Student writes his entire dissertation in one 40-hour sitting, gets a 2:1 - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Zeke129;47408730]I'm pretty sure the PR he's getting from this will be more valuable in finding a job than any degree would be[/QUOTE] I'm sure it will only make it harder

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;47418160]I'm sure it will only make it harder[/QUOTE] It's one of those things that will really depend on the employer. I expect most will see the "left it until last minute" and just nope the fuck out of there when he applies to them. But some might see the fact he got a good grade as a sign he works well to deadlines. Though it is a philosophy degree, I don't think McDonalds or Starbucks actually give a shit about deadlines when you're at the tills.

With all these jokes about Philosophy degree being useless, can anyone tell if there actually is any appliance to a proper philosophy degree? What the fuck can a person do with it?

[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;47418625]With all these jokes about Philosophy degree being useless, can anyone tell if there actually is any appliance to a proper philosophy degree? What the fuck can a person do with it?[/QUOTE] Get a job at a place where your degree largely doesn't matter, just that you have one You'd be surprised just how much of the job market is like this. Its super rare for someone to get a job into something that directly applies to their degree unless its a technical/academic field

I found out about a 10-page final paper twelve hours before it was due. I ended up passing it in on time and I got an A on it. I read syllabuses now.

[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;47418625]With all these jokes about Philosophy degree being useless, can anyone tell if there actually is any appliance to a proper philosophy degree? What the fuck can a person do with it?[/QUOTE] Become a philosophy teacher and lead the next generation of philosophy teachers.

[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;47418625]With all these jokes about Philosophy degree being useless, can anyone tell if there actually is any appliance to a proper philosophy degree? What the fuck can a person do with it?[/QUOTE] Piss off people for money.

[QUOTE=Kylel999;47417711]If bad reading was a rating you'd probably have like 300 of them though I think that means he used just one book to reference from :v:[/QUOTE] over here you'd get your paper thrown out if you only referenced one book for two thirds of it are you sure you're not the one who should have bad readings

[QUOTE=Electrocuter;47410129]That is some serious procrastination. Reminds me of how me and a buddy did a group final project for a class, for which we we're given the whole school year to work on, in a single week and we got an 18 out of 20. Was a crazy week.[/QUOTE] I had a month to build a life-size trebuchet with some classmates. Damn that was a hectic 3 days. I also had Christmas break to build a miniature bridge that needed to hold 50 lbs at a different point for the same class. Another three days of hell :v:

A few years ago I missed out on about a month of school, and on the first day back found out we had a history test. Ended up getting full marks on the test. Pretty sure the teacher thought I was either cheating or a fucking genius. Still don't know how I managed it.

[QUOTE=Jund;47421260]over here you'd get your paper thrown out if you only referenced one book for two thirds of it are you sure you're not the one who should have bad readings[/QUOTE] For regular class term papers I was required at least 10 sources, 5 of which had to be books.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47421525]For regular class term papers I was required at least 10 sources, 5 of which had to be books.[/QUOTE] Same here. The simplest way to get by that for me when working on run of the mill papers was to gather most of your major information from one source that covered the subject well, and then just find the redundant information in the other books, and cite those for reference padding. Basically using one source, but referencing out ten.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47421525]For regular class term papers I was required at least 10 sources, 5 of which had to be books.[/QUOTE] Half of my professors didn't even say how many sources I needed for their papers. I vaguely remember one saying a minimum of 5 sources for a 2500 word paper, which sounds about right because another prof wanted a 2500 word paper and wanted five sources at minimum.

pretty fuckin depressed seeing how low philosophy is in the general esteem if this thread is anything to go by

[QUOTE=Kommodore;47421595]pretty fuckin depressed seeing how low philosophy is in the general esteem if this thread is anything to go by[/QUOTE] Its historically important but a completely useless profession, even psychology majors can find work in the medical field, sociology majors can find employment in analytics, philosophy though just is a purely academic field with not really any real world application anymore

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47412458]I've taken philosophy classes before and really there's nothing in there that you couldn't learn outside skimming wikipedia.[/QUOTE] You could say that about most subjects really. People generally take a course for a more structured and holistic form of learning - not to learn stuff that they could just read on wikipedia one afternoon.

That's basically how I've always done my essays. Give me a month to write a twenty page assignment and I'll do all twenty of them on the last day because I can't manage my time.

[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;47418625]With all these jokes about Philosophy degree being useless, can anyone tell if there actually is any appliance to a proper philosophy degree? What the fuck can a person do with it?[/QUOTE] Become a philosopher :v: In seriousness you could become an author or a professor or something [QUOTE=Sableye;47421946]Its historically important but a completely useless profession, even psychology majors can find work in the medical field, sociology majors can find employment in analytics, philosophy though just is a purely academic field with not really any real world application anymore[/QUOTE] The goal of studying something isn't always employment. Just because something doesn't have obvious market value doesn't make it useless. I'm pretty sure that philosophy itself as a field has a lot of not immediately apparent influence as it's about how we view or perceive the world.

[QUOTE=Kommodore;47421595]pretty fuckin depressed seeing how low philosophy is in the general esteem if this thread is anything to go by[/QUOTE] Facepunch is predominately comprised of people who would study Engineering or related degrees at a university, and it's like a massive in-joke that anything arts related is a waste of time. Eg written on the wall of a toilet cubicle at my university, just above the toilet paper dispenser is 'get your free arts degree here'. However I don't share that same sentiment, and I can see why someone would study philosophy as I imagine it can be quite interesting. It's kind of a problem here though because the government and therefore taxpayers pay 100% of the cost of uni degrees upfront, and the student only pays off up to 50% of that as a portion of the cost is a deferred loan with the government. You can understand taxpayers wouldn't be happy with funding degrees that at least on the surface are not economical in any way. However I don't see the harm in students doing philosophy for their electives, and in fact a philosophy course is one of the choices for directed courses in my Accounting major, which I'll do next semester.

[QUOTE=Sableye;47421946]Its historically important but a completely useless profession, even psychology majors can find work in the medical field, sociology majors can find employment in analytics, philosophy though just is a purely academic field with not really any real world application anymore[/QUOTE] philosophy is something everyone should try to integrate in their everyday lives, even if their only experience of it is personal college courses help by showing you the past and helps you refine your own philosophy (as well as create an avenue of discussion among you and your peers) ngl people who you can't hold any meaningful philosophical discourses with tend to be kinda stupid

[QUOTE=JustExtreme;47422054]Become a philosopher :v: In seriousness you could become an author or a professor or something.[/QUOTE] That's pretty much it. Writing books for the most part doesn't pay well and is hard to get into the field. Becoming a professor requires additional classes in education field. Philosophy is not a versatile field. Wasting 4 years and tons of money on it is horrible planning. Should've taken up economy instead.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;47422995]That's pretty much it. Writing books for the most part doesn't pay well and is hard to get into the field. Becoming a professor requires additional classes in education field. Philosophy is not a versatile field. Wasting 4 years and tons of money on it is horrible planning. Should've taken up economy instead.[/QUOTE] I'm doing philosophy because I don't give a shit about money

Mate of mine did his masters in Philosophy, he lectures in NUIG now, so I guess hes one of the lucky few who get jobs directly relating to the field.

[QUOTE=Sableye;47421946]Its historically important but a completely useless profession, even psychology majors can find work in the medical field, sociology majors can find employment in analytics, philosophy though just is a purely academic field with not really any real world application anymore[/QUOTE] Marcuse and Horkheimer said like 80 years ago that eventually society would have become so enamored with technology and practicality that knowledge would have become completely subjected to its most base practical value, basically turning knowledge into a common good. They even predicted that education would have changed to basically a way to market and sell yourself, instead of something to better yourself. It will be a scary day when the only reason you study something is because it could land you a job.

[QUOTE='[IT] Zodiac;47423728'] It will be a scary day when the only reason you study something is because it could land you a job.[/QUOTE]What's wrong with learning skills that will land you a job so you can enjoy a good life? Without skilled workers society will perish. If you want to study to better yourself, you can do it for free and without universities.

You know, I've never written an essay worth less than a B when I'm up against a hard deadline. I tend to write worse and put less effort into it when I've got a week instead of a couple of hours.

[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;47418625]With all these jokes about Philosophy degree being useless, can anyone tell if there actually is any appliance to a proper philosophy degree? What the fuck can a person do with it?[/QUOTE] Philosophy majors score higher on law school entrance exams than anyone else, but that's it. Humanities jobs are either "teach humanities" or "work a job that requires ANY bachelors degree as a proof of competence". [editline]30th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE='[IT] Zodiac;47423728']Marcuse and Horkheimer[/QUOTE] Also founded critical theory, the school of thought which combines every -ism in the world to try to create unique narratives by which to critique things; I.e: The core ideology behind humanities majors nowadays and most importantly, SJWs. Marcuse also advocated that everybody have lots and lots of sex in his book "eros and civilization", a response to Freud's civilization and its discontents; he agrees with freud (lol) in his analysis of the psycho-sexual forces at play in society, but diverts from freud when freud says that some level of sexual repression is necessary or else everybody would be raping each other. Marcuse says that democratic potential exists in absolutely no sexual repression and says that everybody should just have one bigass orgy with no monogamy or anything like that Sounds like a bunch of hippy dippy baloney. The reason philosophy sucks is because there was a split in the early 20th century; the positivists went on to say "actually philosophy is for tools; science rocks", and everybody else went on to say a bunch of shit that made no sense and made up post modernism. The reason this happened is because historically philosophy was done by polymaths, people like Immanuel Kant, who came up with the idea that everything in the universe is made of dead stars, or people like Gottfried Leibniz, who invented calculus. It's easy to see philosophy as important when it came from such important people who did such important things: philosophers actually contributed to the world! Nowadays we have philosphers, and we have scientists. Polymaths hardly exist anymore. I don't lament this; I spent a lot of time studying philosophy, and when I came to the 20th century, I got to the rift: Wittgenstein says that philosophy is essentially mental masturbation with fancy words; there is no language we can use to express ourselves that will get us or anyone else any closer to what kant might call "truth". The postmodernists can't reconcile this; so everything because some kind of perception of reality through political identity and all that; the only way to better ones position in life is to try to critique all of reality from ones own critico-ideologico-perception: women with feminism, blacks with black power movements, workers with communism. Critique, to them, is the engine for social change, taking a radical departure from the Marxist theories which they base their ideology off of, which states that technology is the catalyst for social change, and revolution is the engine. Ultimately, I choose to side with wittgenstein and analytical philosophy, AFTER is departed with postmodernism (I think there's merit in the history of philosophy before wittgenstein), but I think the ultimate way to better ones position in life is through self-empowerment in studying science: NOT through attaching oneself to some fake revolutionary group pretending to make the world better by calling everyone cisgendered scum and talking about white privilege [editline]30th March 2015[/editline] The only philosopher worth any attention nowadays in my opinion is Slavoj Zizek; he doesn't fuck around with all the critical theory bullshit

[QUOTE=proboardslol;47424270]Philosophy majors score higher on law school entrance exams than anyone else, but that's it. Humanities jobs are either "teach humanities" or "work a job that requires ANY bachelors degree as a proof of competence".[/QUOTE] so what? you're so bent out of shape about the humanities for not being materially productive that i cant help but imagine how ornery and arrogant and how anemic your worldview must be irl based on that one judgement alone. but i don't make a point of going thread to thread shitting on STEM people for being degree-holders with essentially no holistic education, less morally competent citizens and less prepared to interpret the most relevant parts of the world they live in, to the point of autism i should add.

Well Paddy, I got a 1st in my dissertation and I spent months on it.

[QUOTE=Kommodore;47424420]so what? you're so bent out of shape about the humanities for not being materially productive that i cant help but imagine how ornery and arrogant and how anemic your worldview must be irl based on that one judgement alone. but i don't make a point of going thread to thread shitting on STEM people for being degree-holders with essentially no holistic education, less morally competent citizens and less prepared to interpret the most relevant parts of the world they live in, to the point of autism i should add.[/QUOTE] I used to be a humanities person. I used to have a stack of philosophy books as tall as I am. I considered myself a faithful hegelian (and still do; the only philospher I give any attention to nowadays is Slavoj Zizek). But it got me nothing. I had a circle of friends who also studied philosophy, and they read different authors. They didn't like Zizek, I did, so we had a rift between us. Eventually, I sort of realized that studying philosophy and talking about shit like that wasn't making me happy. I spent a year away from college and just worked; I acted like a normal dude who didn't know anything about philosophy. I read some scifi books and decided to get into programming, and realized that's what I liked, so now I'm a CS major (used to be english major). Philosophy just simply has nothing to offer me anymore. There are no surprises left and everything just turns into postmodern bullshit after 1900. Analytical philosophy is cool but you don't need a degree to do thought experiments. ultimately, I think a better education in philosophy is to just read the books yourself if you're so inclined. I just think humanities departments are just a big waste of money. Join a book club if you feel like finding likeminded people. Studying science makes me happier, I guess.