Slenderman stabber ruled as not competent for trial.
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[QUOTE=Kardia;45565138]This is something that I've been thinking about.
What's the record like for violent insanity recovery?
And let's say she's treated successfully. Won't the memory of these events, and the treatment she gets from others as a result, prevent her from fully integrating with society? Won't she always feel alienated and different? Maybe even resent society as a whole?[/QUOTE]
Maybe it is low chance of succeeding of treatment. But it is far better then locking people up forever.
[QUOTE=SuperHoboMan;45565067]Holy fuck the classmate survived being stabbed [B][I]NINETEEN TIMES?[/I][/B][/QUOTE]
There was once a story about a kid who got stabbed 57 times with a screwdriver and then got buried alive, but survived
[QUOTE=Galen;45564871]I believe in slenderman
but i wouldn't go as far as to stab a friend 19 times to try and become his proxy[/QUOTE]
why do you believe in slenderman
he's literally just a thing some dude on something awful photoshopped into a picture
[QUOTE=Galen;45564871]I believe in slenderman
but i wouldn't go as far as to stab a friend 19 times to try and become his proxy[/QUOTE]
Please please please be a troll
[QUOTE=SexualShark;45564845]psychologists arent immune to trickery[/QUOTE]
The insanity defense in the US needs to be proved in the court of law by the defense. Not disproved by the prosecution. So if they win an insanity defense then they demonstrated it with compelling enough evidence to convince a judge.
[QUOTE=Galen;45564871]I believe in slenderman
but i wouldn't go as far as to stab a friend 19 times to try and become his proxy[/QUOTE]
Achievement unlocked: Dumbest Post of 2014.
Congrats, you beat the entire Rust Sub-forum.
[QUOTE=GeneralSpecific;45565004]OK did I say either of these things?
No.
What I said was that it wasn't likely. It is completely possible that a twelve year old girl who committed an unthinkably violent act and blamed it on fictional characters telling her to do it is completely sane and a talented enough actor to fool a highly educated person.[/QUOTE]
"Blindly trust" refers to your words such as "highly educated person". Why mention how highly educated someone is if you aren't implying people should believe what they have to say?
All I'm saying is even 'highly educated' people can fudge the truth if it profits them to do so. That's why you have to always be skeptical and look at the evidence.
About the 'evil' comment, the general public has a hard time facing up to the fact that rational, sane people can do the worst things imaginable. There are A LOT of people out there who would much rather think the girl stabbed the other girl because she's mentally ill. That's not as scary because we can treat mental illness, with drugs or other therapies. But what if she's sane and just wanted to kill that other girl? Many people simply can't handle the thought of that, since there is no fix for that. If someone KNOWS what they are doing is wrong but still want to do it, how do you fix that? You can't and it makes that person seem alien to other people. That scares them and that's why they can't accept it.
[QUOTE=Galen;45564871]I believe in slenderman
but i wouldn't go as far as to stab a friend 19 times to try and become his proxy[/QUOTE]
You believe in a product of a [I]Something Awful Photoshop[/I] thread to be real.
Ok.
[QUOTE=SexualShark;45564620]i am seeing this as a quickly made defense to make a story up to save her[/QUOTE]
she stabbed someone over a delusion about slenderman, she didn't stab someone for no reason and then make up a reason later she's obviously not in good mental health
[editline]1st August 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Galen;45564871]I believe in slenderman
but i wouldn't go as far as to stab a friend 19 times to try and become his proxy[/QUOTE]
you believe in something that was made up to post in a thread about making things up
[QUOTE=draugur;45565407]Achievement unlocked: Dumbest Post of 2014.
Congrats, you beat the entire Rust Sub-forum.[/QUOTE]
that guy is active in the dota 2 section
and let me tell you, that post is only the start of the rollercoaster
[QUOTE=Limed00d;45565921]You believe in a product of a [I]Something Awful Photoshop[/I] thread to be real.
Ok.[/QUOTE]
You should respect his beliefs.
Why is this getting rated funny? Shouldn't we respect everyone's beliefs?
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;45564957]Psychologists are people, people who work, to earn MONEY. Imagine I hire you to examine defendants for mental illness. You can't just say "He/she is sane" every time. If everyone is sane then what do I need you for? So you have to find some crazy ones once in a while. You can't call the most hated criminals insane, since that would cause public outrage if they get away with it. So you pick the cases that give you the most political cover. For instance, how much public outrage will there be if a young girl is deemed at least temporarily insane? Not much, truth be told a lot of the public wants her to be crazy so the crime isn't so scary. An evil kid is much scarier than a crazy kid.
This is why you can't blindly trust experts. They are in it for the money, if they are making a good chunk of cash as experts they aren't about to risk that by being 100% honest.[/QUOTE]
Uhm wouldn't their license be revoked?
[del]I thought U.S. law stated you can't name minors who are accused of a crime. Is there something I'm missing?[/del]
Nope, seems to just be a matter of personal preference.
[QUOTE=Galen;45564871]I believe in slenderman
but i wouldn't go as far as to stab a friend 19 times to try and become his proxy[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, guys, he said he won't stab a friend, he's mentally stable.
[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;45565013]I don't get rulings like this, if your delusions are dangerous enough to hurt others, then you should be locked up regardless of whether or not you knew it was right or not.
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Or am I completely misunderstanding what this means?[/QUOTE]
It means she gets life in a mental institute rather than life in a prison.
Either way I doubt she'll get released.
[QUOTE=Rubs10;45566803]Uhm wouldn't their license be revoked?[/QUOTE]
If their methodology is thought to be crap, then yes. But psychologists don't need to agree with each other on every case. Two opposing professional opinions can be considered legitimate, simultaneously.
So it's [I]not crazy[/I] to think that a professional psychologist could start with a conclusion, and then work backwards, trying to figure out a way to cleanly build evidence that supports them, while snipping out evidence that goes against them.
They can lie about their experiences with a patient. As well as succumb to subconscious confirmation bias when recording evidence. All while seeming perfectly professional, as their sessions with a patient are often confidential.
[QUOTE=Chubbs;45566929]It means she gets life in a mental institute rather than life in a prison.
Either way I doubt she'll get released.[/QUOTE]
She won't be released for a long time, but unless she relapses I doubt she'll be in for longer than 15 years. The point of it is that she gets the help she needs rather than a prison sentence.
Killer in a nutshell
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL1Xt3T9ZnY[/media]
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;45567632]Killer in a nutshell
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL1Xt3T9ZnY[/media][/QUOTE]
I get that you are only joking, but this dismissal of those with mental illness as "cuckoo" is really not nice. I would ask that in the future, you would please be more considerate.
[QUOTE=Kardia;45566976]If their methodology is thought to be crap, then yes. But psychologists don't need to agree with each other on every case. Two opposing professional opinions can be considered legitimate, simultaneously.
So it's [I]not crazy[/I] to think that a professional psychologist could start with a conclusion, and then work backwards, trying to figure out a way to cleanly build evidence that supports them, while snipping out evidence that goes against them.
They can lie about their experiences with a patient. As well as succumb to subconscious confirmation bias when recording evidence. All while seeming perfectly professional, as their sessions with a patient are often confidential.[/QUOTE]
With all the effort and cost that's required to actually get the license, and the fact that if you lose it, you're out of a livelihood, how likely do you think something like that is?
Especially with a publicized case that will get outside scrutiny.
[QUOTE=Rubs10;45564856]lol she's a little kid that attempted to murder another little kid for an internet ghost story
totally not crazy, and it's totally just a defense to save her, yep[/QUOTE]
People kill in the name of their god all the time. They are equally if not more so insane than this girl.
[QUOTE=Mebit;45568471]People kill in the name of their god all the time. They are equally if not more so insane than this girl.[/QUOTE]
It's different in that the creation of Slenderman happened in our lifetime, and it was very clearly made as fictional, whereas religious texts tend to be much, much, much older, and there was no "create your own religion" thread on Something Awful in 10 BC.
snip nvm
[QUOTE=PeejsterM;45568598]there was no "create your own religion" thread on Something Awful in 10 BC.[/QUOTE]
There's no way you can possibly know that.
[QUOTE=Doom14;45564883]lol insanity pleas can never be pulled out a respective ass in a pitch to avoid real punishment
totally everyone who ever pulls them insane, yep[/QUOTE]
This isn't an insanity plea, it's the court literally saying "we're not going to try this person because they won't understand the process".
[QUOTE=gary spivey;45565226]There was once a story about a kid who got stabbed 57 times with a screwdriver and then got buried alive, but survived[/QUOTE]
My friend wasn't as lucky. He got stabbed twice and died outside in the snow.
galen I don't know if you're still reading this thread but I really want to know why you believe in slenderman
I am genuinely curious
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