BREAKING: Shooting at Black Lives Matter protest in Dallas, TX - Please SOURCE your updates. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;50670769][B]Sniper was possibly misidentified[/B] [video=youtube;9JxkwVZnKwY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JxkwVZnKwY[/video] [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/4rsb4k/shots_fired_at_dallas_protests/d53ug1v[/url][/QUOTE] He could be a secondary. Not jumping to that conclusion, since there are a lot of law abiding gun owners who like their open carry.

[QUOTE=Wii60;50670801]oh so possible defamation lawsuit great[/QUOTE] i don't see how, given the situation

They cut off the press conference...

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50670811]Yes, cocked and locked is legal in Texas. You don't need any license to open carry a rifle as long as you are doing so in a nonthreatening way.[/QUOTE] Same here in PA too, minus loaded.

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50670800]It's been legal for years for rifles but I wouldn't want to OC a rifle in the area of an active shooting.[/QUOTE] he probably OC'd before the shooting started

[QUOTE=Kyle902;50670770]You know its funny that these fuckers hate the cops, but then who the fuck do they call when they get mugged. Who do they call if someone's threatening to kill them? Its pure fucking hypocrisy.[/QUOTE] It's anarchy at its finest.

[QUOTE=Saxon;50670815]I've never touched a gun in my life, but doesn't that rifle look a bit inadequate for the damage that was just inflicted?[/QUOTE] Not a sniper's choice but it could get the job done.

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;50670710]Now I don't want to derail the topic, but I want to point out, how the same mindset seen in ISIS publications (They've got a magazine if you didn't know that talks about how cool those guys blowing up for Allah are) can be seen here with people from the US. Ok, there's more black people being shot at by police officers and some of the police officers are white guys who might or not might be completely brutal. That doesn't mean that anyone who's wearing the blue uniform is a "pig" who participates and doesn't give a flying fuck about respecting human rights. Even if the victims were only white officers who completely abused black people, that doesn't strip them of their human rights and doesn't in any mean justify their killings. Just saying "Why should I cry over some quickscoped \what the fuck\ cops?" puts you right up there with that ISIS guy saying "Why should I cry over some frenchies being slain?"[/QUOTE] Anyone who would follow that rhetoric[I] chooses to.[/I] The cops in my town are an organized gang. It's no secret. They also regularly failed pysch exams and this was whitewashed by the company my mother worked for years. The system we have here is literally the typical bad guy movie small town schtick, with no laugh track, and no happy ending. In no way shape or form does that mean that every person whom dons the uniform is a sociopath or psychopath or a hate spewing bigot. This country has 300 million people in it, and 1.4 million of them are a literal thin blue line. They aren't all one thing or another, and anyone who professes that doesn't have anything of substance to say.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50670824]he probably OC'd before the shooting started[/QUOTE] I'm sure, and power to him for that. All I'm saying is I'm surprised he hasn't been detained for questioning like the guy with the vest.

What is this country coming to?

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50670831]I'm sure, and power to him for that. All I'm saying is I'm surprised he hasn't been detained for questioning like the guy with the vest.[/QUOTE] heard he turned his rifle over to the police and went home

[QUOTE=lum1naire;50670734]I'm sick by all of this The reaction this is getting out of some of you in this thread is how black people have felt too with multiple dozens of senseless killings of innocent black people, losing their lives at the hands of cops. Yet every time there has been a thread I see multiples trying to justify it and absolve blame for the officers. This is a sick disgusting act of violence and I hope all of you can perceive that it is never a good thing to let the actions of a few dictate the message of a much larger movement. Just as it isn't good to paint all officers as 'pigs' when officers shoot innocent black people and there is a strong defense for officers and hate for the men killed. See the hypocrisy and hope that this violent situation ends soon. We will never stop perpetuating the cycle of hatred like this. It will continue as long as people do not have the foresight to see the ultimate consequences of their words and actions. We need to stand in solidarity with peaceful protestors and black voices. Police officers need to be able to hold colleagues accountable. Everything needs to change, everyone plays a part in that change. I am pleading that some of you stop letting this instance cloud your judgement on a problem that is very much real. This violence is abhorrent.[/QUOTE] Im inclined to agree. This act is just so so selfish because its going to hurt everyone for a long long time, both for and against these movements. Shit like this helps no one and will only perpetuate the downward spiral. I hope that people do their best to not support that spiral of hatred.

[QUOTE=Saxon;50670815]I've never touched a gun in my life, but doesn't that rifle look a bit inadequate for the damage that was just inflicted?[/QUOTE] Doesn't really matter. The rifle used to kill Kennedy was one of the poorest rifles from WW2. Oswald just had skill and patience

[QUOTE=Saxon;50670815]I've never touched a gun in my life, but doesn't that rifle look a bit inadequate for the damage that was just inflicted?[/QUOTE] 5.56 is a pretty effective round for penetration and wounding. As it enters the body, it fragments into tiny pieces. Plus, it's got a 300-450m effective range. For an urban environment, that's WAY more than enough. [url]http://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/Misc_Images/DocGKR/40052-MilitaryAssaultRifleWPcopy.jpg[/url]

[QUOTE=Daemon White;50670820]They cut off the press conference...[/QUOTE] Why do they keep letting this Mike Pache guy on? They keep cutting off useful information with his uniformly useless broadcasts.

[QUOTE=Saxon;50670815]I've never touched a gun in my life, but doesn't that rifle look a bit inadequate for the damage that was just inflicted?[/QUOTE] An AR-15 was likely used, at least judging by the sound the gunshots made.

[QUOTE=YourBreakfsat;50670834]What is this [del]state[/del]city coming to?[/QUOTE] fixed it

[QUOTE=Saxon;50670815]I've never touched a gun in my life, but doesn't that rifle look a bit inadequate for the damage that was just inflicted?[/QUOTE] depends the user's aim, it can cause alot of hell.

What are they trying to do, start a race war? I'd be surprised if this is related to blm. This has to be some nuts or people who hate the west or something. Why would a citizen kill their own police officers?

Please dont turn this into a gun debate, guys.

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;50670845]Why would a citizen kill their own police officers?[/QUOTE] You'd be surprised.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;50670846]Please dont turn this into a gun debate, guys.[/QUOTE] It's gonna happen. can't fight it no matter how dumb it is to politicize cop killings.

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50670840]An AR-15 was likely used, at least judging by the sound the gunshots made.[/QUOTE] You can't really judge a small arm by the report. An AR-15 will sound the same as any other intermediate cartridge rifle through a microphone. There are a lot of AR-15s in Texas, though. It's not impossible or even unlikely. Just not a good idea to start guessing.

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;50670845]What are they trying to do, start a race war? I'd be surprised if this is related to blm. This has to be some nuts or people who hate the west or something. Why would a citizen kill their own police officers?[/QUOTE] Stupidity, ignorance and hate.

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50670826]Not a sniper's choice but it could get the job done.[/QUOTE] Not to mention in these cases, anyone who's shooting from more than 20 feet away is labelled a sniper.

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;50670845]What are they trying to do, start a race war? I'd be surprised if this is related to blm. This has to be some nuts or people who hate the west or something. Why would a citizen kill their own police officers?[/QUOTE] Being a citizen doesn't imply in any mean respect for others!

[media]https://twitter.com/dennisjromero/status/751267688798793728[/media] Damn, it would suck to be that guy in the middle of all this.

[QUOTE=27X;50670830]Anyone would would follow that rhetoric chooses to. The cops in my town are an organized gang. It's no secret. They also regularly failed pysch exams and this was whitewashed by the company my mother worked for for years. The system we have here is literally the typical bad guy movie small town schtick, with no laugh track, and no happy ending. In no way shape or form does that mean that every person whom dons the uniform is a sociopath or psychopath or a hate spewing bigot. This country has 300 million people in it, and 1.4 million of them are a literal thin blue line. They aren't all one thing or another, and anyone who professes that doesn't have anything of substance to say.[/QUOTE] It's times like this I'm glad I grew up in a town where many of the officers on the force were well-known and friendly with the public, especially with teens. Next town over was a pack of uppity twits in gold-painted police cruisers, but the ones in my town were model officers.

camo ar-15 OC man has turned himself in, probably for his own safety

[QUOTE=Saxon;50670815]I've never touched a gun in my life, but doesn't that rifle look a bit inadequate for the damage that was just inflicted?[/QUOTE] A bullet hits you, you're fucked unless you're real lucky. It's not a video game where an M16 is guaranteed to knock of 20hp. That type of rifle is effective over 500m; The locations in which casualties occurred are well within that distance from each of the shooters' positions.