[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;49487091]The flat management system has been in place pretty much since their beginning near as I've seen, so arguably thats the only reason you ever got anything you liked in the first place, and hasn't somehow been proven to not work other than "No one is doing what I want!". What the fuck does "an over-reliance on microtransactions" even mean? Like I said, nebulous and arbitrary. Not having a dedicated PR team isn't good, but that has shit all to do with them as a developer, just means they're shit at communicating outside the company.
The fucks broken? That they're not making what YOU want when YOU want it the way YOU want it? Get over yourself.[/QUOTE]
whatever dude i can see you're pretty crispy about this topic, i'm not gonna argue with you like this, the pure fact that you're defending them right now betrays your delusion
[editline]8th January 2016[/editline]
for future reference to anyone that isn't doctor zedacon, valve is a corporation, and corporations should be held accountable when [I]they[/I] make a promise to the consumer that they fail to deliver, instead of telling the consumers to go fuck themselves for believing the corporation's promise in the first place
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;49487179]whatever dude i can see you're pretty crispy about this topic, i'm not gonna argue with you like this, the pure fact that you're defending them right now betrays your delusion
[editline]8th January 2016[/editline]
for future reference to anyone that isn't doctor zedacon, valve is a corporation, and corporations should be held accountable when [I]they[/I] make a promise to the consumer that they fail to deliver, instead of telling the consumers to go fuck themselves for believing the corporation's promise in the first place[/QUOTE]
What promise? Did they sign a legally binding contract to you for something? Then sue them, you have every legal right if that is the case. When did they tell you to go fuck yourself? I'd be interested in seeing that, would certainly be an impressive revelation about them.
I defend them when people make up stupid bullshit and try to use that for their crap argument.
yeah but why are you defending them
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;49487229]yeah but why are you defending them[/QUOTE]
What, just let people make up bullshit about them and then repeat it adnausium and try to use it as as though it were legitimate criticism? Yeah, no, sounds like a shitty thing to let someone do.
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;49487229]yeah but why are you defending them[/QUOTE]
he said why
to combat the utterly ridiculous extreme posts that are just all bile and vitrol and no logic or reason
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;49487179]for future reference to anyone that isn't doctor zedacon, valve is a corporation, and corporations should be held accountable when [I]they[/I] make a promise to the consumer that they fail to deliver, instead of telling the consumers to go fuck themselves for believing the corporation's promise in the first place[/QUOTE]
I'm not one to defend Valve, but there is no such promise other than by yourself. They have no obligation to make HL3, which is partly why they won't make it.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;49487252]What, just let people make up bullshit about them and then repeat it adnausium and try to use it as as though it were legitimate criticism? Yeah, no, sounds like a shitty thing to let someone do.[/QUOTE]
you still haven't told me why you're defending them
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;49487269]you still haven't told me why you're defending them[/QUOTE]
yes he has
people make up bullshit
he's "defending"(by not buying into bullshit) them because there's no need to create that bullshit to get mad about at all
jesus
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;49487030]'nebulous' and 'arbitrary' reasons like a flat management structure [B]that's been proven to not work[/B] and an over-reliance on microtransactions and literally zero PR, but nope those are just memes right? valve can do no wrong[/quote]
Valve can do plenty wrong, look at the paid modding fiasco, L4D2's 'rushed' release date, but they're far from being bad.
Also, you say the flat structure has been proven not to work, but Valve has continued to grow and capture more PC gamers, and more of the market. Whether or not it's good at making games is arguable, but it's obviously been successful for becoming a market behemoth.
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;49487030]
imagine being so far up your own ass that you actually seriously attempt to defend one of the most broken corporations currently in the video game industry[/QUOTE]
:shitposting:
Valve is far from "One of the most broken corporations in the video game industry", the games they're currently working on are among the most popular and regularly updated games ever made, Dota 2 and CS:GO both receive regular patches and additional content, and have growing playebases. Where almost every other major publisher/dev pushes pre-orders and microtransactions that impact the gameplay. Despite what you think, Valve does listen to feedback, but they only act on what they feel is important. Just because they don't bend to every whim and ideas guy on the internet, doesn't mean they aren't listening.
the cult of personality is strong
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;49487337]the cult of personality is strong[/QUOTE]
No.
You're saying they "promised".
FACTUALLY, that's not true.
Why should I tolerate a lie I know to be a lie because you insist so?
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;49487337]the cult of personality is strong[/QUOTE]
The blind rage is stronger
you're not wrong
You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!
That's how I basically sum up Valve on Half-Life 3 or episode 3 (whichever you prefer) for the past eight years after seeing this. If it comes out I will forgive them but eight years of absolute silence with no hints or development news at all after the cliff hanger ending of episode 2 is no excuse. And Gabe Newell should be ashamed of himself. At least with Team fortress 2 which took 10 years to come out they didn't give us a massive cliff hanger like episode 2 had. Gabe Newell sold himself out and has forgot his roots.
[editline]8th January 2016[/editline]
Valve's fan base is also almost as bad has the Fallout fan base at this point it's full of angry bitter members wondering why the company has abandoned them and basically left them hanging. For eight years
Ok so since we won't have any more half life games, here's my own continuation of the story:
gordon&co fucking give up after eli's death and live for a couple more months before advisor attacks finally get them
the end, time to kill myself
[QUOTE=mark6789;49487129]Half-life 3 will be a WiiU exclusive[/QUOTE]
And it will be capped at 30fps.
[editline]8th January 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Episode;49486225]Half-Life 3 is never going to happen.[/QUOTE]
If it comes out I'll take back everything I said but until then the proof is in the pudding.
[QUOTE=Megalan;49484065]well... good luck finding another writer who is ready to work like that.[/QUOTE]
Eh, actually sounds like the scratch writing I've been doing with Pen and Paper games. You have a thing you want the player to do, and then you invent reasons and circumstances for this thing to be important through the world and other characters. So you go on like this and try to arrange these things in a coherent string, or set of strings, and at the end you should have the story you were looking for.
You'd need several passes to add color to it and make it respectable, but if the story is being jointly written in tandem with game development then it can be changed along with it on the fly. Which means of course most of what would be HL3 is sitting in peoples heads rather than on a script somewhere, and it'll stay that way until it actually begins development.
[QUOTE=Exploders;49483553]We did it boyos, we made Marc leave with our ARG[/QUOTE]
He probably was already leaving anyway.
[QUOTE=damnatus;49487494]Ok so since we won't have any more half life games, here's my own continuation of the story:
gordon&co fucking give up after eli's death and live for a couple more months before advisor attacks finally get them
the end, time to kill myself[/QUOTE]
The only true ending to the series can only be:
When the Advisor dropped Gordon he hit the floor with his head and died slowily. The end.
I wonder if this means that he can talk about where he wanted HL3/EP3 to go. Like who/what the G-Man is and that sort of thing.
[QUOTE=markg06;49483289]If it's true I hope he does an expose on Valve, there's been disgruntled ex-staff before that got dismissed as just being bitter from leaving but it'd be a bit stupid to dismiss someone as high up as this.[/QUOTE]
b-b-b-b-but valve is flat. T-t-t-there is no h-h-h-h-higher up-p.
:downs:
Theres a hell of a lot of kneejerk rage for little to no reason in here.
TBH HL3 will be nothing special. Half-Life was a revolutionary game because it revolutionized PC FPSs. Half-Life 2 was an equally revolutionary game because it was extremely advanced graphics-wise and again totally changed the FPS genre for years to come.
Half-Life 3.... TBH I just can't see it doing anything new, if it even exists.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;49488156]b-b-b-b-but valve is flat. T-t-t-there is no h-h-h-h-higher up-p.
:downs:[/QUOTE]
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Poor Chet.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;49488291]TBH HL3 will be nothing special. Half-Life was a revolutionary game because it revolutionized PC FPSs. Half-Life 2 was an equally revolutionary game because it was extremely advanced graphics-wise and again totally changed the FPS genre for years to come.
Half-Life 3.... TBH I just can't see it doing anything new, if it even exists.[/QUOTE]
At this point I think people just want an official ending to the story.
I just want to continue the story, release it on source 1, I really don't care.
[QUOTE=Wormy;49488400]Probably waiting for the next big thing in gaming. Half-Life 1 and Half-Life 2 were both very impressive looking games at the time, and they also revolutionized the way you handle storytelling in-game.
VR sounds like something Valve could definitely try out with Half-Life 3, now is their chance to make it shine.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.pcgamer.com/valve-writer-says-half-life-3-will-not-be-a-vr-game/]It was confirmed back in September by one of the writers (Chet) that Half-Life 3 wont be a virtual reality game.[/url]
[QUOTE=AaronM202;49488259]Theres a hell of a lot of kneejerk rage for little to no reason in here.[/QUOTE]
I think it's more a release of the pent up anger of being dicked around for 8 years and the sudden feeling of dread when you see the team of people you were waiting on start to disintegrate
[QUOTE=Amaurus;49488790][url=http://www.pcgamer.com/valve-writer-says-half-life-3-will-not-be-a-vr-game/]It was confirmed back in September by one of the writers (Chet) that Half-Life 3 wont be a virtual reality game.[/url][/QUOTE]
I hate to be one of these guys, but he definitely wouldn't have said "yes" to that question. Nothing's confirmed or denied on that (but making VR a requirement/gimmick for a game is a bad idea anyway).
[QUOTE=Maloof?;49488800]I think it's more a release of the pent up anger of being dicked around for 8 years and the sudden feeling of dread when you see the team of people you were waiting on start to disintegrate[/QUOTE]
b..but.. valve can do no wrong.........
damn those disgusting greasy Gamers™ who ruined my chances of playing hl3!!!! they upset my dear sweet valve and itll never happen now!!!!
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