• Science Suggests Smoking Pot Raises Risk of Testicular Cancer, Schizophenia and Infertility - and Lo
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[QUOTE=DELL;37684459]I don't think they bother to look into it. Not that in the end we would care about the negative effects. That and I'm pretty sure my 4 energy drinks a day is much much worse for my health.[/QUOTE] You're right, I'm sure if they did studies on most of the food products we're consuming they'd find just as adverse effects, or even worse ones for that matter.
These studies are making an association, and it's a hypothesis. Even if everything is true, fine marijuana smoke causes all of these things, what does this mean? Marijuana deserves to be illegal? Nicotine, alcohol, a plethora of prescription drugs and even beverages/food, etc have far worse repercussions. I don't see the point, what if one only uses marijuana by ingesting it as an edible? Or uses a vaporizer to negate all of the adverse effects of smoking? That would make all of these effects irrelevant, besides the psychological effects, which are only an issue if a. you're using as your brain is still developing, which is the case with any other substance, or b. you have a predisposition to schizophrenia. I'm not saying marijuana is risk free, I'm just saying what are these articles trying to imply, and better yet, why is marijuana still illegal? I know someone mentioned sparking a illegality ebate, I'm sorry, but really, marijuana aside, why is industrial hemp, a plant that has absolutely no psychoactive chemicals present or effects, illegal? [QUOTE] United States Patent 6,630,507 Hampson , et al. October 7, 2003 Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants Abstract Cannabinoids have been found to have [B]antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism[/B]. This new found property makes cannabinoids [B]useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases.[/B] [B]The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia. [/B]Nonpsychoactive cannabinoids, such as cannabidoil, are particularly advantageous to use because they avoid toxicity that is encountered with psychoactive cannabinoids at high doses useful in the method of the present invention. A particular disclosed class of cannabinoids useful as neuroprotective antioxidants is formula (I) wherein the R group is independently selected from the group consisting of H, CH.sub.3, and COCH.sub.3. ##STR1## [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tophat;37684286]I don't understand how some studies show that it kills cancerous cells, yet there are other studies that suggest it may cause testicular cancer. [editline]16th September 2012[/editline] That's definitely not common knowledge. If it were, do you think things would be the way they are right now with all these 12 year olds smoking weed?[/QUOTE] Depends on how you ingest it, if you smoke it with papers, blunts, wooden/metal pipes, ect, it can cause damage. Using bongs and vaporizers, as well as putting it in food and drinks, lowers, if not completely negates any negative side effects. People will still ingest some harmless substances through idiotic ways.
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I wouldn't be surprised about the IQ thing. I've never met a full-on stoner who wasn't an idiot. Not the case with occasional smokers, I've noticed though.
[QUOTE=Greenen72;37684421]who cares the about the negative effects of weed when it can cure cancer and revolutionize our economy by bringing in booming paper and rope-making business[/QUOTE] This just in, Cancer cured by growing a cancerous testicle tumour
[QUOTE=Kiwi Bird;37684832]I wouldn't be surprised about the IQ thing. I've never met a full-on stoner who wasn't an idiot. Not the case with occasional smokers, I've noticed though.[/QUOTE] Oh yay, lets start the anecdotal train
[QUOTE=Kiwi Bird;37684832]I wouldn't be surprised about the IQ thing. I've never met a full-on stoner who wasn't an idiot. Not the case with occasional smokers, I've noticed though.[/QUOTE] carl sagan haha
i just don't even care what scientists say about pot anymore EDIT just so i'm not too misunderstood, I'm not a stoner (if I was, I would care). I'm a bit past reading all these different articles about what effects pot supposedly has. especially when they imply that effects that pot has on certain people are universal as the title of this thread does.
umm guys incase you didn't notice smoke doesn't goin to your balls or your brain so it's not the smoke casuing ball cancer and brain defects its the chemicals itself not smoking is a lot better than smoking but weed has a lot more negatives that are permanent compared to the very temporary high
[QUOTE=McGii;37684874]umm guys incase you didn't notice smoke doesn't goin to your balls or your brain so it's not the smoke casuing ball cancer and brain defects its the chemicals itself not smoking is a lot better than smoking but weed has a lot more negatives that are permanent compared to the very temporary high[/QUOTE] That's not how it works.
[QUOTE=Greenen72;37684421]who cares the about the negative effects of weed when it can cure cancer and revolutionize our economy by bringing in booming paper and rope-making business[/QUOTE] whats more it can be used to make steel with at only 1% of the original price plus it holds the secret to immortality and can increase penile girth and length
[QUOTE=Cruma;37684885]That's not how it works.[/QUOTE] what so eating weed gives magically gives you different chemicals to smoking it looks like the IQ hypothesis is true
[QUOTE=Article]It’s important to note that the risk of testicular cancer is relatively low, slightly more than 1 percent, so even when the risk is doubled, it’s still extremely small.[/QUOTE] Ok so i can live with that risk, im twenty so i dont have to worry about the IQ thing and schizophrenia is not in my family so im going to keep smoking responsibly.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;37684887]whats more it can be used to make steel with at only 1% of the original price plus it holds the secret to immortality and can increase penile girth and length[/QUOTE] I hear in women it increases the sensitivity of the gspot by upwards of 200% [editline]16th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;37684895]Ok so i can live with that risk, im twenty so i dont have to worry about the IQ thing and schizophrenia is not in my family so im going to keep smoking responsibly.[/QUOTE] have fun in 20 years when your lungs stop working from you willfully and repeatedly filling them with smoke
Is smoking also pertain to vaporization in this study?
[QUOTE=Lanopo;37684907]Is smoking also pertain to vaporization in this study?[/QUOTE] it says smoking but eating or vaporization or enema or however they do it now still gives you the same chemicals, just without fucking your lungs with smoke in the process
A main point here that i feel will be overlooked though is that this mentions using it while growing up and developing has a significant impact on IQ which, as i said in the last thread like this: No shit.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;37684935]A main point here that i feel will be overlooked though is that this mentions using it while growing up and developing has a significant impact on IQ which, as i said in the last thread like this: No shit.[/QUOTE] common sense isnt common, especially considering the main users are people who are still developing mentally (IE people under 28), and these same people like to shout how much of a wonder drug without any negatives weed is
[QUOTE=McGii;37684890]what so eating weed gives magically gives you different chemicals to smoking it looks like the IQ hypothesis is true[/QUOTE] Refer to my post on page one about this being an association and a hypothesis, I'm sure if they did the exact same study with the the participants vaporizing or ingesting the cannabis, we'd see a lot different results. [QUOTE=McGii;37684899] have fun in 20 years when your lungs stop working from you willfully and repeatedly filling them with smoke[/QUOTE] Again, it's up to the user to decide whether or not they want to consume THC by smoking it or not. [QUOTE=Lanopo;37684907]Is smoking also pertain to vaporization in this study?[/QUOTE] No, smoking is lighting the plant on fire and inhaling the smoke, vaporizing is heating the plant material to a point that only vapors are released, without igniting it.
[QUOTE=Lanopo;37684907]Is smoking also pertain to vaporization in this study?[/QUOTE] This is about the actual drug itself and not the intake. Intake method is irrelevant.
welp, too late for me
[QUOTE=Cruma;37684955]Refer to my post on page one about this being an association and a hypothesis, I'm sure if they did the exact same study with the the participants vaporizing or ingesting the cannabis, we'd see a lot different results. [/QUOTE] sorry but chemicals are chemicals and don't magically do different things because magic you still get the same high eating or vaporising or smoking, its all the same its like nicotine patches, same nicotine hit minus the smoking. also the dude literally said hed be smoking
[url]http://digitaljournal.com/article/317738[/url] will you look at that, occasional marijuana use does not affect lung function.
It would be nice if you linked to an actual study instead of linking to a page which only links to yahoo news, the most trustworthy source on the planet [editline]16th September 2012[/editline] Not too mention the yahoo links which search the web for key phrases instead of linking you somewhere
[QUOTE=McGii;37685045]It would be nice if you linked to an actual study instead of linking to a page which only links to yahoo news, the most trustworthy source on the planet [editline]16th September 2012[/editline] Not too mention the yahoo links which search the web for key phrases instead of linking you somewhere[/QUOTE] [url]http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1104848[/url]
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;37684278]Alcohol, pot, every other kind of drug and even caffeine is bad for people under 18 because their brains are still being developed. Any chemical imbalance will throw the process off so yeah its not just pot.[/QUOTE] Regardless of age, the one side-effect pot is known to have is developing increased risk of psychosis, and therefore probably schizophrenia too. And you can be 45 years old for all good that'll do you.
I'm not finished reading it but the dose of weed is much lower than the dose of tobacco (365 joints a year compared to 7100 cigarettes), not only that but they admit: [quote]Prior studies of marijuana smokers have demonstrated consistent evidence of airway mucosal injury and inflammation as well as increased respiratory symptoms such as cough, phlegm production, and wheeze, similar to that seen in tobacco smokers.[/quote] They did a study comparing weed and tobacco, make the tobacco users smoke 20 cigarettes a day compared to 1 joint, then they only talk about weed in their conclusion section in the abstract I'm going for a run but I'll finish reading it later but this study seems biased so far.
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