no insurance get the drug free. Insurances are forced to pay anyway so no-one loses here?
[QUOTE=amute;51121584]making profit and restricting life saving medication IS murder. Morally speaking, there isn't much difference from these two, and this facilitating to sociopathic behavior is why these guys get away with this.
[editline]28th September 2016[/editline]
except that never happened lol
[editline]28th September 2016[/editline]
I do actually, just because I don't find his antics funny and acknowledge what a horrible scumbag of a person he is doesn't mean I don't.[/QUOTE]
How the fuck is he harming anyone? It doesn't matter what the drug costs to insurance companies as long as people are covered for it, and there's a completely different price for people who aren't covered by insurance.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51121599]except it did lol
[url]http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/30/express-scripts-imprimis-to-offer-daraprim-alternative.html[/url]
[url]http://imprimispharma.investorroom.com/2015-10-22-Imprimis-Pharmaceuticals-to-Make-Compounded-and-Customizable-Formulation-of-Pyrimethamine-and-Leucovorin-Available-for-Physicians-to-Prescribe-for-their-Patients-as-an-Alternative-to-Daraprim[/url]
[url]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/express-scripts-will-offer-1-alternative-to-750-daraprim-pill/[/url]
[url]http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkroll/2015/10/23/imiprimis-ceo-on-compounding-a-low-cost-alternative-to-turings-daraprim-for-toxoplasmosis/&refURL=https://www.google.se/&referrer=https://www.google.se/[/url]
[url]https://treato.com/Daraprim,Alternatives/?a=s[/url]
[editline]28th September 2016[/editline]
But you clearly don't though, since you couldn't even do a basic 10-second Google search to find out about the spawn of alternative medication to Daraprim that came as a result of the price hike.[/QUOTE]
Express Scripts is the only one who came up to develop an alternative, if you know anything about healthcare, trying to inject venture capitalism into it kills people. It has many times before and will continue to. How is this acceptable behaviour? Oh yeah because he does it while using memes.
You have no idea how markets or healthcare works if you think this is a simple product competition
[QUOTE=amute;51121673]Express Scripts is the only one who came up to develop an alternative, if you know anything about healthcare, trying to inject venture capitalism into it kills people. It has many times before and will continue to. How is this acceptable behaviour? Oh yeah because he does it while using memes.[/QUOTE]
You literally said [B]"except that never happened [I]lol[/I]" [/B]to my claim that better alternatives were created as a result of the price hike, and when proven wrong you're now backpedaling. It's acceptable behavior because the outcome was better medication and more research. The fact that Shkreli is a massive memelord just makes [I]him[/I], as a person, funny.
[QUOTE=amute;51121673]You have no idea how markets or healthcare works if you think this is a simple product competition[/QUOTE]
[I]The grandest of ironies.[/I]
[QUOTE=amute;51121673]Express Scripts is the only one who came up to develop an alternative, if you know anything about healthcare, trying to inject venture capitalism into it kills people. It has many times before and will continue to. How is this acceptable behaviour? Oh yeah because he does it while using memes.
You have no idea how markets or healthcare works if you think this is a simple product competition[/QUOTE]
Btw, your whole american healthcare thing is fucked up, Martin is just exposing it. Lots of your drugs are so fucking expensive it's not even funny. Even in Mexico you have cheaper drugs which come from America. You better just die if you got some lethal disease which can be cured, because debt will kill you slowly off.
And there is [I]nothing[/I] you can do about it.
So this is why I like Martin, even if he is just evil fuck, he is still doing favor you all American people be exposing (willingly or non-willingly) how deeply corrupted medical industry is.
[QUOTE=amute;51121388]
They did the exact same thing with the EpiPen. Want to tell me that's uncommon?[/QUOTE]
1. Martin had nothing to do with this
2. As i already said, this is way more of a problem than anything Martin did, as it actually impacted the end users paying for them
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51121812]If you wanna hate Martin, he is a Trump supporter
but dont crucify him for the crimes of Big Pharma & US Congress alliance. He is just a small player in there.[/QUOTE]
:speechless:
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51121812]If you wanna hate Martin, he is a Trump supporter
but dont crucify him for the crimes of Big Pharma & US Congress alliance. He is just a small player in there.[/QUOTE]
Oh shit he's a Trump supporter? I love him even more now!
So he knows he's an asshole, knows people want to punch him, so he's trying to capitalize on that as well?
Holy shit this guy is the biggest prick in history. Someone crush his face with a giant medal shaped like a dick.
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51120109]The dude willing to take a punch a friend. He might be a dick but I doubt he is 100 percent dick.[/QUOTE]
With how rich he is he might as well have given them some of his own cash. Instead he found a way to make someone else pay, and make him look better while doing it.
[QUOTE=elowin;51123453]With how rich he is he might as well have given them some of his own cash. Instead he found a way to make someone else pay, and make him look better while doing it.[/QUOTE]
guess all other charity auctions are the same then eh?
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;51123345]So he knows he's an asshole, knows people want to punch him, so he's trying to capitalize on that as well?
Holy shit this guy is the biggest prick in history. Someone crush his face with a giant medal shaped like a dick.[/QUOTE]
They should brand him with a little penis like in jackass.
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;51123345]So he knows he's an asshole, knows people want to punch him, so he's trying to capitalize on that as well?
Holy shit this guy is the biggest prick in history. Someone crush his face with a giant medal shaped like a dick.[/QUOTE]
Capitalize on it and then give all the capital to charity, yes?
Dudes you re wrong
He s not 100% dick
He s 1000% dick and this move reduces his dickinage by 1% therefore making him 999% dick
Conclusion: he s still a huge dick.
He's got the money, why the hell doesn't he just front it himself? At least he could have said "Whatever the highest bid is I will donate an equal amount to go with it", which is still pretty douchey since that's pretty much saying "I'm willing to match the price of what people who don't know my friend value his life at". I mean for fuck sake, you've got more money than you know what to do with and you can't be bothered to give it to the family of someone you call a friend?
What a schmuck.
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;51121336]Thats a rather large exaggeration, i dont think everyones insurance has gone up because one uncommonly used drug has gone up in price. Your insurance even if you were on that drug certainly wouldnt increase by the same amount that the drug did.[/QUOTE]
Insurance companies have a bottom line they like to keep, these price gouging medications (like epi-pens, or how much hospital visits cost) cause the baseline cost of insurance to skyrocket, and causes the cheaper options to barley cover anything.
The only thing he has done that is good is that he exposed the current trend to fuck US patients over with price gouging.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;51124155]He's got the money, why the hell doesn't he just front it himself? At least he could have said "Whatever the highest bid is I will donate an equal amount to go with it", which is still pretty douchey since that's pretty much saying "I'm willing to match the price of what people who don't know my friend value his life at". I mean for fuck sake, you've got more money than you know what to do with and you can't be bothered to give it to the family of someone you call a friend?
What a schmuck.[/QUOTE]
he's too busy buying hip hop albums and getting scammed on bitcoins.
Someone lend me 100 grand, i'll fucking smash his teeth out.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;51124155]He's got the money, why the hell doesn't he just front it himself? At least he could have said "Whatever the highest bid is I will donate an equal amount to go with it", which is still pretty douchey since that's pretty much saying "I'm willing to match the price of what people who don't know my friend value his life at". I mean for fuck sake, you've got more money than you know what to do with and you can't be bothered to give it to the family of someone you call a friend?
What a schmuck.[/QUOTE]
Shkreli [I]is[/I] matching the donations. Apparently he got $50,000 from some girl in Florida to "repeatedly pummel him in the face". So thanks to Shkreli, the family of the deceased got $100,000 (and more, since everyone that donates to the charity will be eligible to assault him). Wow, what a shmuck, paying for the man's son to go to college. Real shmuck move.
[QUOTE=srobins;51125125]Shkreli [I]is[/I] matching the donations. Apparently he got $50,000 from some girl in Florida to "repeatedly pummel him in the face". So thanks to Shkreli, the family of the deceased got $100,000 (and more, since everyone that donates to the charity will be eligible to assault him). Wow, what a shmuck, paying for the man's son to go to college. Real shmuck move.[/QUOTE]
It still is when you quite literally live on a mountain of money.
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