• Israel creates giant detention facility for illegal Muslim and Christians; is letting them stay.
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You guys act like Israel is the fourth Reich or something. While I agree that this probably isn't the right way to handle this, what they are doing with these refugees isn't inhumane by any means. These are people who immigrated illegally. A lot of other countries would simply deport the refugees. At least Israel is letting them stay, albeit in a designated camp. Yeah, the whole granting amnesty to Jersey thing is dumb, but it's not like their cresting another Holocaust or anything.
[QUOTE=ExplosiveCheese;43258708]Hmm, I wonder what Sobotnik has to say.[/QUOTE] If it worsens enough it'll escalate to the point where the Israelis and Palestinians end up wiping each other out and nobody will really care about either group enough to stop it. It's bad enough that both sides are fighting over a provincial town of no strategic or economic value for the simple fact that their religion had a major prophet go there.
[QUOTE=Monkah;43258190]Nothing, but Israel is simply put, overpopulating. If you were to compare the size and population of the country to say, Illinois, you'd be pretty impressed they've been holding up on their own as is. This is meant to be a clear message to all attempted illegals; do not enter our country. Nazis = Took legal residents of the country and made them work against their will, feeding them rarely enough to have many starve to death and kept conditions unsanitary enough for many to die by disease. Israel = Took illegal residents of the country who were by statistic, causing high amounts of crime, offered them a chance to leave, and if they refused, let them serve in somewhere that they could be provided with food, clean water, and other goods that they may not of had in their original home. While Israel has done some questionable stuff, you really can't make the comparison in this case. They don't exactly have too many options.[/QUOTE] Bullshit. You can't sit there and argue that that's perfectly acceptable that they're building a concentration camp for people who aren't Jewish, on principle. How long is it going to take before the very place that they send these people turns out to become just as bad as the historical ones? If you can't accept them, then don't. Send them somewhere where they can be provided for, not to sit in a camp and rot/die.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43260043]Israelis and Palestinians end up wiping each other out[/QUOTE] You can't be delusional enough to think this will happen. The Israelis will just kill them all with not major casualties on their side.
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;43260655]You can't be delusional enough to think this will happen. The Israelis will just kill them all with not major casualties on their side.[/QUOTE] I don't think the Israeli state would survive such a war. It would probably tear itself apart during it.
I wish that when the Jews go to a country someone puts them in camps until they decide what to do with them. Then they'll see how.. Wait a second.
So when are the "work" camps going up?
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;43257920]I don't know how you can propose voluntary religious conversion as a tactic here.[/QUOTE] It wouldn't help. Israel demands proof of jewish heritage. And it doesn't matter what religion they have, anything but jewish means they aren't getting a free citizenship.
[QUOTE=Oscar Lima Echo;43261501]It wouldn't help. Israel demands proof of jewish heritage. And it doesn't matter what religion they have, anything but jewish means they aren't getting a free citizenship.[/QUOTE] How uhhh, jewish do you need to be to recieve the citizenship? half? One-third?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43260783]I don't think the Israeli state would survive such a war. It would probably tear itself apart during it.[/QUOTE] You mean, from people objecting, or from outside powers intervening?
People are honestly not looking at this from the Israelis perspective, there's already an epidemic in Israel with space, I think there was rally like 1 year ago where like 1 million people rioted because they couldn't buy homes, Israel is a very small country and the fact that they prioritize Jews is understandable. Israel is actually not that bad at what they do to illegal immigrants, there's much much worse. but hey, it's Israel :downs:
Another thing I was wondering. What about redirecting the immigrants to say, Saudi Arabia? Of all the countries they choose, they chose the smallest? Why does Israel automatically have an obligation to them? It sounds better than sending them off back to their home countries.
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;43261923] Israel is actually not that bad at what they do to illegal immigrants [/QUOTE] What the fuck are you talking about haha Israel literally sterilizes African immigrants to prevent them from reproducing. Forced sterilizations and interment camps is "not that bad"? So many idiots talking about stuff they don't know about it's disgraceful. [QUOTE=Shreddinger;43261923]the fact that they prioritize Jews is understandable.[/QUOTE] This is literally what you're saying: "The fact America priorities over Whites is understandable" Israel is holding one race higher than the other, aka apartheid. They perceive Jewish blood as more valuable than non-Jews ('goy') who are considered as inferior. This is why Israel bans Jews from marrying other Arabs or anyone who isn't Jew-blood. This isn't 'understandeable' - unless you agree with the assessment that Israel considers one race to be more valuable than the other (e.g. apartheid South Africa, Nazi Germany's conception of the 'Aryan race')
While somewhat of an entirely different scenario... I recall, due to the Freedom of Information Act, a bundle of documents that were released by the US Cabinet that detailed the constructions, workings, and goings of [i]Citizen Relocation Camps[/i] in the event of a Nation-Wide crises/catastrophe (ie Civil unrest). In about 300 pages it detailed the same sort of Detention Camps. With increasing levels of security for the unruly and uncooperative. Interns were pretty much treated like able'd prisoners in the low security area. (Group areas, no cells or shackles, but fenced in by barbed and controlled. For lack of a better example, think Concentration Camp.). It was really rather eerie to skim through. There were restrictions on leaving the camp, early curfews, armed control, and even unruly prisoner management (ie separation and execution). While I haven't read Israel's setup proposal. This feels a little similar in scenario. I'm going to try and dig up the document. [b]Edit:[/b] [url=http://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-InternmentResettlement.pdf]Here we go; The U.S. Army's Internment and Resettlement Operations, 2010.[/url]
[QUOTE=Keys;43264084]While somewhat of an entirely different scenario... I recall, due to the Freedom of Information Act, a bundle of documents that were released by the US Cabinet that detailed the constructions, workings, and goings of [I]Citizen Relocation Camps[/I] in the event of a Nation-Wide crises/catastrophe (ie Civil unrest). In about 300 pages it detailed the same sort of Detention Camps. With increasing levels of security for the unruly and uncooperative. Interns were pretty much treated like able'd prisoners in the low security area. (Group areas, no cells or shackles, but fenced in by barbed and controlled. For lack of a better example, think Concentration Camp.). It was really rather eerie to skim through. There were restrictions on leaving the camp, early curfews, armed control, and even unruly prisoner management (ie separation and execution). While I haven't read Israel's setup proposal. This feels a little similar in scenario. I'm going to try and dig up the document. [B]Edit:[/B] [URL="http://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-InternmentResettlement.pdf"]Here we go; The U.S. Army's Internment and Resettlement Operations, 2010.[/URL][/QUOTE] The only people who say stuff like this is bad are the same people who exclaim "FEMA camps!!" All nations should have a similar plan like this in the event of a massive, government-crippling nationwide catastrophe, or where else would all the citizens go if a nuke fucks up 90% of US territory? Conspiracy theorists say this is bad because they fear the government is going to round us up to those camps for no reason, or under a false pretext (i.e. false-flag).
[QUOTE=Oscar Lima Echo;43261501]It wouldn't help. Israel demands proof of jewish heritage. [/QUOTE] Definitely not. [editline]21st December 2013[/editline] By the way, about a hundred african migrants who went into the facility a few days ago marched onto Jerusalem after getting out during the day and protested against this. The police didn't arrest them for 2 days, hoping that they could return peacefully. When they reached Jerusalem, they protested for a short time before being arrested and put into the same facility. Shortly after being arrested, another group went out during the daytime period and started marching as well.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43258338]Its a shame that people use Israels conservative government to represent all Jews. Israel has a high birth rate and is expanding into its neighbors for living space while also enforcing race/religion based policies. I'm pushing it a bit far with the comparison.[/QUOTE] "Living space"... you know, "Lebenstraum", or "Poland".
[QUOTE=Starpluck;43264048]What the fuck are you talking about haha Israel literally sterilizes African immigrants to prevent them from reproducing. Forced sterilizations and interment camps is "not that bad"? So many idiots talking about stuff they don't know about it's disgraceful. This is literally what you're saying: "The fact America priorities over Whites is understandable" Israel is holding one race higher than the other, aka apartheid. They perceive Jewish blood as more valuable than non-Jews ('goy') who are considered as inferior. This is why Israel bans Jews from marrying other Arabs or anyone who isn't Jew-blood. This isn't 'understandeable' - unless you agree with the assessment that Israel considers one race to be more valuable than the other (e.g. apartheid South Africa, Nazi Germany's conception of the 'Aryan race')[/QUOTE] Right because you seem to be the chief master in knowing everything Israel, if anything you're obsessed with it, I wonder why. Now again, they have non-Jewish Ethiopians and arabs, reproducing like crazy. I think in about a couple of decades* there will be more arabs than Jews in the country. What does that say about a Jew exclusive country?, Israel was created for that purpose. It was meant to be a place for Jews and only Jews so that they can peacefully live there without worrying about antisemitism, they see this as threat and I completely see where they're coming from. However the sterilization of Ethiopians without their consent is very wrong, I agree. But they stopped doing it.
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;43264983]Now again, they have non-Jewish Ethiopians and arabs, reproducing like crazy. I think in about a couple of years there will be more arabs than Jews in the country. What does that say about a Jew exclusive country?, Israel was created for that purpose.[/QUOTE] Get committed.
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;43265243]Get committed.[/QUOTE] How is this Insane in any way?, I'm just saying what's happening right now.
[T][/T]I already knew that you supported reactionary bullshit to preserve racial purity within a State- [QUOTE=Shreddinger;43264983]I [B]think in about a couple of years there will be more arabs than Jews in the country.[/B] [/QUOTE] But this is just ridiculous. I'm not trying to be a dick dude, but when you seriously make assessments as outlandish as this then I cannot continue taking you seriously.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;43265292][T][/T]I already knew that you supported reactionary bullshit to preserve racial purity within a State- But this is just ridiculous. I'm not trying to be a dick dude, but when you seriously make assessments as outlandish as this then I cannot continue taking you seriously.[/QUOTE] I guess I'll refrain from posting in your threads then. If you want to be nice, you could elaborate on what you think is so controversial about what I'm saying, it will be really helpful, because I really don't see how it is. I see it now, I'm high lol, used years instead of decades. my point still stands, this shit is threatening the very existence of the Jewish homeland. the fact that they're not expelling them from the country is generous in itself
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