• #GamerGate bar meetup disrupted by bomb threats in Washington DC
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SJW is just a buzzword term for a vocal minority that people use to dismiss arguments because they can't be assed to or can't reasonably argue with said argument because it isn't grounded in reality. The same goes against the pro-GG side's SJW-equal, the sexist fedora wearing neckbeards, I'm not sure if there's a consolidated form of that, but I'm sure you get the gist. Those vocal minorities also use those terms to blindly dismiss ALL arguments from the respective other side as well. But again, they're a worthless vocal minority who became part of a movement because they wanted to fling shit like a bunch of assholes.
[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;47657929]I think they should start cracking down harder on false threats like this and swatting, it's disgusting how vile some people can get just because they don't like somebody[/QUOTE] IMO, false threats should carry the full punishment of fraud and half the punishment of if the threat were credible. Special case by case leniency of course for people who are too young to reasonably know better though. You also must be able to prove that the false threat was made with malicious intent and the like, gotta prevent it being abused or used to deter people doing the right thing after all.
[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;47657929]I think they should start cracking down harder on false threats like this and swatting, it's disgusting how vile some people can get just because they don't like somebody[/QUOTE] The problem with cracking down on the (super-minority) false claims that lead to SWATting and other dumb shit is that you may create some false positives with the real claims. Anybody who really wants to SWAT another person can fake distress enough, or provide a detached enough report for it to look legitimate. The really obvious SWAT calls where the mong behind it starts laughing on the phone are dealt with, they never go anywhere because it's obvious. These people are punished for that shit. But the people who know what they are doing are only "obvious" after the fact the SWATting happened. Much like many other things where a super-minority of people are ruining it just a bit for others, applying harsh punishments to the act of false reporting may cause greater risk, 911 operators being told "don't believe everything" might accidentally ignore a real call. That happening even once is enough of a reason to never go down that route.
[QUOTE=draugur;47657928]SJW is just a buzzword term for a vocal minority that people use to dismiss arguments because they can't be assed to or can't reasonably argue with said argument because it isn't grounded in reality. The same goes against the pro-GG side's SJW-equal, the sexist fedora wearing neckbeards, I'm not sure if there's a consolidated form of that, but I'm sure you get the gist. Those vocal minorities also use those terms to blindly dismiss ALL arguments from the respective other side as well. But again, they're a worthless vocal minority who became part of a movement because they wanted to fling shit like a bunch of assholes.[/QUOTE] SJWs are a real thing. The term is not used to shut down conversation, it's used to describe nearly the entirety of GamerGhazi, SRS, and other shitholes full of radfems and other assorted third-wave retardation. Feel free to go to these places and see for yourself.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;47657971]SJWs are a real thing. The term is not used to shut down conversation, it's used to describe nearly the entirety of GamerGhazi, SRS, and other shitholes full of radfems and other assorted third-wave retardation. Feel free to go to these places and see for yourself.[/QUOTE] I never said they weren't real. Just that they're a worthless minority that no one needs to pay attention to and to pretend otherwise is laughable at best. Don't put words in my mouth. If your argument is, "well them SJW types say." or "well some thread on /pol/...", or some other similar variation, then you're already losing all credibility your statement could possibly have.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;47657961]The problem with cracking down on the (super-minority) false claims that lead to SWATting and other dumb shit is that you may create some false positives with the real [/QUOTE] Until we actually get statistics, I'm not going to call it a minority or not.
[QUOTE=Swilly;47658267]Until we actually get statistics, I'm not going to call it a minority or not.[/QUOTE] Much like a ton of other things, you're not going to hear much about the times the SWAT teams and fire services are called out and actually do their job. You're only going to hear about the sensationalised to all fuck "some guy doing nothing wrong had SWAT bust his door down. what happens next will shock you!!!!!!" shit. It's pretty safe to say that SWATting isn't not an epidemic problem. It's a problem, one that needs resolving. But not a severe enough problem to risk the effectiveness of such a service.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;47657961]The problem with cracking down on the (super-minority) false claims that lead to SWATting and other dumb shit is that you may create some false positives with the real claims. Anybody who really wants to SWAT another person can fake distress enough, or provide a detached enough report for it to look legitimate. The really obvious SWAT calls where the mong behind it starts laughing on the phone are dealt with, they never go anywhere because it's obvious. These people are punished for that shit. But the people who know what they are doing are only "obvious" after the fact the SWATting happened. Much like many other things where a super-minority of people are ruining it just a bit for others, applying harsh punishments to the act of false reporting may cause greater risk, 911 operators being told "don't believe everything" might accidentally ignore a real call. That happening even once is enough of a reason to never go down that route.[/QUOTE] it shouldn't come from the route of the 911 operators, instead it should be heavy investigation after a false report, something like having the FBI investigating false reports, as swatting could be seen as a terroristic tactic. it might not be preventative, as there would be too much danger of false positives, but it could heavily discourage people from doing it if it is shown that you can't get away with a false report. if anyone is injured in the swat raid, it should be charged to the swatter, imo, along with the actual charge of swatting
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