• BREAKING: Shooting at Black Lives Matter protest in Dallas, TX - Please SOURCE your updates.
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[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50675821]lots of claims and bold statements, 0 proof. tss tss tss[/QUOTE] Fancy you of all people saying that...
[QUOTE=TheTalon;50675860]I don't know why he wants a radical movement against the racist police. 50% of people killed by police last year were white, 25% black. And 90% of violent crime is committed by non whites (When you separate hispanics from whites which the FBI like to throw together) Where's the WLM protests Isn't selective racial outrage fun? The news thinks so[/QUOTE] You gotta give us a source on these claims man.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;50675860]I don't know why he wants a radical movement against the racist police. 50% of people killed by police last year were white, 25% black. And 90% of violent crime is committed by non whites (When you separate hispanics from whites which the FBI like to throw together) Where's the WLM protests Isn't selective racial outrage fun? The news thinks so[/QUOTE] I mean in my opinion it's because harsh subjection of African-Americans by (an) authority is a kind of strain that has been in America since well, ever? I'd say it's one of the biggest contributions to the development of that social-racial identity.
Welp, Dateline ABC just confirmed several shootings of police across the country over cop killings.
[QUOTE=niiiiiiiiok;50675439]I'm sorry, but peaceful movement? Hmmm, I do remember rioting in Ferguson, and in Baltimore. Also the blockages of major highways, one that lead directly to a hospital.[/QUOTE] Blocking highways [I]is[/I] non-violent. It's frustrating and angers a lot of people, but it isn't [I]violent[/I] in exactly the same way that protesters blocking roads in Selma wasn't [I]violent[/I].
I'm glad nobody died when BLM blocked the highway LEADING TO THE FUCKING HOSPITAL They were lucky no ambulances were stopped by those fucks
[QUOTE=RaxaHax;50675798]What would targeting BLM do? The guy wanted a radical movement against the police, so he acted on it, did you expect him to just turn around and start shooting the people he wanted to agree with? That's like a Ku Klux Klan member getting angry that they're just not lynching like they used to, so he shoots up his chapter instead of just.. going his own way with it.[/QUOTE] Why are you asking me? Dude just said the shooter was mad at BLM and I said no?
[QUOTE=.Isak.;50675965]Blocking highways [I]is[/I] non-violent. It's frustrating and angers a lot of people, but it isn't [I]violent[/I] in exactly the same way that protesters blocking roads in Selma wasn't [I]violent[/I].[/QUOTE] What about the fact that they blocked routes that lead to hospitals? If emergency care was needed and they just continued blocking the highway, then someone could've died thanks to them.
Blocking highways and blocking streets are not the same. A highway is considerably more dangerous and there's a significantly higher risk to the public and protestors health when you have pedestrians running out into the highway. Should be considered public endangerment.
[QUOTE=Sharker;50676040]Why are you asking me? Dude just said the shooter was mad at BLM and I said no?[/QUOTE] Yeah? You said 'no' and then I said 'no' to that. I'm pretty sure it's been established that the shooter felt that BLM wasn't taking matters quite the way he wanted them to, so he did it himself; but don't take my word for it: [quote]Brown said Micah Johnson told negotiators that “he was upset about Black Lives Matter, he said he was upset about the recent police shootings. The suspect said he was upset at white people. The suspect stated he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers. The suspect stated he was not affiliated with any groups, and he stated that he did it alone.”[/quote] Now you could argue that 'being upset' isn't the same as violent hostility - it may not even be true, based on context - but was shooting them really the only way to prove either of those?
HRC's twitter is a train wreck right now.
[QUOTE=niiiiiiiiok;50675734]He DIRECTLY said he was killing white cops Fucking bastard is burning in hell for killing cops of any crace[/QUOTE] There is no evidence of there being a hell if anything he ceases to exist anymore. [editline]8th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=unrezt;50676116]HRC's twitter is a train wreck right now.[/QUOTE] The skin heads always come out of the woodwork when ever anything involving another race happens.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;50675965]Blocking highways [I]is[/I] non-violent. It's frustrating and angers a lot of people, but it isn't [I]violent[/I] in exactly the same way that protesters blocking roads in Selma wasn't [I]violent[/I].[/QUOTE] In short, BLM did nothing productive over the course of its existence.
[QUOTE=coldroll5;50676178]There is no evidence of there being a hell if anything he ceases to exist anymore. [editline]8th July 2016[/editline] The skin heads always come out of the woodwork when ever anything involving another race happens.[/QUOTE] People like to think of hell existing when someone they despise is killed. It allows them to feel like justice has been served.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;50675646]Where's the proof that his campaign took his twitter away?[/QUOTE] The tweet has a word with more than two syllables in it, and doesn't sound like he was rolling his face across his keyboard to type the fucking thing.
[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50676223]People like to think of hell existing when someone they despise is killed. It allows them to feel like justice has been served.[/QUOTE] I know.
[QUOTE=RzDat;50676213]In short, BLM did nothing productive over the course of its existence.[/QUOTE] It raised enough attention/hell to encourage a number of departments to actually invest in body cameras to try and have some form of accountability when their officers are out and about. That seems pretty productive.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;50675965]Blocking highways [I]is[/I] non-violent. It's frustrating and angers a lot of people, but it isn't [I]violent[/I] in exactly the same way that protesters blocking roads in Selma wasn't [I]violent[/I].[/QUOTE] Couldn't blocking roads during an emergency be seen as culpable manslaughter if someone died because of it?
[QUOTE=RzDat;50676213]In short, BLM did nothing productive over the course of its existence.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's 100% what I said. Because the only thing BLM has ever done is block roads. I analyzed [i]every single BLM protest going back to August of last year[/i] in an earlier comment in a different thread and 79 of them were at police stations, jails, courthouses, city halls, capitol buildings, and government offices. About 35-something involved street blockages - though many fewer were highway blockages. The Ferguson protests also led to the Justice Department investigating the city of Ferguson and uncovering unbelievably blatant racial profiling and outright corruption in the municipal courts and police department, which in turn led to legislators in the state of Missouri making legal changes to prevent municipal courts from financially preying on their citizens. Many police departments have adopted body cameras in response to these types of protests. They've accomplished quite a bit of respectable stuff. You can criticize them in many areas, absolutely - but don't outright deny the positive things they've accomplished and don't be ignorant about it. You have the internet. Use it.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;50676249]It raised enough attention/hell to encourage a number of departments to actually invest in body cameras to try and have some form of accountability when their officers are out and about. That seems pretty productive.[/QUOTE] They need a new body camera that's harder to take off or fall off that would make a massive difference. They also need new training to not single out minorities as well.
[QUOTE=coldroll5;50676254]Couldn't blocking roads during an emergency be seen as culpable manslaughter if someone died because of it?[/QUOTE] Sure, and I don't support blocking roads, especially highways, and I think it's very poor targeting, but it isn't [i]violent[/i]. Violence implies direct action - you aren't "violently stuck in traffic" if an ambulance can't get through because the road is backed up from a bridge collapse or something. Besides, the entire ambulance concern was a hypothetical - [I]it never happened[/I] - and it assumes that protesters wouldn't have gotten out of the way for an ambulance.
[QUOTE=coldroll5;50676262]They need a new body camera that's harder to take off or fall off that would make a massive difference. They also need new training to not single out minorities as well.[/QUOTE] I propose we integrate computer hardware into our police forces. If there are ethical concerns about performing this on live officers, we shall use the deceased or irreparably disabled. They can continue to serve their community and will have an unwavering sense of justice based on the laws of the country and not their opinions. We'll have a constant feed of what they see, and their aim will be so immaculate that casualties will be a thing of the past. [editline]edited[/editline] We should trial it in Detroit though. I have a good feeling about that place.
As BLM gets worse and worse eventually people will start calling them a terrorist organisation. I'd recommend starting a new movement, a fresh start and disassociate from these people entirely. With less of what we've seen up to this point maybe we can get it right this time, learn from mistakes.
How? If its a headless movement then there is no filter. If it isnt then that leader would fight for legitimacy against blm, especially since claim blm devolving into terrorism as the new movement's source of legitimacy would be hypothetical and still is.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;50676289]I propose we integrate computer hardware into our police forces. If there are ethical concerns about performing this on live officers, we shall use the deceased or irreparably disabled. They can continue to serve their community and will have an unwavering sense of justice based on the laws of the country and not their opinions. We'll have a constant feed of what they see, and their aim will be so immaculate that casualties will be a thing of the past. [editline]edited[/editline] We should trial it in Detroit though. I have a good feeling about that place.[/QUOTE] we'll call it mechanopopo
[QUOTE=BioWaster;50676310]As BLM gets worse and worse eventually people will start calling them a terrorist organisation. I'd recommend starting a new movement, a fresh start and disassociate from these people entirely. With less of what we've seen up to this point maybe we can get it right this time, learn from mistakes.[/QUOTE] lmao people are really going to start calling it a terrorist organisation now? no wonder movements like BLM exist in the first place
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50676423]lmao people are really going to start calling it a terrorist organisation now? no wonder movements like BLM exist in the first place[/QUOTE] well yes the skinheads are going to.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50676423]lmao people are really going to start calling it a terrorist organisation now? no wonder movements like BLM exist in the first place[/QUOTE] BLM honestly is a pretty horrible group. Just look at how they handle atrocities committed to other groups- like the vigil.
[url]http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/07/08/dallas-police-protest-shooting/[/url] Shooter was using an SKS along with a yet to be identified handgun. For those who don't know US gunlaws an SKS doesn't qualify an assault weapon across all states. It has a fixed 10 round magazine, however it can be modified to use higher capacity magazines that are iffy on reliability and can't really be changed quickly.
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;50676487]BLM honestly is a pretty horrible group. Just look at how they handle atrocities committed to other groups- like the vigil.[/QUOTE] You do know that was a single guy and not an organized event?
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