• The execution of a Georgia man who murdered a cop on the side of the road in 1998 has been scheduled
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[QUOTE=Rusty100;46855066]life in a cell is still more humane than killing him. assuming he's not in excruciating physical pain.[/QUOTE] That's up to him. You imagine living years straight with no internet, no human contact other than other inmates and guards in an American prison, with only a random choice of books to entertain you. Imagine that, except you're a psychopath who happily murdered an officer for no reason other than "I'm a vet so I can break the law" and "dont talk to me like that". [editline]4th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=elevate;46855079] I'm more interested in why this guy did what he did, but from what I read so far there isn't any clear motive.[/QUOTE] He was an exceptionally broken Vietnam vet who got annoyed at being pulled over.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;46855066]how is that an excuse to kill a man? how does it make death a better alternative? neither is the hallmark of humane treatment but [B]life in a cell is still more humane than killing him[/B]. assuming he's not in excruciating physical pain.[/QUOTE] That's subjective to the max. I'd say you're doing him a favour by not allowing him to rot in a cell. But really why should we have any respect for his life when he has none for other's?
[QUOTE=Rusty100;46855066]how is that an excuse to kill a man? how does it make death a better alternative? neither is the hallmark of humane treatment but life in a cell is still more humane than killing him. assuming he's not in excruciating physical pain.[/QUOTE] Are you totally ignoring my previous post and fixating on half of what I'm saying? I'm [B]NOT[/B] saying the man should be killed. I'm just saying living in a cell like a fucking hamster without human contact except the guy that feeds you isn't really that much better than death. But sure, I'll leave that up to him to figure out. I'm simply stating though, some people would rather choose death than simply existing in a box, since that would pretty much break down any sort of mental stability he ever had left. [editline]4th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=elevate;46855079]Who cares about these dumb death penalty debates that all these threads devolve into? No one should be put to death. I'm more interested in why this guy did what he did, but from what I read so far there isn't any clear motive.[/QUOTE] Well yeah, your trying to extract a rational reason from an irrational man.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;46855083]That's up to him. You imagine living years straight with no internet, no human contact other than other inmates and guards in an American prison, with only a random choice of books to entertain you. Imagine that, except you're a psychopath who happily murdered an officer for no reason other than "I'm a vet so I can break the law" and "dont talk to me like that".[/QUOTE] yeh, that's all a bunch of conjecture though because you don't know how the dude feels about that. you're putting your own opinion onto it. if i were to, then yeah, all of that stuff is better than being dead. [editline]5th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=No_Excuses;46855094]That's subjective to the max.[/QUOTE] which is why ideally he should probably get to choose [editline]5th January 2015[/editline] i'm not saying one IS humane and one ISN'T, they both suck. but one of them is very clearly better than the other. but like I said, I think a good alternative would be letting a person choose. rather than to just complain and not suggest a better alternative.
[QUOTE=ExplosiveCheese;46855096]Well yeah, your trying to extract a rational reason from an irrational man.[/QUOTE] Insane people are just people who view the world with a different mindset. He does things with reason too, although that reason wouldn't make sense to us.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;46853491]This isn't the right place for a pro/anti capital punishment shitfest.[/QUOTE] how is it not
The reason why I'd rather have him 'rot in a cell' is because at least there, he can have some semblance of a life. He can read books (and I presume that prison libraries are updated once in a while), if he behaves then he can interact with other human beings, and he is of no harm to anyone. I personally just disagree with cutting a life short, even if that life belongs to a terrible, disgusting person, if there are alternatives, without their consent. If he decides that he wants to die, go ahead, execute him. [sp]But if this was about 'removing a burden on society', he wouldn't have a bloody audience.[/sp]
Can someone tell me what happens in the video? I kinda want to know but I don't want to end with a trauma.
[QUOTE=-Iker-;46855167]Can someone tell me what happens in the video? I kinda want to know but I don't want to end with a trauma.[/QUOTE] An officer gets in a firefight with a suspect he pulled over, the suspect pulls a rifle with a large capacity magazine and simply out guns the cop. The suspect isn't trying to simply escape, but makes sure to kill the officer. It messed me up for a long while after I saw it years ago. Don't watch it.
He killed that poor officer in cold blood, as far as I'm concerned it serves him right for taking away a loving husband and father from his family.
Every execution in Georgia is less than five miles from my house.
[QUOTE=Ajacks;46855205]An officer gets in a firefight with a suspect he pulled over, the suspect pulls a rifle with a large capacity magazine and simply out guns the cop. The suspect isn't trying to simply escape, but makes sure to kill the officer. It messed me up for a long while after I saw it years ago. Don't watch it.[/QUOTE] Jesus christ that sounds horrible. Thank god I didn't.
[IMG]http://puu.sh/e3XAR/e3e1d32597.png[/IMG] oh my fucking god seriously
[QUOTE=Rusty100;46855066]how is that an excuse to kill a man? how does it make death a better alternative? neither is the hallmark of humane treatment but life in a cell is still more humane than killing him. assuming he's not in excruciating physical pain.[/QUOTE] Do you really find humane what is basically the most elaborate and prolonged psychological torture of inability to do anything about your life rather than just ending it?
Judging by that avatar he may be a troll trying to start a shitstorm. [editline]4th January 2015[/editline] Quoting joshua's post, got ninja'd.
[QUOTE=-Iker-;46855167]Can someone tell me what happens in the video? I kinda want to know but I don't want to end with a trauma.[/QUOTE] The guy on the 1st page overdramaticised the situation. You won't get trauma from this video unless you are pregnant, less than 10 years old or psychologically inadequate.
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;46853722]After watching that video I now understand why american cops fills anyone with lead as soon as they reach into their car or their pockets.[/QUOTE] You don't realize how accurate your statement even is. This is used in police academies as an example of the consequences of waiting too long to use deadly force. Hundreds of thousands of cops in the US have watched this.
[QUOTE=Sift;46853824]I have a weak stomach and it's easy for me to get sick so didn't watch the video, but man I'm curious to see it anyway to see how the officer died if Facepunch of all places is fine with the Death Penalty.[/QUOTE] Facepunch is like when the Republican party started being racists and the democrats started being for civil rights.
Curious as to why people believe he should be executed.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;46855305]The guy on the 1st page overdramaticised the situation. You won't get trauma from this video unless you are pregnant, less than 10 years old or psychologically inadequate.[/QUOTE] Won't watch it anyway. Better safe than sorry I guess. [editline].[/editline] This has reminded me of those beheading videos I got shown when I was 12. The only thing that kept me from thinking constantly about them was thinking that they were fake. But this one clearly isn't so yeah, not going to bother with it. As for the guy, was it ever confirmed he was insane or is he just a disgusting piece of shit?
[QUOTE=Stopper;46853499]Killing people isn't reasonable.[/QUOTE] How is it not?
Just saw that video. This guy definitely deserves to be executed. Justice needs to be served.
Just FYI for people who didn't watch, nothing visual happens on camera. You only hear horrific things.
[QUOTE=Jaspers;46855728]Just saw that video. This guy definitely deserves to be executed. Justice needs to be served.[/QUOTE] Why does he need to be executed? In what way is that justice?
[QUOTE=GunFox;46855755]Why does he need to be executed? In what way is that justice?[/QUOTE] Because he murdered a police officer who was simply [I]doing his job.[/I] This guy doesn't even deserve the privilege of rotting away in prison.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;46853491]This isn't the right place for a pro/anti capital punishment shitfest.[/QUOTE] No this is the perfect place for it. Every time someone gets capital punishment we should discuss it, regardless how touchy the subject is.
[QUOTE=Slim Charles;46854886]Like seriously have the people who have sympathy for this cunt seen the video? The guy straight up executes the cop whilst he's screaming in pain, no mercy, no regret, no second thought. [/QUOTE] Yeah, I did watch the video. While I feel horribly sorry for the cop, I feel that I can't let the brutality shown in the video affect my judgement on the vet just because the actions the vet committed made him look despicable. If I were the judge, I would probably only execute him if I knew for sure that he couldn't get back into society and he wanted to die, and even then, the death penalty is fucking expensive as people have mentioned in this thread, so I would be less inclined to think that it's worth it.
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;46855094]That's subjective to the max. I'd say you're doing him a favour by not allowing him to rot in a cell. But really why should we have any respect for his life when he has none for other's?[/QUOTE] You're supposed to have respect for people whether they respect you or not. If someone calls you names, you don't start calling them names. If they steal from you, it doesn't make it right for you to do criminal activity and steal their things. [editline]4th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Dark RaveN;46855287]Do you really find humane what is basically the most elaborate and prolonged psychological torture of inability to do anything about your life rather than just ending it?[/QUOTE] Why are we killing people or killing people in jail though?
[QUOTE=GunFox;46855755]Why does he need to be executed? In what way is that justice?[/QUOTE] That was one of the cruelest and pointless actions I've ever seen taken by any individual. The officer was far beyond incapacitated when Branned chose to execute him, and he was fully aware of what he was doing ("What now, fucker!"). I say this as he visibly understands it is a police officer and not something out of a flashback or what-have-you from PTSD (which I would argue this man probably had to a great extent). Even so, I feel from the way Brannan acted in the video, he would not normally fit into society. He could function, but if he were to do anything that endangered others (such as speeding) and was stopped by the police, the same thing would happen again (or at the very least, the whole "I am a vet, what are you doing to me!" sort of deal.) I usually am against the death penalty unless it is an extreme case. This is one of those cases. That is my opinion, and that is what he was sentenced to.
[QUOTE=Explosions;46853404]What the fuck is this going to accomplish? Now there will be two dead people as a result of the incident.[/QUOTE] Saving the american tax payer money. Alot of money. If your locked up with no chance of parole, your as good as dead, you will never contribute anything to society again as you are a danger to it.
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