• Anonymous declares all-out offensive against Westboro Baptist Church in response to shooting protest
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Could America just individually ban every WBC member from protesting. Just make an amendment to the constitution just for them.
It's nice to see them doing things like this.
[QUOTE=Riller;38922028] 'fighting words'[/QUOTE] Fighting words is a stupid law set up so they can legally arrest and charge groups they don't particularly like. Because of this, the US does not have freedom of speech.
I thought discrimination(i.e. what WBC does to the rest of the world) was illegal?
How amazing would it be if they'd rigged up the entire WBC church/house with 'Home Alone' style booby traps and cameras to live stream the whole 'unveiling' in 1080p with cinematic camera angles. Fred Phelps comes out of the bathroom, slips on a soap bar, lands on a skateboard, has his dressing gown torn off by a well-placed umbrella, goes through a hole in the floor into the kitchen where he ends up dangling over a lit hob by a rope attached to his foot which ignites his hair. His yelling alerts Shirley Phelps who runs in from the garden, getting immediately punched in the face with a boxing glove and then slipping on an oily floor, grabbing hold of Fred as she falls. The rope snaps and he falls to the floor, igniting it with his hair, and they both run into the chapel to escape the comically ineffectual blaze. This sort of hilarious mayhem and hijinks ensures for a good hour or two before the entire house/chapel is completely destroyed.
I haven't seen the WBC in the mainstream media AT ALL until Anonymous jumped on board. The only "press" coverage they were getting came from shitty Examiner.com blogs (aka content farmhouses where authors get paid by page views). All Anonymous are doing is giving the mainstream media more and more reasons to put the WBC back in the spotlight.
The Family Research Council was named a hate group by the SPLC so I don't see why not WBC
I love how they think they are serving god when they cherry-pick the bible :p But seriously this is fucking awesome.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;38923957]I haven't seen the WBC in the mainstream media AT ALL until Anonymous jumped on board. The only "press" coverage they were getting came from shitty Examiner.com blogs (aka content farmhouses where authors get paid by page views). All Anonymous are doing is giving the mainstream media more and more reasons to put the WBC back in the spotlight.[/QUOTE] Yeah, all of this attention being given to WBC only legitimises them.
[QUOTE=Valnar;38924934]Yeah, all of this attention being given to WBC only legitimises them.[/QUOTE] Or it might be the push needed to get them designated as a hate group? They want fame, but strike from the shadows. They hope someone will strike back so they can sue, and they'll keep doing it until they die or their god finally comes. Ignoring them isn't going to help, either. All it would mean is that we would not know people are being hurt by a toxic byproduct of Christian ideology.
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;38924962]Or it might be the push needed to get them designated as a hate group? They want fame, but strike from the shadows. They hope someone will strike back so they can sue, and they'll keep doing it until they die or their god finally comes. Ignoring them isn't going to help, either. All it would mean is that we would not know people are being hurt by a toxic byproduct of Christian ideology.[/QUOTE] The WBC is a small group of people going to funerals to protest against homosexuality. The only power they have is the power that is given to them by people and the media. If the attention to their protests had been kept low and localized, they would not have the attention or resources to do all of this on a national scale. Giving them attention and media space is the only thing that makes them important.
[QUOTE=Vasili;38923635]Fighting words is a stupid law set up so they can legally arrest and charge groups they don't particularly like. Because of this, the US does not have freedom of speech.[/QUOTE] It's so you can't go up to some old lady and scream "YOU ARE A FUCKING CUNT" and when cops start to fuss at you you can't go "uh-uh-uh freedom of speech" Freedom of speech means you won't mysteriously disappear if you speak out against your government or other sorts of things. Freedom of speech =/= freedom of consequence of what you say. I am "free" to do whatever I want but I can't go steal someones car without consequences. EDIT: The wikipedia definition [quote] Fighting words are written or spoken words, generally expressed to incite hatred or violence from their target.[1][citation needed] Specific definitions, freedoms, and limitations of fighting words vary by jurisdiction. It is also used in a general sense of words that when uttered tend to create (deliberately or not) a verbal or physical confrontation by their mere usage. [I]In the US[/I] The fighting words doctrine, in United States constitutional law, is a limitation to freedom of speech as protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. In 1942, the U.S. Supreme Court established the doctrine by a 9-0 decision in Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire. It held that "insulting or 'fighting words,' those that by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace" are among the "well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech the prevention and punishment of [which] ... have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem." [/quote] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words[/url] Technically WBC is breaking this law.
Fuck the WBC, it's people like these that give us normal Christians hate.
[quote][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words[/URL] Technically WBC is breaking this law.[/quote] They aren't breaking the law. There was already a supreme court case the WBC were in (that someone already mentioned earlier in this thread) that dealt with that, Synder v. Phelps. The ruling in a nutshell was "speech on a public sidewalk, about a public issue, cannot be liable for a tort of emotional distress, even if the speech is found to be 'outrageous'."
[QUOTE=Valnar;38925392]They aren't breaking the law. There was already a supreme court case the WBC were in (that someone already mentioned earlier in this thread) that dealt with that, Synder v. Phelps. The ruling in a nutshell was "speech on a public sidewalk, about a public issue, cannot be liable for a tort of emotional distress, even if the speech is found to be 'outrageous'."[/QUOTE] So, in the US, "freedom of speech" [I]does[/I] mean you can be an absolute cunt.
[QUOTE=megafat;38925969]So, in the US, "freedom of speech" [I]does[/I] mean you can be an absolute cunt.[/QUOTE] It means that the government can't silence you because you say unpopular things.
[QUOTE=legolover122;38925317]It's so you can't go up to some old lady and scream "YOU ARE A FUCKING CUNT" and when cops start to fuss at you you can't go "uh-uh-uh freedom of speech" Freedom of speech means you won't mysteriously disappear if you speak out against your government or other sorts of things. Freedom of speech =/= freedom of consequence of what you say. I am "free" to do whatever I want but I can't go steal someones car without consequences. EDIT: The wikipedia definition [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words[/URL] Technically WBC is breaking this law.[/QUOTE] Freedom of speech is the right to opinions and ideas, if you restrict it then you don't have freedom of speech, a simple concept. Furthermore I'm aware of the law, which I still find stupid, to arrest people whom go against the majority in opinion (in this case). This buss statement "freedom of consequence" means nothing and is a fallacy, while the second part is a terrible analogy as you assume people who express their views are car thieves and neither is it a form of expression or speech. And the WBC are not breaking the law. Liberty is a double bladed sword.
[QUOTE=Valnar;38925993]It means that the government can't silence you because you say unpopular things.[/QUOTE] You don't have to act out to act like a cunt.
i'm gonna be super-pretentious today and remind everyone of something Rosa Luxemburg pointed out, freedom of speech is useless unless it's the freedom of the one who thinks differently.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;38923707]How amazing would it be if they'd rigged up the entire WBC church/house with 'Home Alone' style booby traps and cameras to live stream the whole 'unveiling' in 1080p with cinematic camera angles. Fred Phelps comes out of the bathroom, slips on a soap bar, lands on a skateboard, has his dressing gown torn off by a well-placed umbrella, goes through a hole in the floor into the kitchen where he ends up dangling over a lit hob by a rope attached to his foot which ignites his hair. His yelling alerts Shirley Phelps who runs in from the garden, getting immediately punched in the face with a boxing glove and then slipping on an oily floor, grabbing hold of Fred as she falls. The rope snaps and he falls to the floor, igniting it with his hair, and they both run into the chapel to escape the comically ineffectual blaze. This sort of hilarious mayhem and hijinks ensures for a good hour or two before the entire house/chapel is completely destroyed.[/QUOTE] Why did you make him naked? :(
Anon does some hit and miss actions but this one is surely a great one. This is more useful than hacking some PSN accounts.
kill it
[QUOTE=Slacker996;38923100]Fred Phelps is an [B]evil[/B] lawyer[/QUOTE] Fix'd
Westburo cant deny that they are going way too high profile. Its getting to the point where they could easily be killed by some pissed off person and chances are they would never be found.
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