Orcish Weaponry Unlocked - Legendary Orichalcum has been discovered!
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You know, we have a bunch of alloys with very unusual properties today...
Imagine 1000 years from now, someone saying: "A stash of legendary metal Superconductium was discovered in an ancient ship wreck! The secret of it's creation was lost for centuries!"
[QUOTE=Ardosos;46900370]Weren't there some theoretical stable elements way super high off the periodic table? Something about a supposed "island of stability"?[/QUOTE]
Yes, but the conditions to make them are not like the regular conditions under which elements are formed in stars and supernovae.
technically the title is a game reference, isn't it
[QUOTE]It was found about 1,000 feet from Gela's coast at a depth of 10 feet."[/QUOTE]
It was 10 feet below the water? I would think someone would've found it before now.
[QUOTE=IrishBandit;46901484]It was 10 feet below the water? I would think someone would've found it before now.[/QUOTE]
most likely buried in 20 feet of silt
Supposedly it's from/only found in Atlantis.
[QUOTE=Nikita;46901176]You know, we have a bunch of alloys with very unusual properties today...
Imagine 1000 years from now, someone saying: "A stash of legendary metal Superconductium was discovered in an ancient ship wreck! The secret of it's creation was lost for centuries!"[/QUOTE]
Considering the number of things that could smack us down without warning, it'd probably be something like "What men they were to build boats out of steel...", or even "Fool of a Wheeler, the old kings sealed those tombs with good reason! They tried to seal the Taint away after it swept over this world like a wildfire!"
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[QUOTE=Solomon;46901514]Supposedly it's from/only found in Atlantis.[/QUOTE]
So supposedly, if such a place existed, the secrets of Atlantean brass would have been closely guarded.
I wonder if it is like Damascus steel. Basically a metal that exists because the deposit it came from was extremely unique. Now almost impossible to recreate.
they look like baguettes
[QUOTE=Ardosos;46900370]Weren't there some theoretical stable elements way super high off the periodic table? Something about a supposed "island of stability"?[/QUOTE]
The island of stability has an element or two with their most stable isotopes decaying on the order of 1 second, rather than a few microseconds.
I always imagined metal smiths made experimental alloys throughout the ages, but they only did it when they were wealthy as it would be economically wasteful.
Perhaps there are many experimental ingots which we haven't found, or never really popularized because they weren't related to some unlikely lost continent.
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[editline]11th January 2015[/editline]
So supposedly, if such a place existed, the secrets of Atlantean brass would have been closely guarded.[/QUOTE]
It'd be neat if Atlantis was a real place at one point, IMO. So many stories and the like.
[QUOTE=Solomon;46901605]It'd be neat if Atlantis was a real place at one point, IMO. So many stories and the like.[/QUOTE]
Atlantis was probably a fictional civilization based on Greek Dark Age oral histories relating to the Minoan/Mycenaean age.
So the closest you'd get to the "actual location of Atlantis" is either Crete or the Cyclades.
Yup. I did a paper on why Atlantis is most likely a myth in english once. :v:
[QUOTE=Ardosos;46900370]Weren't there some theoretical stable elements way super high off the periodic table? Something about a supposed "island of stability"?[/QUOTE]
Heck, even the elements on the island of stability are extremely unstable compared to the normal ones, the only way to preserve them would be to make them form a compound.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;46900024]It's probably not a true elemental metal. More likely it's an interesting alloy.[/QUOTE]I think we can bump that up to absolutely certain, to be honest. It's basically another Damascus steel, a fancy alloy from a unique ore deposit. We could probably recreate the stuff with modern technology, though I doubt it'd have any practical applications other than novelty.
[QUOTE=GunFox;46901535]I wonder if it is like Damascus steel. Basically a metal that exists because the deposit it came from was extremely unique. Now almost impossible to recreate.[/QUOTE]
It's been found to be a bronze alloy, so it'll be interesting to see what exactly is, and if we have anything comparable. I believe though that Raptor might be onto something.
[QUOTE=ironman17;46901520]So supposedly, if such a place existed, the secrets of Atlantean brass would have been closely guarded.[/QUOTE]
The Venetians did the same with their glassmakers in the Middle Ages; they lived affluently and were treated well, but they were forbidden to leave the country and would be killed if they exposed their craft secrets.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;46903410]I think we can bump that up to absolutely certain, to be honest. It's basically another Damascus steel, a fancy alloy from a unique ore deposit. We could probably recreate the stuff with modern technology, though I doubt it'd have any practical applications other than novelty.[/QUOTE]Actually quite a few ancient metals are basically a mystery to us, we know exactly what they're made of but making them is another story. Forming an alloy is not like baking a cake, the process is often far more important than the base ingredients, and it sometimes involves a bunch of really retarded steps to get a finished product. That's why even simple steel has seen so many permutations of essentially the same thing, an example being in the early 1900's we used vanadium steel for basically everything under a lot of stress, but it has been thoroughly replaced by more modern steels.
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[highlight]snip doesn't help if you get quoted" - Orkel))[/highlight][/QUOTE]
Now that is scummy bullshit from both you, Orkel, and the guy who quoted him.
EDIT: I didn't even realise that the quote was [b]not[/b] on purpose, what the hell is wrong with you mods.
[QUOTE=Furioso;46900632]I think it's extremely unlikely. The heavier an element gets (more protons+neutrons) the more prone to radioactive decay it becomes. That's why the elements currently highest on the periodic table have lifespans of a few milliseconds or so - a few atoms exist long enough to be detected and observed, then they decay into smaller elements and alpha/beta particles because they're simply too unstable. Even the proposed "island of stability" theoretical elements are predicted to have lifespans of just a few seconds.[/QUOTE]
does a neutron star count as a giant atom?
I wonder how it looks when it's not corroded, and after some polishing.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;46903975]Now that is scummy bullshit from both you, Orkel, and the guy who quoted him.
EDIT: I didn't even realise that the quote was [b]not[/b] on purpose, what the hell is wrong with you mods.[/QUOTE]
Da warboss don care bout no humiez.
Anyways It's a little disappointing it's gold colored instead of green like it is in skyrim. Still cool nonetheless.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;46903975]Now that is scummy bullshit from both you, Orkel, and the guy who quoted him.
EDIT: I didn't even realise that the quote was [b]not[/b] on purpose, what the hell is wrong with you mods.[/QUOTE]
I saw the snip and was wondering why Orkel still banned him, that's some bullshit right there.
Watch as we get silently banned.
[QUOTE=uitham;46904073]does a neutron star count as a giant atom?[/QUOTE]
I think it is considered a giant nucleus, at least at its core.
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It's a form of bronze. Nothing too fancy or magical.
[Quote=Discovery News]Analyzed with X-ray fluorescence by Dario Panetta, of TQ - Tecnologies for Quality, the 39 ingots turned to be an alloy made with 75-80 percent copper, 15-20 percent zinc and small percentages of nickel, lead and iron.[/quote]
[url]http://news.discovery.com/history/archaeology/atlantis-legendary-metal-found-in-shipwreck-150106.htm[/url]
So, what make them think its orichalcum?
[QUOTE=GunFox;46901535]I wonder if it is like Damascus steel. Basically a metal that exists because the deposit it came from was extremely unique. Now almost impossible to recreate.[/QUOTE]
I thought Damascus was supposed to be similar to wootz steel, something about how it was made with woody biomass in the carburizing process creating carbon nanotubes. It was a while ago but i remember reading something like that.
Carbon nanotubes + metal are awesome though, I've seen something on the net that claims it creates new material out of silver with CNTs mixed in. It claims that it makes some weird crystallization, and they call the new material mithril.
Link:
[url]http://www.instructables.com/community/Kickstarter-Space-Engineer-creates-real-Mithril/[/url]
[url]https://web.archive.org/web/20120913043640/http://liftport.com/gallery/album/31-cntsilver-alloy-wedding-rings/[/url]
Probably bogus though, as it involves kickstarter and there isn't any google findings that can confirm this
EDIT: Now this: [url]http://web.eng.fiu.edu/agarwala/pdf/2010/12.pdf[/url] looks like it explains all types of carbon nanotube + metal, or as they say it, carbon nanotube metal matrix reinforced composites
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