343 Industries (Halo 4 Creators) Threaten Permabans for Sexist Comments - Polidicks

[QUOTE=The Pretender;38279168]But it's perfectly okay for women to make sexist jokes on men, just not the other way around. - Women[/QUOTE] poor men [editline]1[/editline] I am literally crying

[QUOTE=The Pretender;38279168]But it's perfectly okay for women to make sexist jokes on men, just not the other way around. - Women[/QUOTE] why are you

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;38279110]They've already added a mute system and if I remember correctly, repeatedly harassing people will get you a temporary ban from xbox live.[/QUOTE] yes, but not for sexism, which is why they're doing it themselves. you would know this if you read the op before defiantly commenting about your god given right to be a cunt online

[QUOTE=Kopimi;38279158]- white male who isn't harassed consistently online god forbid people are punished for being utter cunts in an online social setting. clearly having some regulation for your conduct in a multiplayer video game will be the downfall of society and free speech[/QUOTE] punished with a permaban? you're okay with this?

[QUOTE=The Pretender;38279168]But it's perfectly okay for women to make sexist jokes on men, just not the other way around. - Women[/QUOTE] when are you ever put down for being a male in the current social norm of society

[QUOTE=The Pretender;38279168]But it's perfectly okay for women to make sexist jokes on men, just not the other way around. - Women[/QUOTE] nobody says this [editline]1st November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;38279195]punished with a permaban? you're okay with this?[/QUOTE] for repeated offenses yeah i'm fine with it. it's a private developer enforcing their own rules in their own game while you play their product using online services they provided. if you disagree with these rules and don't want to risk getting in trouble for being a twat either don't be a twat or don't buy the game

[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;38279195]punished with a permaban? you're okay with this?[/QUOTE] Probably a permanent ban in extreme cases, and from this game specifically. And you can always make a new live account. But by that time hopefully you will have toned down your comments I mean have you ever played a game with girls in it on voice chat? It's exactly like the article says. That sucks for them, being denied voice chat just to stay under the radar and not be harassed.

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[QUOTE=Aidan_088;38279063]This is ridiculous; why focus on sexism and ignore homophobia and racism? People shouldn't be banned for saying things society finds offensive or distasteful and besides the muting system already present within most online games already fixes this problem anyway.[/QUOTE] a) they'll probably focus on it as well b) gay insults on semi annonymous games rarely targeted. No one actually knows that you are gay, unless you go and directly tell it to people. In that sense they are derogatory but it's like shooting blanks. On the other hand, harass insults, direct ganking up on someone because of gender is often very targeted and the person who gets targeted often only speaks out aloud anything. But a permaban is still far too strong. A removal of Voice and messaging privilege for xyz time would be far better imho. [QUOTE=The Pretender;38279168]But it's perfectly okay for women to make sexist jokes on men, just not the other way around. - Women[/QUOTE] If you had a woman that actively went out of her way to stalk, harass, insult and who knows what else members of the opposite gender, the treatment should be the same. And would possibly be as well. The thing is, that is fairly rare in online videogames populated by 15-somethings who haven't passed trough their cooties, but turns me on, phase yet.

I like that they are doing this, but it is kind of hypocritical to fight sexism in video games when they made Cortana have like a million times more boob, etc. Eh, you have to pick your battles.

[QUOTE=Trogdon;38279253]Probably a permanent ban in extreme cases, and from this game specifically. And you can always make a new live account. But by that time hopefully you will have toned down your comments I mean have you ever played a game with girls in it on voice chat? It's exactly like the article says. That sucks for them, being denied voice chat just to stay under the radar and not be harassed.[/QUOTE] i always run into girls when i'm playing css, tf2, l4d, and CoD and i have yet to see one legitimately be harassed

[QUOTE=wraithcat;38279302]a) they'll probably focus on it as well b) gay insults on semi annonymous games rarely targeted. No one actually knows that you are gay, unless you go and directly tell it to people. In that sense they are derogatory but it's like shooting blanks. On the other hand, harass insults, direct ganking up on someone because of gender is often very targeted and the person who gets targeted often only speaks out aloud anything. But a permaban is still far too strong. A removal of Voice and messaging privilege for xyz time would be far better imho.[/QUOTE] hey dude a permaban is pretty well-deserved you're gonna act continually disrespectful and rude; you have every right to appeal it as well once you realize that you're being a emotionally inept and socially awkward asshole [QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;38279327]i always run into girls when i'm playing css, tf2, l4d, and CoD and i have yet to see one legitimately be harassed[/QUOTE] thx for the update dude but this really adds nothing to the plate

I don't know why some of you guys are complaining, are you the type that go around and say this shit?

[QUOTE=Bradyns;38279140]Read their code of conduct before commenting:[/QUOTE] what about Pansexual? Or hell, saying Homosexual?

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;38279093]It enforces and spreads the shit we should be trying to get rid of.[/QUOTE] I don't know about you but I'm kind of against getting rid of ideas and opinions, even if I disagree with them. [editline]Hold on[/editline] I mean, sexists, racists, etc. are fucking stupid, but anything even remotely similar to punishing people for their thoughts is an immediate red light for me. [editline]Yet another[/editline] But I'm [b]not[/b] disagreeing with 343 Industries, though I think a permaban is a little harsh. Harassment and trolling are a far cry from just expressing opinions.

Yeah if you are not a shithead, this new rule literally has no effect upon your existence.

[QUOTE=Ownederd;38279350]hey dude a permaban is pretty well-deserved you're gonna act continually disrespectful and rude; you have every right to appeal it as well once you realize that you're being a emotionally inept and socially awkward asshole thx for the update dude but this really adds nothing to the plate[/QUOTE] i was answering his (probably rhetorical but whatevs) question but good job you sure showed me who's boss

[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;38279327]i always run into girls when i'm playing css, tf2, l4d, and CoD and i have yet to see one legitimately be harassed[/QUOTE] sweet then i guess we don't have to worry about many permabans! :)

this is cool but a permaban? Grow some skin damnit While it's good that seems a bit harsh, considering you know, that fucks them over too much. not only that but report spamming groups.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;38279429]sweet then i guess we don't have to worry about many permabans! :)[/QUOTE] not to mention the xbox live community is so much different from the PC game community like are you joking right now

I really think 343 should be the arbiter of what people say on the game that they purchased for 60$

[QUOTE=J!NX;38279440]this is cool but a permaban? Grow some skin damnit While it's good that seems a bit harsh[/QUOTE] how is it harsh if you have the right to revoke it by appealing it once you grow up a bit

Automatic perma-ban whenever the word "ho" is in the chat. :v: "Hey everyone, how's-" *ban*

[QUOTE=Kopimi;38279454]not to mention the xbox live community is so much different from the PC game community like are you joking right now[/QUOTE] don't pull that bullshit there are an equal amount of assholes all across the gaming spectrum

[QUOTE=zakedodead;38279460]I really think 343 should be the arbiter of what people say on the game that they purchased for 60$[/QUOTE] i really think you shouldn't buy this game for $60 if you plan on being sexist

[QUOTE=Nikita;38279476]Automatic perma-ban whenever the word "ho" is in the chat. :v: "Hey everyone, how's-" *ban*[/QUOTE] Remember how on Facepunch we could not say snigger? That was hilarious

[QUOTE=Ownederd;38279473]how is it harsh if you have the right to revoke it by appealing it once you grow up a bit[/QUOTE] something tells me this shit will be either very good, or people will be screwed over completely. They did you know... pay 60$ for it.

[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;38279481]don't pull that bullshit there are an equal amount of assholes all across the gaming spectrum[/QUOTE] yeah but why are you using your experience in specific because it doesn't represent the current social issue of sexist discrimination in computer games

[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;38279481]don't pull that bullshit there are an equal amount of assholes all across the gaming spectrum[/QUOTE] uh no sorry the xbox live community is undeniably more annoying and aggressive than the PC gaming community simply because its more accessible. you can deny it all you want but anyone that is being completely honest knows consoles have way more angry little children than PCs just because consoles are the de facto children's gift and gaming PCs arent