Miyamoto says Nintendo is focused on core rather than casual gaming market now - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Krandel;45824472]Fucking hell, I'm probably one of the only people who liked Other M when it first came out, though that was probably only because it was my first Metroid game and I didn't know much about the series or about Samus outside of the Super Smash Bros. series. It wasn't until I got to Ridley that I finally questioned it, because, I might not know much about the series, but I did know that Samus fought Ridley multiple times, and she should have been about fight without hesitation, not chicken out of the fight.[/QUOTE] If you haven't yet, you need to go play the Metroid Prime trilogy. Those are proper Metroid games right there.

[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;45824557]If you haven't yet, you need to go play the Metroid Prime trilogy. Those are proper Metroid games right there.[/QUOTE] I want to, but I can't seem to find the game anywhere.

Less mario, more Metroid. I got all the prime games, including Pinball, Hunters and the trilogy. What ever happened to the rumoured Metroid Dread?

I cant wait for a non-causal animal crossing

Now how about an actual F-Zero game instead of making a minigame in Nintendoland and a Kart/Track in Mario Kart? Hell, I'll even take F-Zero GXHD.

Yeah let's Bring back Perfect Da- :'(

I don't think he means that he doesn't like casual games as a whole, I think he's referring to the games that are barely games and are stupidly easy. Mario games have been considered casual however they still provide a challenge from time to time and require you to actually do shit.

[QUOTE=ashxu;45824846]I don't think he means that he doesn't like casual games as a whole, I think he's referring to the games that are barely games and are stupidly easy. Mario games have been considered casual however they still provide a challenge from time to time and require you to actually do shit.[/QUOTE] Like gather 50 lives by the time you exit world 2? Mario games have been getting significantly easier.

[QUOTE=ArcticRevrus;45824967]Like gather 50 lives by the time you exit world 2? Mario games have been getting significantly easier.[/QUOTE] I don't see how lives come into this when some objectively hard games from the NES era had infinite continues like Ninja Gaiden.

[QUOTE=ArcticRevrus;45824967]Like gather 50 lives by the time you exit world 2? Mario games have been getting significantly easier.[/QUOTE] Despite the big amount of lives you get, games like 3D World are still very challenging.

[QUOTE=Glitchman;45824824]Yeah let's Bring back Perfect Da- :'([/QUOTE] Don't worry, Rare said they have plans for it!! Haha... wh-what could go wrong

I really want to see modern core games, especially if they use the wiiu pad controls to their fullest. Hell, if there's something [i]really[/i] worthy of buying up the pro controller I'd be ecstatic [QUOTE=ironman17;45824111]Doesn't help that the sarcmark isn't as commonly used as something like an exclamation point or question mark, but hey, no-one really needs to know whether you're being sarcastic or not[IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/sdo0u9.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE] nobody paid enough attention to realize the sarc was itself proposed out of bleeding sarcasm

[QUOTE=ashxu;45825149]I don't see how lives come into this when some objectively hard games from the NES era had infinite continues like Ninja Gaiden.[/QUOTE] Yeah, the common variant of lives is more of a relic from the time of arcades and not saving your progress beyond a scoreboard. Unlimited continues is the way, though perhaps having a Contra-style of lives in-stage, allowing you to pick up where you died, would work out. The way said system would work is that you have a number of lives in that stage, consuming a life every time you die whilst reviving you on the spot, and when you run out of lives you get booted to the stage select screen or the start of the stage, however the level system works. Also lives would be rarer and more precious as opposed to being able to gather 99 of the damn things on a good day.

[QUOTE=GunFox;45822772]That's right, come crawling back. What? Found out that casual gamers are fickle and have the attention span of a retarded goldfish? My my, if only someone other than[I] every core gamer [/I]out there could have predicted such a mishap. Here is a blanket, you can tell us alllll about it while you get back to making real games, bitch.[/QUOTE] I didn't know you got so mad over non-gun things

F-Zero game about bounty hunting, please. If Captain Falcon is a renowned bounty hunter, we should be able to find out why first hand.

[QUOTE=Appox;45825486]I didn't know you got so mad over non-gun things[/QUOTE] what is joke

[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;45824557]If you haven't yet, you need to go play the Metroid Prime trilogy. Those are proper Metroid games right there.[/QUOTE] Other M is the reason I've decided to keep my Trilogy copy until I die.

Well with the God tier DLC they just released I can only hope it gets better and better from here

[QUOTE=GunFox;45822935]No not seriously. I'm poking fun.[/QUOTE] As other people in this thread have stated there are people (including people here on Facepunch) who seriously say and/or agree with that comment you posted here on this thread. So sorry if it was hard to tell at first.

[QUOTE=Mr. N;45824261]If they did that, imagine the amount of cheering people would do. Like I just hope to god it isn't CANON you know? That's what made me hate it more than anything else when I played it.[/QUOTE] Nintendo is already strange about canon, even if Metroid is one of their few IPs that actually try to care about it. What's worse is that Sakamoto, the guy blamed for much of Other M's issues as he had complete creative control over the project apparently (including turning down Jennifer Hale for Samus' voice actor and then having the person that was chosen specifically read the lines with no emotion, as well as basically being behind the story and then forcing on Team Ninja the terrible control setup), wanted to deem the entire Prime trilogy non-canon, and Other M conflicts with the canon of pretty much every game repeatedly. It's literally a black hole upon the franchise, and even if you deem Other M non-canon and try to forget about it, the suit's still there in Smash Bros 4, and people will never forget about the game. It's Nintendo's Sonic '06.

[QUOTE=GunFox;45822772]That's right, come crawling back. What? Found out that casual gamers are fickle and have the attention span of a retarded goldfish? My my, if only someone other than[I] every core gamer [/I]out there could have predicted such a mishap. Here is a blanket, you can tell us alllll about it while you get back to making real games, bitch.[/QUOTE] Another stupid, kind of creepy post by gunfox

[QUOTE=RikohZX;45827725]Nintendo is already strange about canon, even if Metroid is one of their few IPs that actually try to care about it. What's worse is that Sakamoto, the guy blamed for much of Other M's issues as he had complete creative control over the project apparently (including turning down Jennifer Hale for Samus' voice actor and then having the person that was chosen specifically read the lines with no emotion, as well as basically being behind the story and then forcing on Team Ninja the terrible control setup), wanted to deem the entire Prime trilogy non-canon, and Other M conflicts with the canon of pretty much every game repeatedly. It's literally a black hole upon the franchise, and even if you deem Other M non-canon and try to forget about it, the suit's still there in Smash Bros 4, and people will never forget about the game. It's Nintendo's Sonic '06.[/QUOTE] At least Sonic 06 wrote itself out of canon and is consistent with the character's existing personalities. I honestly feel that Metroid: Other M is more of a blight on its respective series than Sonic 06 and Shadow The Hedgehog combined.

[QUOTE=zizzleplix;45827647]As other people in this thread have stated there are people (including people here on Facepunch) who seriously say and/or agree with that comment you posted here on this thread. So sorry if it was hard to tell at first.[/QUOTE] I figured it was so over the top that it wouldn't be necessary. Who seriously has that kind of malice for Nintendo. About the worst they do is milk franchises, but people buy it, and they seem decent in quality, so who cares?

[QUOTE=GunFox;45828957]I figured it was so over the top that it wouldn't be necessary. [B]Who seriously has that kind of malice for Nintendo[/B]. About the worst they do is milk franchises, but people buy it, and they seem decent in quality, so who cares?[/QUOTE] a good amount of people do

[QUOTE=usaokay;45822433]More Metroid games please.[/QUOTE] And can get we one as good as Super Metroid or Metroid Zero Mission?

I recall there being rumours of Metroid Dread and even a Metroid Dread easter egg in MP3: [img]http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/815/815899/metroid-dread-rumored-20070827041640058-000.jpg[/img] It was supposed to be a new sidescroller. God damnit I hope they make it.

I wish he didn't feel this way, tell you the truth... Well, partially. It makes me sad that casuals don't have a better introduction into the industry. Nintendo was doing a good job. The stuff they made has always been of good quality, even during the casual days. They [i]never[/i] stooped to shovelware. Even their most casual-friendly stuff was always fun and even experienced gamers could enjoy it. The stuff on smartphones and Facebook? The vast majority of that junk is garbage. It's shallow, it's vapid, and it's pointless. And I'm angry at Nintendo themselves for allowing third-parties to put that kind of shovelware onto the Wii. Wii was a great system with an admirable purpose and that crap dragged both it and the reputation of Nintendo's own casual stuff down by association. The problem is that all that trash was the most acquirable; it was budget-priced compared to the good stuff on the system, and it's even more cheap and accessible now on the smartphones that everyone already owns (unlike consoles, which require a hefty initial investment just for the system itself.) A while back there was a site called "What They Play," and it was geared towards parents and other gaming-uninformed folk to introduce them to the kind of stuff gamers like their kids were into. It basically was a whole bunch of reviews and discussions on our kinds of games, but from a non-gamers perspective. But the cool thing is, the official reviews on the site that drove the discussion were still written by people familiar with the industry, so it was a really good introductory resource. Unfortunately, it got snatched up by someone (I think by the guys who own IGN) and shut down. We need more resources like that, and we need better casual games that can better segue non-gamers into our medium. I'd hate to see Nintendo just give up on this.

He's more disappointed in the sub-casual field of gaming; games that are more dumb minded than casual games. He wants more non-casual and plain casual games as opposed to the smartphone version of stupid simple games

But he's saying smartphone games are a good thing because they're covering the casual field so Nintendo can focus on the core stuff. I don't agree with that, because like you said: that stuff is [i]sub[/i]-casual. People should have to settle for that crap. If he wants more quality casual games, he shouldn't just leave casual gaming to smartphones.

[QUOTE=Mr. N;45824261]If they did that, imagine the amount of cheering people would do. Like I just hope to god it isn't CANON you know? That's what made me hate it more than anything else when I played it.[/QUOTE] Someone did a breakdown a while ago and Other M contradicts plot elements from literally every single other game in the series, it's either not canon or it's the ONLY canon game in the series. It's self-contained because it has to be for the series to make sense.