SOPA sponsor has another Internet bill that records you 24/7
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[QUOTE=Hogs;34321569]mfw Americans trying to dictate the internet[/QUOTE]
Please don't say "Americans", as it makes you seem like you think all of America and not just our shitty government is trying to do this.
And tbh that's not very nice to assume.
Great. Now any politicians opposing this can be accused of helping paedophiles by the people in support of the bill.
So basically they are making spywares legal and create their own
[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;34321583]Please don't say "Americans", as it makes you seem like you think all of America and not just our shitty government is trying to do this.
And tbh that's not very nice to assume.[/QUOTE]
Okay, let me correct myself; "American Government."
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;34321605]So basically they are making spywares legal and create their own[/QUOTE]
No, ISPs are just keeping logs of your activity.
First it's "PROTECT AMERICAN JOBS!"
now it's "PROTECT AMERICAN CHILDREN!"
what's next? "PROTECT AMERICAN GOATS!"?
I thought that handing out fines for not having lights on your bike, was an incredibly dumb law to enforce here in Denmark, but American politics seems to trumph Denmark all the time.
No, no, and no. This bill is not acceptable, it is SO outta here!
I agree with him in one thing: Child pornography. However, I don't like it so much the away he wants it to over
[QUOTE=Lacobus;34321775]I agree with him in one thing: Child pornography. However, I don't like it so much the away he wants it to over[/QUOTE]
Aren't CP sites like already massively monitored ?
God damnit Congress, don't we have [url=http://www.usdebtclock.org/]bigger[/url] [url=http://www.goldseek.com/quotes/charts/5yeargoldchart.php]problems[/url] to be dealing with right now?
I don't understand how this stops people from using Bitcoins for illegal stuff rather than credit cards.
[QUOTE=Banned?;34321442]Why are we even [I]allowed to name bills?[/I]
This shit is intolerable.[/QUOTE]
Naming isn't the problem, Riders are.
Riders being pieces of legislation that would never pass on their own, attached to a bill that's guaranteed to pass. Also there is absolutely no limit to what you can put in a rider either.
It's corrupt as shit, but totally legal (somehow).
[QUOTE=kaze4159;34321385]Oh boy, they used the CP card
Now every single argument from them will just be "It's for the children"[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;Qh2sWSVRrmo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo[/video]
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;34321705]I thought that handing out fines for not having lights on your bike, was an incredibly dumb law to enforce here in Denmark, but American politics seems to trumph Denmark all the time.[/QUOTE]
And tbh that is to keep the citizens safe, not because of company lobbying and corruptness.
[QUOTE=Lacobus;34321775]I agree with him in one thing: Child pornography. However, I don't like it so much the away he wants it to over[/QUOTE]
I don't believe he really gives two shits about child pornography or intellectual property. This is all just a convenient excuse to limit personal freedoms.
[QUOTE=tomatmann;34321357]God bless the United States of America. The only nation that wants the New World Order to become a reality.
[img]http://www.nyhetsspeilet.no/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Illuminati_logo1.jpg[/img]
No wonder everyone hates the US of America.
Brainwashing every citizen to thank god for their food.[/QUOTE]
My mom still doesn't say prayers during Thanksgiving. Neither does anyone in my school. What are you rambling on about?
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;34322922]So... When is he up for re-election?[/QUOTE]
This Fall
Edit:
This bill was introduced last summer.
[URL="http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/the-legislation-that-could-kill-internet-privacy-for-good/242853/?555"]http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/the-legislation-that-could-kill-internet-privacy-for-good/242853/?555[/URL]
[QUOTE=aracnop;34323553]This Fall
Edit:
This bill was introduced last summer.
[URL="http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/the-legislation-that-could-kill-internet-privacy-for-good/242853/?555"]http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/the-legislation-that-could-kill-internet-privacy-for-good/242853/?555[/URL][/QUOTE]
I'm gonna not vote for him [I]so hard.[/I]
This is probably going to cause trouble for ISPs.
Let's assume I have a 1.5 megabyte per second connection. What'd happen if you were downloading gibberish 12 hours a day - just while you sleep - limitlessly? 1.5 MB/s * 60 * 60 * 12 = 64800 megabytes, or 63.28 gigabytes. That means that in twelve hours, you will have wasted 63.28 GB of your ISP's storage capacity. If we do this for 30 days, that'd be 1898.4 GB (1.85 TB!).
If ONE customer is capable of making their ISP waste a 2 TB HDD per month, that'd be around 120-140€ that they have to pay monthly, while the ISP is charging us, what, 30€ monthly?
That'd mean they're losing around 90€ a month - just from one person.
If, instead of having to go through all the hoops to get this set up, someone developed an application so stupidly simple that absolutely anyone could use it, being able to set limits and timeframes, and then just pressing one button to have it download data, without even having them stored locally, and more than one user from the same ISP used it, what would happen...?
There'd be basically three options:
- Monitoring every single Internet user would be virtually impossible, due to the costs.
- ISPs would increase the monthly costs for users, to make up for the money lost. This would be a solution at first, but then the companies would go bankrupt.
- ISPs would set up daily/montly/yearly download limits, and after surpassing them, the connection would be cut or heavily limited, which would most likely eventually result in a loss of customers.
[QUOTE=GranPC;34323987]- [b]ISPs would set up daily/montly/yearly download limits, and after surpassing them, the connection would be cut or heavily limited,[/b] which would most likely eventually result in a loss of customers.
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That's how the internet works in Australia :(
How can an ISP even monitor your transactions assuming they are all SSL encrypted(and if they are not you are a retard for using that service)
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[QUOTE=GranPC;34323987]
- ISPs would set up daily/montly/yearly download limits, and after surpassing them, the connection would be cut or heavily limited, which would most likely eventually result in a loss of customers.[/QUOTE]
Isn't that already in power for most american ISPs?
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34324178]How can an ISP even monitor your transactions assuming they are all SSL encrypted(and if they are not you are a retard for using that service)
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Isn't that already in power for most american ISPs?[/QUOTE]
Pretty much all mobile carriers have data limits, I think AT&T U-verse is the only home ISP that has data limits in my area.
4th Amendment
That's my only response. 4th Amendment.
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