• Bernie Sanders cut short after 'Black Lives Matter' takeover rally
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[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;48416530] I want someone to try and actually have an intelligent discussion with her and film it, because I can already see Chernobyl levels of radioactive stupid emanating from her.[/QUOTE] "Here are statistics that disprove your basis on the matter." "NUH UR YOUR A WHITE MALE YOU DONT GET AN OPINION ON THIS NOW STOP OPRESSING MY PEOPLE YOU RACIST SEXIST PIG #BLACKLIVESMATTER"
[QUOTE=Zeke129;48418290]The [i]majority[/i] of GG just complains about SJWs and feminists. Go to the thread here, go to Kotatuinaction, go to 8chan. See how many pages you need to flip through before you find thoughtful discussion on videogame journalism ethics.[/QUOTE] i mean pretty much all of it was and still is discussion on video game journalism ethics, but i guess that doesnt fit your worldview or smth
I swear to god if bernie sanders keeps having rallies interrupted by a few people who say that are "a part" of Black Lives matter. Something is up. Also, this clears up a lot of bullshit [QUOTE][url]https://www.facebook.com/ajplusenglish/videos/600271863447658/[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zeke129;48418290]The [i]majority[/i] of GG just complains about SJWs and feminists. Go to the thread here, go to Kotatuinaction, go to 8chan. See how many pages you need to flip through before you find thoughtful discussion on videogame journalism ethics. This, on the other hand, was two people harassing Sanders. A total of a dozen or so people acting like idiots under the banner of a hashtag anyone can use is extraordinarily good considering the track record of most internet-organized protests.[/QUOTE] Are you for real? [editline]a[/editline] Hasn't this happened at his previous rallies with even more people?
Something about Hillary always seemed off to me and it's starting to make sense.
sad state of affairs when your entire movement is based off of a criminal being shot for reaching for a cops gun. maybe put your movement behind someone who was actually, wrongfully shot by the police?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;48418290]The [i]majority[/i] of GG just complains about SJWs and feminists. Go to the thread here, go to Kotatuinaction, go to 8chan. See how many pages you need to flip through before you find thoughtful discussion on videogame journalism ethics. This, on the other hand, was two people harassing Sanders. A total of a dozen or so people acting like idiots under the banner of a hashtag anyone can use is extraordinarily good considering the track record of most internet-organized protests.[/QUOTE] You want to know why GamerGate continues to speaks about Zoe Quinn and Brianna Wu and all those people and not the journalists? Because they're the ones with the audacity to continue speaking, meanwhile the journalists were told to shut the fuck up by their bosses before they dig the hole any deeper while addressing the reader's concerns. It's a culture war because they made it one. Look at what they did with Gawker's advertisers, and now they're doing the same to Vox. At least GamerGate has a clear message and objective and a way to achieve that goal. I still don't understand what yelling "black lives matter" at students on university campuses will accomplish. What I really don't understand is why they're yelling at the one guy who has been talking about the importance of police accountability and redundancy systems for years.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;48419310]sad state of affairs when your entire movement is based off of a criminal being shot for reaching for a cops gun. maybe put your movement behind someone who was actually, wrongfully shot by the police?[/QUOTE] While it does irritate me when they base part of it on a justified shooting, there have been wrongful shootings they have stood against. I just don't understand why they only pick on the only guy who actually supports them... Of course it isn't the entire BLM movement, but some of these people are either ignorant dipshits or they are on Hillary's payroll.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;48418290]The [i]majority[/i] of GG just complains about SJWs and feminists. Go to the thread here, go to Kotatuinaction, go to 8chan. See how many pages you need to flip through before you find thoughtful discussion on videogame journalism ethics. This, on the other hand, was two people harassing Sanders. A total of a dozen or so people acting like idiots under the banner of a hashtag anyone can use is extraordinarily good considering the track record of most internet-organized protests.[/QUOTE] Just went to Kotakuinaction. And saw that the front page had several articles discussing ethics in Journalism. And most of the threads talking about SJW's were discussing articles written by SJW's smearing gamergate as an anti woman hate movement. It's almost as if when a group of people constantly inject themselves into a conversation they'll be talked about. weird
[QUOTE=Zeke129;48418290]The [i]majority[/i] of GG just complains about SJWs and feminists. Go to the thread here, go to Kotatuinaction, go to 8chan. See how many pages you need to flip through before you find thoughtful discussion on videogame journalism ethics. This, on the other hand, was two people harassing Sanders. A total of a dozen or so people acting like idiots under the banner of a hashtag anyone can use is extraordinarily good considering the track record of most internet-organized protests.[/QUOTE] [t]http://i.imgur.com/tLgdXuo.png[/t] Damn dude, look at all of this non-ethics!
i'm not surprised this caused the brogressives to turn on BLM entirely, they are incredibly fickle and will throw you to the dogs the moment they feel offended by the movements they supposedly support.
[url]http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/08/09/black-lives-matter-protesters-briefly-block-se-portland-street/31388649/[/url] Not sure if good news or bad news, but If they interfere with Bernies biggest rally in portland, the black lives matter movement is simply over, will be regarded as a joke movement. At this point with all the bad reputation, the BLM should actually endorse Bernie Sanders. Bernie has heard the BLM, Bernie has addressed the BLM, Bernie even hired someone from it. What more do the BLM activists want?
[QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;48419970]brogressives[/QUOTE] What the hell does this even mean? And no shit people aren't being sympathetic toward a group of people who keep interrupting and hijacking the rallies of a candidate who [I]wants the same fucking things as them[/I]
[QUOTE=Toyokunari;48420108][url]http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/08/09/black-lives-matter-protesters-briefly-block-se-portland-street/31388649/[/url] Not sure if good news or bad news, but If they interfere with Bernies biggest rally in portland, the black lives matter movement is simply over. At this point with all the bad reputation, the BLM should actually endorse Bernie Sanders. Bernie has heard the BLM, Bernie has addressed the BLM, Bernie even hired someone from it. What more do the BLM activists want?[/QUOTE] If the BLM crowd does the right thing this could be a historic moment. I have to hope that with his official stance on the issues important to BLM on his website and the new press secretary that they will finally show some semblance of support. The only alternative to that is total embarrassment of the movement at this point. They said it wasn't just about Sanders but it clearly has been.
[QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;48419970]i'm not surprised this caused the brogressives to turn on BLM entirely, they are incredibly fickle and will throw you to the dogs the moment they feel offended by the movements they supposedly support.[/QUOTE] Brogressive? Seriously? Can you speak like a normal person so we don't have to look up the definition on someone's Tumblr account? [url]http://seriouslystfubrogressives.tumblr.com/whatisabrogressive[/url] [quote]A Brogressive is a person- usually male- who considers themselves left wing and is quite progressive on all issues except ones to do with gender. Seriously, STFU Brogressives is a site that will highlight their sexist bullshit.[/quote] Anyways, anyone with any sense has been against BLM since the start due to the fact that they've exploited the mob mentality with very little research and justification in what they've been doing. BLM is a nice sentiment, a bumper sticker, something you wear on a hat, maybe even something you'd put on a sign when you're protesting within a group with a clear objective and cause. As a movement? What does shouting black lives matter do to improve the situation for minorities in this country? I don't see the point in shouting at people who already agree with you. In my opinion, BLM has caused regression rather than progression when it comes to race in our society. Those were are racist continue to be racist and feel justified in their beliefs due to the bullshit they see and read about on a near daily basis. Pretty much everyone on the social right sees the left cannibalizing themselves. Those who are not racist but get yelled at and preached to are annoyed and now resent such "progressive" groups after being told they're racist bigoted shitlords. We're now in a situation where it's liberals versus liberals all over the matter of race, when I'm pretty sure they were on the same side until these progressive groups drew a line in the sand and said "you're with our overzealous and inflammatory methods or you are against us". It's nonsensical and unnecessary vitriol.
[QUOTE=Velocet;48420186] In my opinion, BLM has caused regression rather than progression when it comes to race in our society. Those were are racist continue to be racist and feel justified in their beliefs due to the bullshit they see and read about on a near daily basis. Those who are not racist but get yelled at and preached to are annoyed and now resent such "progressive" groups after being told they're racist bigoted shitlords. [/QUOTE] I think this is a little too early to say that. They have definitely regressed a ton since their climax of popularity but I think there is still room for the movement to take on a new form and actually integrate itself with communities that have the power to help. The issue honestly seems to be as petty as radicals that want airtime/fame. Since the movement is "grassroots" it seems regardless of motive the actions of these radicals are unjustly praised by the majority of the BLM community who are caught up in the moment.
[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;48420143]What the hell does this even mean? And no shit people aren't being sympathetic toward a group of people who keep interrupting and hijacking the rallies of a candidate who [I]wants the same fucking things as them[/I][/QUOTE] i googled it for you. [QUOTE]Politically liberal or left-leaning person who routinely downplays injustices against women and other marginalized groups in favor of some cause they deem more important.[/QUOTE] fits a lot of people here, but that's as far as i'm going in this thread
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;48420210]I think this is a little too early to say that. They have definitely regressed a ton since their climax of popularity but I think there is still room for the movement to take on a new form and actually integrate itself with communities that have the power to help. The issue honestly seems to be as petty as radicals that want airtime/fame. Since the movement is "grassroots" it seems regardless of motive the actions of these radicals are unjustly praised by the majority of the BLM community who are caught up in the moment.[/QUOTE] Fair enough, I guess we'll just have to wait and see, but as someone who has witnessed this happen with "grassroots" campaigns like Occupy Wall Street, it seems like the radicals are going to co-opt a legitimate/noble cause and push their crazy bullshit until everyone goes home. I'm just surprised that the "official group" isn't speaking out against it since OCW didn't have nearly as much organization/social media infrastructure to send out the message that such behavior is not okay. [editline]10th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;48420226]i googled it for you. fits a lot of people here, but that's as far as i'm going in this thread[/QUOTE] No, stay, I want to hear someone rationalize and make me understand the mentality of these people who stole the microphone from Bernie Sanders, threatened to shut down the event if it wasn't absolutely silent, a rally for a man who was arrested for conducting peaceful protests during the civil rights movement 50 years ago, marched with Martin Luther King Jr and has decades of political experience along with social activism [b]and continues to speak about the importance of police accountability and wealth distribution[/b] while Hilary Clinton, a woman who worked for a man who was against equal rights back in the 1960s goes completely unscathed.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ2K8R76cD4[/url] Live feed Portland Oregon.
[QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;48420226]i googled it for you. fits a lot of people here, but that's as far as i'm going in this thread[/QUOTE] "I want to make broad-sweeping and unsubstantiated claims against a large group of people but can't be arsed to stick around to back up my point or provide explanations" You continue to dodge the fact that Bernie [I]supports[/I] the causes that BLM endorses, and [I]has done so for years.[/I] There's nothing "brogressive" about that, or the people who are getting fed up with attention-seeking idiots.
[QUOTE=Velocet;48420229]words[/QUOTE] you're going to have to find another user for that bro, since i'm not justifying what they did.if they just wanted to shout at some old white dude then by all means, don't do it under the guise of a legitimate movement though, you just make everyone look bad. i'm just saying that people (the american left, because the right was never a fan to begin with) turned on BLM so easily because they are fickle and willing to turn on you the moment you don't play on their time and on their rules.. it only took two women to redefine an entire social movement as a "regression , not a progression". it only took two women for people to demonize an entire movement. but hey Americans trivialize political movements all the time so who give a shit, it happened with occupy wall street, it still happens to feminism and even the tea party (before it went completely bonkers at least) has the same thing happen to them. all it takes is one person and we are back a step fucking one.
calling potential allies "brogressive" instead of working to educate and change their views seems a lot like a tactic that would fit well in a book called "Alienate and Vilify, or How to Lose Majority Support While Securing the Undying Approval of the Elite Few. With foreword by L. Ron Hubbard and David Koresh"
brogressives are awesome allies to minority and civil rights causes as long as it's on their time and on their schedule. And never ever piss them off, because if they feel an inch disrespected they will at the least disconnect from the cause and at worse turn on minorities completely. A brogressive is not an ally you want on any social movement really.
[QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;48420468]brogressives are awesome allies to minority and civil rights causes as long as it's on their time and on their schedule. And never ever piss them off, because if they feel an inch disrespected they will at the least disconnect from the cause and at worse turn on minorities completely. A brogressive is not an ally you want on any social movement really.[/QUOTE]This is hilariously elitist about all these "brogressives". Its utterly pathetic and god I love it. I like to think of them as "Not stupid enough to blindly support a cause just because the cause makes itself sound good."
[QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;48420468]brogressives are awesome allies to minority and civil rights causes as long as it's on their time and on their schedule. And never ever piss them off, because if they feel an inch disrespected they will at the least disconnect from the cause and at worse turn on minorities completely. A brogressive is not an ally you want on any social movement really.[/QUOTE] We already have a term for what you're describing in this post. It's called being a social justice warrior
[QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;48420468]brogressives are awesome allies to minority and civil rights causes as long as it's on their time and on their schedule. And never ever piss them off, because if they feel an inch disrespected they will at the least disconnect from the cause and at worse turn on minorities completely. A brogressive is not an ally you want on any social movement really.[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;DFeDFva6tcg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFeDFva6tcg[/video]
Honestly this brogressive thing just seems like a way to categorise people who disagree with you. "Yeah you're quite liberal on a lot of issues, but not about the things I care about, so you're just a brogressive!"
[QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;48420468]brogressives are awesome allies to minority and civil rights causes as long as it's on their time and on their schedule. And never ever piss them off, because if they feel an inch disrespected they will at the least disconnect from the cause and at worse turn on minorities completely. A brogressive is not an ally you want on any social movement really.[/QUOTE] Sounds like most of facepunch [QUOTE=Melkor;48420519]We already have a term for what you're describing in this post. It's called being a social justice warrior[/QUOTE] hahahahahahahahaha
[QUOTE=Melkor;48420519]We already have a term for what you're describing in this post. It's called being a social justice warrior[/QUOTE] two sides of the same coin. but no, a sjw would probably not fit into that description
[QUOTE=1legmidget;48416687]Bernie just posted [URL="https://berniesanders.com/issues/racial-justice/"]this[/URL] on his website.[/QUOTE] I wonder if he's in favour of increasing Law Enforcement funding at all. Because a lot of what he's asking for would require money, and police departments are often strapped for cash.
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