Mass Effect fan makes 400-page rewrite of Mass Effect 3
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I know the ending wasn't the best but do diehard Mass Effect fans treat it as cancer all the time or
[QUOTE=Swilly;43610238]Just because its not my cup of tea I'm not going to banish it and call it worthless like I know exactly what good literature is.[/QUOTE]
I know what good literature isn't
and it certainly isn't second rate fanfiction rehash
a rehash of a storyline that wasn't exactly 'good literature' in any sense of the meaning to begin with
[QUOTE=IceyMalone;43610452]I know the ending wasn't the best but do diehard Mass Effect fans treat it as cancer all the time or[/QUOTE]
I dunno about cancer, but the ending did effectively kill the series badly enough that nothing short of a totally new story in that universe will gain interest now. Most people were just heavily invested in the series though; after five years, THAT was the ending we got, and it was all the more frustrating given the majority of Mass Effect 3 was actually pretty solid.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;43606874]how can you obsess over something as average as Mass Effect from a narrative point of view.[/QUOTE]
The first one set up a cool original universe with tons of potential, then EA fucked with it and ruined everything.
[QUOTE=JustGman;43612024]The first one set up a cool original universe with tons of potential, then EA fucked with it and ruined everything.[/QUOTE]
EA might have fucked with some of it, but to be honest I put most of the responsibility on Bioware themselves, especially when it comes to the narrative.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;43610699]I dunno about cancer, but the ending did effectively kill the series badly enough that nothing short of a totally new story in that universe will gain interest now. Most people were just heavily invested in the series though; after five years, THAT was the ending we got, and it was all the more frustrating given the majority of Mass Effect 3 was actually pretty solid.[/QUOTE]
Eh, the gameplay was very solid, but a lot of the writing was pretty stupid. EDI/Joker romance for no apparent reason, reapers who have the combined intelligence of an entire species are easily lured into obvious traps, Kai Leng's presence in general. Overall I still enjoyed the game, but I got it a while after the whole ending fiasco played out on the internet, so I was expecting worse.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;43606936]would you say the same thing about a 400 page MLP erotica?[/QUOTE]
That analogy doesn't work, you're comparing two entirely different forms of literature and basing the dedication of fans off of that analogy.
Now, I read this guy's re-write. Some of his ideas are great. His endings actually make sense.
[QUOTE=DeeCeeTeeBee;43607392]B
Planescape: Torment is essentially "you are good guys these are bad guys kill bad guys"
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I take offense to this. In part because the concept of good, bad, moral and immoral is muddle in planescape from the very beginning. Which is somewhat to be expected from a game where you wake up in a morgue with a smacktalking floating skull calling you boss.
[QUOTE=JustGman;43612024]The first one set up a cool original universe with tons of potential, then EA fucked with it and ruined everything.[/QUOTE]
Considering what goes on in ME2, I think this failing is pretty much bioware's own. Just think what kind of plot advancements happen in that game.
It doesn't help that they advanced Mac Walters, a dialogue writer in ME2, to Lead Writer in ME3. A guy who knew nothing about coherent plot-lines was suddenly given total control of the game's writing and storyline.
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My fuckin' automerge, wraithcat you ninja
Read it through.
Pretty nice, all told. I like how creepy the control ending was.
I'd play a ME3 based off this in a heartbeart. It's got it's flaws, but it's pretty solid all told.
[sp]No Shepard, you are the reapers. Yes, this is legit spoilers for the document.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Geiger;43607970]I think he should stick to writing :v:
[IMG]http://htmlimg2.scribdassets.com/1kzmbw7jnk3e565b/images/35-d4539f8381.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
It's really just the head that ruins it. The rest is pretty okay.
[QUOTE=Egevened;43608144]dont diss the first one ok
the first one is maybe the best high fantasy universe I ever knew
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fuck gay elves @ 2 tho[/QUOTE]
Well personally I found DA's universe about as interesting and engaging as Torchlight, but different strokes I guess.
[QUOTE=DeeCeeTeeBee;43607392]
Planescape: Torment is essentially "you are good guys these are bad guys kill bad guys"[/QUOTE]
you nerd did you even play that game
[QUOTE=MaddaCheeb;43612634]That analogy doesn't work, you're comparing two entirely different forms of literature and basing the dedication of fans off of that analogy.
Now, I read this guy's re-write. Some of his ideas are great. His endings actually make sense.[/QUOTE]
"Kind of awesome of the guy, he was passionate enough to write a huge thing about something he really enjoyed.
Gotta love fans somtimes"
is completely interchangeable with ME or MLP fanfic
[QUOTE=Lukeo;43607290]Mass Effect is essentially "you are good guys these are bad guys kill bad guys"[/QUOTE]
Stories have protagonists and antagonists
99% of the time
and for good reason
maybe this is crazy but when lukeo posted that i interpreted it in a way that wasn't super-pedantic and stupid?
like to me it was obvious that he was saying Mass Effects interactions between the different "factions" were shallow and that it was laden with false dichotomies
[QUOTE=Blooper Reel;43607017]Oh god there's artwork in the doc too:
[img]http://htmlimg2.scribdassets.com/1kzmbw7jnk3e565b/images/10-ea1ff4715f.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
"Please kill me" mutters Garrus.
I'm currently writing my own version of Matt Smith's regeneration in Dr Who, can I send that to the news
I hope a gaming news site will cover my crossover fanfic saga of Modern Warfare and Persona 4.
[B]Call of Junes: Midnight Warfare[/B]
[QUOTE=Blooper Reel;43607017]Oh god there's artwork in the doc too:
[img]http://htmlimg2.scribdassets.com/1kzmbw7jnk3e565b/images/10-ea1ff4715f.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;43606870]Jesus Christ, I can understand the massive mountain of disappointment expressed by fans but holy shit guy, it's just a game.[/QUOTE]
This has probably just got him hired some place big, too
[QUOTE=NoDachi;43612894]"Kind of awesome of the guy, he was passionate enough to write a huge thing about something he really enjoyed.
Gotta love fans somtimes"
is completely interchangeable with ME or MLP fanfic[/QUOTE]
effort and passion only matter when it comes to things that the beholder cares about, basically
[QUOTE=Boaraes;43608030]What has baffled me for years is something as mediocre as Dragon Age being regarded so highly by some people. It is a mystery.[/QUOTE]
What's so baffling about having an opinion?
I've played the first level of ME3 and the demo of ME2.
They were both boring and generally bad. It felt like I was playing a game with a tenth of the production value. You may be able to fix a story, but it's the gameplay you need to deal with.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;43612894]"Kind of awesome of the guy, he was passionate enough to write a huge thing about something he really enjoyed.
Gotta love fans somtimes"
is completely interchangeable with ME or MLP fanfic[/QUOTE]
Not when you're comparing a fan of a game series known for dark drama, good plotlines and action to a fan of a kid's show that has completely different tones and themes.
It's still not a fair comparison.
I don't think Mass Effect 3 was worth entirely rewriting, but as a huge Mass Effect fan and an avid fan-fiction lover (and fuck all who hate fanfics), this is a nice initiative. I'll be reading this.
I only wish some of the best fan-fictions I know could get this much attention.
Speaking as someone who has done a novelisation of Skyrim, this blows my fuckin' mind.
I mean, that thing got to 100 pages; I can't imagine getting it to 400.
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[QUOTE=LegndNikko;43609213]It's this kind of mindset that keeps video games from being respected as another medium. If it was a movie or book, people would be a lot more lenient towards it.[/QUOTE]
I can understand the rise of fanfiction and having stuff that take place in the same universe that some video game created, but creating a [b]novel-sized[/b] piece of writing that was a part of a reaction to the conclusion of a video game series. That is a little overkill.
If he has been a career-writer or takes writing for a hobby then I'll understand him more.
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