UK MP Jo Cox dies after reports of shooting and stabbing in West Yorkshire
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I know this sounds lame, but I think they should postpone the referendum... you can't do an election when the campaigns are in crisis like this. They were already a shambles but this is ridiculous.
Thomas Mair has been charged with murder
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36565801[/url]
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[img]http://i.imgur.com/195571g.jpg[/img]
Wow
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT! Keep pumping out this shit, YOU will no way help your side.
Edit: the sun has endorsed the Brexit side.
EDIT 2: Latest Poll after the Attack: [URL="http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/survation-ig-group-24693"]Survation/IG Poll 6/15/16[/URL]
When asked to confirm his name in court, he said "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain".
what a nutter
[QUOTE=Marzipas;50543140]When asked to confirm his name in court, he said "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain".
what a nutter[/QUOTE]
'Death to traitors' further emphasises that he specifically targeted this MP due to her stance on refugees as far as I can tell
[editline]18th June 2016[/editline]
[media]https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/744110024465784832[/media]
Mair campaigning with Britain First
[url]https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/17/jo-cox-suspect-thomas-mair-bought-gun-manuals-from-us-neo-nazis-group-claims[/url]
[QUOTE]Special police units who searched the house of the man arrested after the killing of MP Jo Cox are believed to have found samples of Nazi regalia and far-right literature.[/QUOTE]
[media]https://twitter.com/J_Bloodworth/status/744118271071391744[/media]
[media]https://twitter.com/omaromalleykhan/status/743874259563450368[/media]
[QUOTE=smurfy;50541483][img]http://i.imgur.com/195571g.jpg[/img]
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We do have tabloids here in Denmark, but holy shit that's fucking disgusting.
The Sun is an insufferable shit-rag and probably bears a deal of responsibility for what tipped this man over the edge. One assumes a mentally ill neo-Nazi constantly being told that muslims were threatening his livelihood is probably a recipe for disaster.
[QUOTE=Marzipas;50543140]When asked to confirm his name in court, he said "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain".
what a nutter[/QUOTE]
Islamistic Extremist:
ISLAM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH WESTERN WORLD BE AWARE OF MUSLIMS
Right Wing Extremist:
Confused loner
[QUOTE=Marzipas;50543140]When asked to confirm his name in court, he said "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain".
what a nutter[/QUOTE]
And I bet there's still idiots on here and across the country who will still argue there's a conspiracy.
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[media]https://twitter.com/J_Bloodworth/status/744118271071391744[/media]
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[QUOTE=Killuah;50543410]Islamistic Extremist:
ISLAM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH WESTERN WORLD BE AWARE OF MUSLIMS
Right Wing Extremist:
Confused loner[/QUOTE]
I'm with [media]https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/status/744109052662288384[/media] on this stuff.
This whole thing is a crazy bloody mess of everybody stepping over each other in the media and politics. Pisstake for us that would vote leave without any of this "DEATH TO TRAITORS" bullshit
[QUOTE=Killuah;50543410]Islamistic Extremist:
ISLAM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH WESTERN WORLD BE AWARE OF MUSLIMS
Right Wing Extremist:
Confused loner[/QUOTE]
Right wing extremist murder is much rarer than muslim extremist murder but I don't think the majority sentiment is that this man is a confused loner to be honest. The outrage is the same as it would be for anyone that gets gunned down by an extremist.
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;50543993]This whole thing is a crazy bloody mess of everybody stepping over each other in the media and politics. Pisstake for us that would vote leave without any of this "DEATH TO TRAITORS" bullshit[/QUOTE]
I hope you guys get out despite this event. Good luck.
I'm thinking about this, there is no way in hell this will not change the vote.
The Inflammatory Rhetoric is down.
Conflicting reports on whether he was campaigning with Briton First.
Shouting "Death To Traitors" at Trial.
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What the shit
Britain first's handling of this is dreadful
they refused to stop their propaganda shit ball service for at least a day to pay respects (even UKIP did this + said they wouldn't contest her seat in the byelection)
they keep comparing this to Lee Rigby in terms of international reactions
no acknowledgment that they know they have crazies inside their organisation (not to mention most of their supporters are disgruntled National Front members)
and they keep bringing this up
all they had to do, in my opinion was observe a day of silence out of respect, post a statement (which they did in form of a video) saying that they do not condone this sort of behaviour and move on from there
but no, keep bringing it up, keep saying the media are telling lies, keep adding more fuel on the fire
like jesus christ these guys are cringe
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;50544184]Right wing extremist murder is much rarer than muslim extremist murder but I don't think the majority sentiment is that this man is a confused loner to be honest. The outrage is the same as it would be for anyone that gets gunned down by an extremist.[/QUOTE]
Muslim extremism - is - right winged, why do people here think its not? Comparing Tommy to the recent Omar guy is equally naive.
Anyway: [url]http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/17/swedish-politicians-death-13-years-ago-mirrors-murder-of-uk-lawmaker.html[/url]
"Swedish politician’s death 13 years ago mirrors murder of UK lawmaker"
Conspiracy theories running rampant now.
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;50544184]Right wing extremist murder is much rarer than muslim extremist murder but I don't think the majority sentiment is that this man is a confused loner to be honest. The outrage is the same as it would be for anyone that gets gunned down by an extremist.[/QUOTE]
It's really not that much rarer. Sovereign citizens in the US kill police officers for little more than trying to ticket them when they break laws. Right wing groups have a history of going around threatening or using violence to put minority groups down. Numerous mass shooters in the US have all been right-leaning individuals or straight up Nazi sympathisers.
This isn't a problem of "Islam or not", this is a problem of extremist beliefs. Any group, given enough prodding towards extremist ideals, will commit murder with little second thought. But it's never reported as politically motivated in their cases because that doesn't make as good as story as "crazy brown people want to kill us all!!!!".
[QUOTE=smurfy;50541483][img]http://i.imgur.com/195571g.jpg[/img]
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Since seeing this I've heard they did it to not prejudice the court case, but I'm not convinced. They could of used better wording if that is the case.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;50544364]It's really not that much rarer. Sovereign citizens in the US kill police officers for little more than trying to ticket them when they break laws. Right wing groups have a history of going around threatening or using violence to put minority groups down. Numerous mass shooters in the US have all been right-leaning individuals or straight up Nazi sympathisers.
This isn't a problem of "Islam or not", this is a problem of extremist beliefs. Any group, given enough prodding towards extremist ideals, will commit murder with little second thought. But it's never reported as politically motivated in their cases because that doesn't make as good as story as "crazy brown people want to kill us all!!!!".[/QUOTE]
I disagree, anything Nazi is as headline grabbing as Muslim.
It's not exactly the same though comparing someone who guns down a cop for ticketing them (regardless of their political leaning) to a person who is hell bent on mass murder for a so called religious ideology.
It looks like this Thomas Mair guy had pretty severe mental health problems. He had taken medication for depression and even went to a health clinic to get help the day before doing the murder.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50548235][media]https://twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/status/744450017222598656[/media][/QUOTE]
I really hope they get exactly one vpte (the candidate).
[QUOTE=sgman91;50547972]It looks like this Thomas Mair guy had pretty severe mental health problems. He had taken medication for depression and even went to a health clinic to get help the day before doing the murder.[/QUOTE]
I've got depression, lots of my friends have depression.
This guy sought identity and purpose. Far right hatred and xenophobia gave him that identity and purpose. The extremists who spread hatred are Equally guilty of his crimes. Don't be a far right apologist and pretend the sick rhetoric didn't play some role in this.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50548541]I've got depression, lots of my friends have depression.
This guy sought identity and purpose. Far right hatred and xenophobia gave him that identity and purpose. The extremists who spread hatred are Equally guilty of his crimes. Don't be a far right apologist and pretend the sick rhetoric didn't play some role in this.[/QUOTE]
I would be depressed as well if I brooded as much about the far right and xenophobia as some here do.
The guy is a fruitloop and vulnerable, much the same as the myriad fruitloop's that ISIS take advantage of to further their cause. This is how extremists work.
[QUOTE=Killuah;50543410]Islamistic Extremist:
ISLAM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH WESTERN WORLD BE AWARE OF MUSLIMS
Right Wing Extremist:
Confused loner[/QUOTE]
It is known he was on and off in mental institutions and on some severe medication.
If an Islamist would have checked in and out mental institutions before blowing up shit we would say the same... crazed loner talked into doing extreme stuff by a fringe political party saying stuff it does not expect people to take literally...
You are basically talking like the sun would headline.
Nigel Farage reminds us all he's a gigantic tosspot.
[url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-jo-cox-dead-murdered-peston-brexit-eu-referendum-ukip-political-hatred-a7089996.html[/url]
A former BNP member has announced he will contest the seat
[url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/dead-murdered-labour-mp-batley-and-spen-by-election-bnp-politician-jack-buckby-a7089966.html[/url]
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