• Four Chicago teens in custody after livestreaming kidnap and torture of disabled person
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[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51625597]Even though it is fucking retarded, I did.[/QUOTE] It's not retarded. It's a situation that could easily happen and I think it's pretty obvious how it would play out in comparison.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51625597]Even though it is fucking retarded, I did.[/QUOTE] Is it possible for you to put yourself in another person's shoes? Can you try just for a moment, to see how you would feel if this kid was black? Look at yourself. Look at the loops you're jumping through with your hate crime technicalities and semantics. Its actually embarrassing.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51625632]Is it possible for you to put yourself in another person's shoes? Can you try just for a moment, to see how you would feel if this kid was black? Look at yourself. Look at the loops you're jumping through with your hate crime technicalities and semantics. Its actually embarrassing.[/QUOTE] Ironically it's the right thats generally against hate crime laws.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51625657]Ironically it's the right thats generally against hate crime laws.[/QUOTE] Im not sure what that has to do with what he said.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51625657]Ironically it's the right thats generally against hate crime laws.[/QUOTE] I'm against the idea of hate crimes, but that doesn't mean I can't point out inconsistencies in those who do think it's a good idea.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51625657]Ironically it's the right thats generally against hate crime laws.[/QUOTE] I am against them. But as long as they're on the books, they need to be enforced fairly.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;51625662]Im not sure what that has to do with what he said nor how its ironic.[/QUOTE] He is complaining about hate crime technicalities and semantics when all Trebgarta did was link the law. Presumably he thinks hate crimes should be more easy to prosecute. btw did you notice the post I made at the top of the page? [editline]5th January 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=sgman91;51625666]I'm against the idea of hate crimes, but that doesn't mean I can't point out inconsistencies in those who do think it's a good idea.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Pantz Master;51625670]I am against them. But as long as they're on the books, they need to be enforced fairly.[/QUOTE] Well those semantics and technicalities are part of enforcing the law.
Imagine if this was 4 white people doing this to a black mentally disabled person, the news would go crazy OR 4 Trump supporters doing this to a mentally disabled Hillary supporter [I]double standards[/I]
[QUOTE=vrej;51625684]Imagine if this was 4 white people doing this to a black mentally disabled person, the news would go crazy OR 4 Trump supporters doing this to a mentally disabled Hillary supporter [I]double standards[/I][/QUOTE] I honestly think they can't comprehend what the reaction would be if the tables were turned. They keep dodging this question.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51625691]I honestly think they can't comprehend what the reaction would be if the tables were turned. They keep dodging this question.[/QUOTE] It hasn't been dodged, I tackled it on page 2. I would personally react the same way. The media is already going crazy with this story. Who's adopting the double standards in vrej's hypothetical world?
It's an instant lose argument for them and they know it. The public would be absolutely hysterical.
Guys, I don't know what you are talking about. Their is no media double standard. [img]https://i.sli.mg/9NNwY7.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=MadPro119;51625703]Guys, I don't know what you are talking about. Their is no media double standard. [/QUOTE] thumbnail tags my man. Also mass shootings get more national coverage than local murders.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51625716]thumbnail tags my man. Also mass shootings get more national coverage than local murders.[/QUOTE] Come on everyone knows what would have happened if any of these incidents where the other way around and like I said before DOUBLE STANDARDS.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51625696]It's an instant lose argument for them and they know it. The public would be absolutely hysterical.[/QUOTE] Who are you even talking to dude If the roles were reversed there'd be a huge outcry. Currently, there seems to be a huge outcry. Yes the scales would vary.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51625723]Who are you even talking to dude If the roles were reversed there'd be a huge outcry. Currently, there seems to be a huge outcry. Yes the scales would vary.[/QUOTE] The scales would be off the charts on the flip side. Atleast two people would banned for sniping my name out in that thread for me to attest to what happen. I can already imagine it easily now. :pudge:
[QUOTE=MadPro119;51625703]Guys, I don't know what you are talking about. Their is no media double standard. [/QUOTE] i figured that the media cherry picking what they report something that's well established already imo i believe the problem the black community faces in these neighborhoods aren't policemen or white people, but themselves. pretty sure there was an article not too long ago talking about how Chicago has such a high murder rate, because of gang violence.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51625744]The scales would be off the charts on the flip side. Atleast two people would banned for sniping my name out in that thread for me to attest to what happen. I can already imagine it easily now. :pudge:[/QUOTE] Yes the scales would differ. Because the scale of what black people have gone through in the US is quite different, thus the reaction would be. I condemn any and all riots or violent actions but here in this thread I've been told categorically my ideology is a violent one. Yes there's a clear disparity in reactions and that does bother me but it's not really an excuse to condemn an entire group the way you are.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51625723]Who are you even talking to dude If the roles were reversed there'd be a huge outcry. Currently, there seems to be a huge outcry. Yes the scales would vary.[/QUOTE] Clearly not. The only reason this is getting any attention is because they were stupid enough to actually record themselves and post it on the internet. It's honestly incredibly ignorant to try and spin some mental gymnastics to say otherwise, especially with the "racial climate" these past years.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51625757]Yes the scales would differ. Because the scale of what black people have gone through in the US is quite different, thus the reaction would be. I condemn any and all riots or violent actions but here in this thread I've been told categorically my ideology is a violent one. Yes there's a clear disparity in reactions and that does bother me but it's not really an excuse to condemn an entire group the way you are.[/QUOTE] I assume you're referring to me, but you're totally strawmanning my argument. I've been very clear about the non black and white nature of "violent" and "not violent" when it comes to generalized ideologies.
Mumkey Jones already did a satirical vid on this whole argument. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmopGZAlkns[/media]
I dunno who was making those arguments but it was certainly no one in this thread.
what the actual flipping fuck Carpet bomb of Chicago and Detroit when?
I seriously feel shit like the poop swastika and random poorly sprayed graffiti had a shitload of comments about white trumpsters violently overrunning minorities, even after being proven false people still kept going "uh so what if it's fake, this could REALLY HAPPEN someday". Then actual video evidence of black people attacking a white guy, being racist and saying fuck trump happens. Raidyr, bitches and company shrug their shoulders. "You can't prove this was racist or political lolololol"
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[QUOTE=ColdAsRice;51626212]. Raidyr, bitches and company shrug their shoulders. "You can't prove this was racist or political lolololol"[/QUOTE] Meanwhile 9 hours ago [QUOTE=Raidyr;51624248] [B][I][U]I think racially motivated is a pretty reasonable assumption to make[/U][/I][/B]. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EddieLTU;51625535]effin Black Lives Matter[/QUOTE] They're not really involved here?
[QUOTE=MadPro119;51625703]Guys, I don't know what you are talking about. Their is no media double standard. [img]https://i.sli.mg/9NNwY7.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] It's almost like serial/spree killers are more newsworthy than random shootings. When was the last widely reported on white on black killing that didn't involve a police officer and wasn't part of a larger spree.
The attacks on Muslims following 9/11 had nothing to do with anti-muslim sentiment, guys!
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51625597]Even though it is fucking retarded, I did.[/QUOTE] Can you at least try not to look like the apologist for every bad thing a minority does?
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