Bill Nye: Teaching kids creationism undermines both them and the U.S. - Polidicks

I imagine Bill Nye getting booed in Texas for saying the moon reflects the sun, him waiting 3 years, and just being like, "alright fuck those illiterates" then he goes down to the press office to make this statement.

[QUOTE=Shane Alvarado;37428679]The girl I like told me she doesn't believe in evolution. Normally, that'd be a deal breaker for me, but for some reason I'm fine with it. I like her too much to let that ruin it for me.[/QUOTE] Would someone kindly explain to me what the big deal is?

[QUOTE=Shane Alvarado;37442133]Would someone kindly explain to me what the big deal is?[/QUOTE] Evolution has been proven. We study rock layers and the animal fossils in them. As you go further up the rock layer, you observe how animals change. Paleontology gives us a look at the earth as it was billions of years ago. We see periods of evolutionary history, followed by cataclysmic events that invokes change in evolution. It is believed that during the ice age or the meteor or whatever wiped the dinosaurs out, small mammals were able to burrow where there is warmth and oxygen and survive, and that is why mammals are now the dominate class of animals instead of lizards. Taking a look at a chicken's genetics, we know that they are the closest living relative to the dinosaur. We've even been able to observe small amounts of evolution taking place in animal populations over the course of the past 100 years, in fact. Not believing in evolution is stupid. Schools in Texas and rural buttfucknowhere towns are saying the earth was created thousands of years ago in seven days. It is really terrible that they are doing that.

[QUOTE=Fenderson;37443142]Evolution has been proven. We study rock layers and the animal fossils in them. As you go further up the rock layer, you observe how animals change. Paleontology gives us a look at the earth as it was billions of years ago. We see periods of evolutionary history, followed by cataclysmic events that invokes change in evolution. It is believed that during the ice age or the meteor or whatever wiped the dinosaurs out, small mammals were able to burrow where there is warmth and oxygen and survive, and that is why mammals are now the dominate class of animals instead of lizards. Taking a look at a chicken's genetics, we know that they are the closest living relative to the dinosaur. We've even been able to observe small amounts of evolution taking place in animal populations over the course of the past 100 years, in fact. Not believing in evolution is stupid. Schools in Texas and rural buttfucknowhere towns are saying the earth was created thousands of years ago in seven days. It is really terrible that they are doing that.[/QUOTE] While it is, one stupid thing about a person does not make one stupid. I like everything else about her, why let this one odd trait ruin it for me?

[QUOTE=Shane Alvarado;37443168]While it is, one stupid thing about a person does not make one stupid. I like everything else about her, why let this one odd trait ruin it for me?[/QUOTE] I'm not you so I don't know if having a girlfriend who believes in the church's view of creation will work out for you, but I personally think people who seriously believe in Adam and Eve and the world was created in seven days and all that crap are stupid as shit to the point where I'd rather not be around them. If the disregard for a big chunk of science doesn't bother you, by all means.

[QUOTE=Shane Alvarado;37443168]While it is, one stupid thing about a person does not make one stupid. I like everything else about her, why let this one odd trait ruin it for me?[/QUOTE] because believing in the bible version of "the start" is utterly moronic and removes all doubt about the person being completely unable to think logically and rationally?

[QUOTE=Honesty;37443248]because believing in the bible version of "the start" is utterly moronic and removes all doubt about the person being completely unable to think logically and rationally?[/QUOTE] When was it ever like that? Perhaps it's like assuming someone is a terrible driver because they're bad at parking.

[QUOTE=Shane Alvarado;37443279]When was it ever like that? Perhaps it's like assuming someone is a terrible driver because they're bad at parking.[/QUOTE] How does someone pass driving tests if they're bad at parking?

[QUOTE=megafat;37443356]How does someone pass driving tests if they're bad at parking?[/QUOTE] Eh, fine. I'm bad at analogies. Anyway, I've spent enough time around her to know, that despite her being a creationist, she is perfectly capable of rational and intelligent thought. I would even call her one of the smarter people I know. I think religious doctrines like that have a way of getting stuck in one's head, living among tons of normal ideas. I used to believe in God. It's not like when I stopped there was a radical change in the way I thought about things.

I've known very intelligent people who didn't believe in evolution, though they were hardly frothing-at-the-mouth creationists, they just tried not to think about it mostly.

[QUOTE=megafat;37443356]How does someone pass driving tests if they're bad at parking?[/QUOTE] I need to ask my mother about that

[QUOTE=Bobie;37440796]everything in the universe up until now has been chance you idiot[/QUOTE] Yeah. Until evolution and individual thinking came about. Evolution isn't as random as the systems outside and on this planet, as it adapts to longer term situations, such as Low sunlight after the Dino-meteor, evolving the human brain when it turned out it needed to to use tools optimally, making a species targetted by predators poisonous, Giving species that live in sunlight a darker pigment while species deep in caves are so pale you can actually see through them. Only thing that's random IMO is how LOLJESUS is still a valid argument in a country such as America. a country that loudly and arrogantly constantly claims and professes to be "the best goddamn country in the world!" [editline]28th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=megafat;37443356]How does someone pass driving tests if they're bad at parking?[/QUOTE] They often do. The world isn't just black and white. Being good at something isn't equal to always succeeding and being bad isn't equal to always failing. THen when you introduce another variable in the shape of hard work, you get your... argument invalidated.

[QUOTE=Unreliable;37425438]The extreme right-wing Christian fundamentalists are like the kid in elementary school who acts like an ass in class and gets in trouble. Later on because of that kids actions, recess is taken away from the whole class. That's my metaphor of this situation.[/QUOTE] Actually, because you used the work "like" it would be a simile.

[QUOTE=lemonsman;37444486]Actually, because you used the work "like" it would be a simile.[/QUOTE] I hate how public school teachers teach this. They teach it because it's simple, not because it's correct. It's just like the I before E rule. On an unrelated note, I had a dream once where I met God and it turned out he's just a super lazy underachiever that sits on his ass all day, and that's why humans took millions of years to create (using evolution, of course) and why the world is so fucked up.

I hope people realize that if they were true fundamentalist Christians, they'd be advocating communism. [editline]28th August 2012[/editline] Anyways, creationism flat out should not be taught at all, except for theological studies. You study it in the way that you study history, not as if it were science.

[QUOTE=Shane Alvarado;37443447]Eh, fine. I'm bad at analogies. Anyway, I've spent enough time around her to know, that despite her being a creationist, she is perfectly capable of rational and intelligent thought.[/QUOTE] i know it sounds pretty biased of me but i have a very hard time understanding how one can think rationally and also reject evolution. they'd have to be fucking amazing in some other domain in order to offset creationism. [editline]28th August 2012[/editline] I guess if they are just legitimately ignorant about it and don't know what it's about, then sure, but if they've seen all the evidence and still won't change their mind, I have no problem writing them off as irrational.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;37446178]i know it sounds pretty biased of me but i have a very hard time understanding how one can think rationally and also reject evolution. they'd have to be fucking amazing in some other domain in order to offset creationism. [editline]28th August 2012[/editline] I guess if they are just legitimately ignorant about it and don't know what it's about, then sure, but if they've seen all the evidence and still won't change their mind, I have no problem writing them off as irrational.[/QUOTE] One thing is seeing the evidence and denying it. But i think the most prevalent occurance is actually REFUSING to even review any evidence. It's ironic since people who do that go along and preach about how it enforces your faith to be challenged in it, yet they balk at any challenge for fear of it knocking them off their high horse. So they actually just live life in pretense that nothing else is relevant, rather than to find strength in their god. In other words. All of American christians ever are actually faithless dogs. What a shocker.