Teacher is hired, then immediately fired from school due to visible tattoos
287 replies, posted
This thread: DON'T JUDGE PEOPLE IT'S WRONG (everyone here is judging each other based off of their posts.)
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;46304529]To be honest, you come off as pretentious. Not everyone has to like everything.
The whole purity thing is just the foundation. I also think they just look ugly.[/QUOTE]
Ugly is fine. But you shouldn't find that entirely offputting to spend time with or around them or even have a conversation with them. Different tastes and such is all well and good, but when you step into the line of the aforementioned. It's a bit far.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46304542]Thanks for a more specific explanation of what I just said?[/QUOTE]
You said nothing informative, just insulting me.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46304496]Judging and not liking is not the same thing[/QUOTE]
in this case they're obv inseparable. this is the same as judging on race, gender, etc. baseless assumptions made on the character of a person from some trivial visual difference. imagine sharing these thoughts with a blind person, they'd laugh in your face.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;46304412]So if you were screening candidates for a new job and you had two deserving applicants, one slightly more qualified than the other but with tattoos, you'd quietly give it to the less qualified person because you wouldn't feel comfortable working with someone with inked skin?[/QUOTE]
Depends on the job and how things could be handled (if applicant would wear a shirt or something covering them IF the job called for it)
Sadly, appearances matter.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46304554]You said nothing informative, just insulting me.[/QUOTE]
Sorry I actually took time to understand your point of view and with that learned that immediately think ill of someone if they have some harmless body modification.
At least I'm judging you by your personality and not if you have a tattoo or not, at least I gave a chance to know you.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;46304567]in this case they're obv inseparable. this is the same as judging on race, gender, etc. baseless assumptions made on the character of a person from some trivial visual difference. imagine sharing these thoughts with a blind person, they'd laugh in your face.[/QUOTE]
What's next, you're gonna tell me looks don't matter?
[editline]22nd October 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46304573]
At least I'm judging you by your personality and not if you have a tattoo or not, at least I gave a chance to know you.[/QUOTE]
Hardly. You jumped to insults simply because I have a certain preference that does not match your morals.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46304575]What's next, you're gonna tell me looks don't matter?[/QUOTE]
Looks matter something, sure, but you don't have to be so fucking picky.
Remember, if you ever get called a bigot- apply your statement to a group of people you aren't already prejudiced against and see if it still sounds okay.
"i would never talk to someone wearing a turban, i just don't feel comfortable around them" - "you know what kind of attitude a black person is gonna have just by looking at the colour of their skin"- "if someone is gay I already know we aren't going to get along!".
Im not saying you are automatically just the worst shit ever for being prejudiced against tattooed people, but i am saying judging someone on their looks is a habit you should definitely try to kick.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46304575]What's next, you're gonna tell me looks don't matter?[/QUOTE]
Matter for what? People only think they matter for the majority of things simply because shallow and judgemental people spread that bullshit and cancerous mentality amongst others and its snowballed.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46304575] Hardly. You jumped to insults simply because I have a certain preference that does not match your morals.[/QUOTE]
I didn't jump to anything, I took time to understand why you don't like them, you're the one jumping to conclusions on them, so why are you complaining about this?
Let me ask you this, would you not approach your parents or siblings if one of them got a tattoo or piercing?
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;46304427]You're not allowed to have a personal preferences without being called a bigot.[/QUOTE]
isn't being uncomfortable around people for their personal preference bigoted?
[QUOTE=fulgrim;46303558]Never understood why people have an issue hiring people with tattoos, piercings are different as they could be a health and safety issue in some jobs, but unless you have something like "FUCK COPS" tattooed on your face in place of eyebrows- then it doesn't affect your ability to do your job at all- who gives a shit?.
I hear people saying "oh well it might upset certain customers who don't like tattoos"- and again, who gives a shit? im pretty sure there are people knocking about who would be upset if you hired people of different ethnic groups to them, or hired homosexuals or even hired people of different faiths/lack of religion- and we don't hire based on their judgemental views.[/QUOTE]
That's actually pretty much why. I have seen first hand that some uptight customers get vocally angry that someone with tattoos is in the workplace. By the way, I worked at a car dealership in the mechanic shop, hardly the most neat and tidy place in the world. I've actually heard customers complain to the supervisor that we let "criminals and low-lifes" work on their cars. Some people are that fucking pathetic.
In the US at least, ethnicity and religion are protected classes for hiring. Sexuality isn't quite there yet, but I'm sure its on the way. But I'm sure some scumbag employers would discriminate against those if they could.
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;46304419]"I don't like people that are different than me because they have a little ink or metal on their skin". Pretty dickish thing to say.[/QUOTE]
Or maybe he gets squeamish when he looks at it?
I can't stand lobe stretchers or stretchers of any kind because they sometimes stretch it so much, it looks disgusting. I just start imagining a saggy ear lobe, then getting it stuck somewhere and accidentally ripping through the thin line of skin.
And don't even talk about the people who put stretchers in the space between the lower lip and the chin, revealing the teeth and gum. Same thing for people who get those bumpy things on their head or piercings with 2 balls stuck to your skin with a bar inside of you.
Despite this, I'm totally fine with one on the belly button or on the eyebrow.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46304599]I didn't jump to anything, I took time to understand why you don't like them, you're the one jumping to conclusions on them, so why are you complaining about this?
Let me ask you this, would you not approach your parents or siblings if one of them got a tattoo or piercing?[/QUOTE]
I'm also intrigued what he would do if he had spoke to a person for a long period and got on really well with them, only for said person to take off a sweater and expose some tattoo. Would he just up and walk away and stick to his stubborn and misguided perception of character based on trivial cosmetic judgement.
What if a life long friend got a tattoo and piercings would he suddenly cut them out of his life for it?
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;46304588]Matter for what? People only think they matter for the majority of things simply because shallow and judgemental people spread that bullshit and cancerous mentality amongst others and its snowballed.[/QUOTE]
Thinking looks matter is shallow? Yeah lets stop taking care of ourselves, walk around all messy dressed like hobos. You need a reality check. Though my point is invalid since hipsters already do that.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46304615]Thinking looks matter is shallow? Yeah lets stop taking care of ourselves, walk around all messy dressed like hobos. You need a reality check. Though my point is invalid since hipsters already do that.[/QUOTE]
He didn't even said that, nice bullshit you just did.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;46304427]You're not allowed to have a personal preferences without being called a bigot.[/QUOTE]
Same as saying something not so positive about some minority, you're automatically racist/bigot/whatever else they make up
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;46304613]I'm also intrigued what he would do if he had spoke to a person for a long period and got on really well with them, only for said person to take off a sweater and expose some tattoo. Would he just up and walk away and stick to his stubborn and misguided perception of character based on trivial cosmetic judgement.
What if a life long friend got a tattoo and piercings would he suddenly cut them out of his life for it?[/QUOTE]
Dislike is not dealbreaker. Come on, why do you jump from one extreme to another.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46304575]What's next, you're gonna tell me looks don't matter?[/QUOTE]
not particularly, no. the interesting thing about being self aware is that we have the capability to reflect on and transcend the things we previously thought. its really not very difficult to stop yourself from judging the quality of a person based off differences of no significance, and it confuses me that you somehow do think they're important.
I'm sure if I saw how you looked it wouldn't have, but now that we've talked I know you're lame as heck and reason poorly.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46304615]Thinking looks matter is shallow? Yeah lets stop taking care of ourselves, walk around all messy dressed like hobos. You need a reality check. Though my point is invalid since hipsters already do that.[/QUOTE]
Looks aren't mutually exclusive to looking after yourself. Most judgements based on looks are entirely determined by what the majority of people deem as "Acceptable" People are sometimes a bit overweight due to reasons they can't control. Or aren't the "Ideal look" simply because they weren't "Born pretty" or some bullshit. Some people have horrible skin conditions, or birth defects such as vertilgo. How does that equate looking after yourself? Healthy and good looking are linked but only because of what you PERCEIVE as good looking in a manner of speaking.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46304615]Thinking looks matter is shallow? Yeah lets stop taking care of ourselves, walk around all messy dressed like hobos. You need a reality check. Though my point is invalid since hipsters already do that.[/QUOTE]
there's a difference between being unhygienic and not caring about looks :)
and it's kinda pretty bad if you judge people based on looks
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;46304635]Looks aren't mutually exclusive to looking after yourself. Most judgements based on looks are entirely determined by what the majority of people deem as "Acceptable" People are sometimes a bit overweight due to reasons they can't control. Or aren't the "Ideal look" simply because they weren't "Born pretty" or some bullshit. Some people have horrible skin conditions, or birth defects such as vertilgo. How does that equate looking after yourself? Healthy and good looking are linked but only because of what you PERCEIVE as good looking in a manner of speaking.[/QUOTE]
If you don't take care of yourself you will look like shit. No need for defects or conditions. Im not talking about health at all here.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46304599]I didn't jump to anything, I took time to understand why you don't like them, you're the one jumping to conclusions on them, so why are you complaining about this?
Let me ask you this, would you not approach your parents or siblings if one of them got a tattoo or piercing?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;46304613]I'm also intrigued what he would do if he had spoke to a person for a long period and got on really well with them, only for said person to take off a sweater and expose some tattoo. Would he just up and walk away and stick to his stubborn and misguided perception of character based on trivial cosmetic judgement.
What if a life long friend got a tattoo and piercings would he suddenly cut them out of his life for it?[/QUOTE]
You call me judgmental but here you are making massive assumptions about my character based on a personal preference.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46304624]Dislike is not dealbreaker. Come on, why do you jump from one extreme to another.[/QUOTE]
You yourself said that people with tattoo's are the kind of people you wouldn't approach or talk to based on your OWN cosmetic judgements.
I'm just going off what YOU say and asking a hypothetical question based on your words.
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;46304437]The fact that he dislikes someone and says HIMSELF that the "Kinds of people who get them" are people he has no interest in, is made uncomfortable by and wouldn't want to be around without knowing them merely implies that he thinks lower of them. Purely because they have some ink on their body or some metal in their skin.[/QUOTE]
So, because I don't like a certain kind of people and have no interest in them, I'm actually saying they are beneath me because of their choices?
Where the hell do you get all of this stuff? It's like you're trying to find a reason to be mad and to call someone a bigot.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;46304647]You call me judgmental but here you are making massive assumptions about my character based on a personal preference.[/QUOTE]
It's not an assumption, it's a question, that's why there's an interrogation point at the end of the sentences.
TALK ABOUT ASSUMPTIONS.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;46304653]So, because I don't like a certain kind of people and have no interest in them, I'm actually saying they are beneath me because of their choices?
Where the hell do you get all of this stuff? It's like you're trying to find a reason to be mad and to call someone a bigot.[/QUOTE]
can you elaborate on what kind of people get a tattoo
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;46304648]You yourself said that people with tattoo's are the kind of people you wouldn't approach or talk to based on your OWN cosmetic judgements.
I'm just going off what YOU say and asking a hypothetical question based on your words.[/QUOTE]
If they do it first I won't refuse or run away crying. But I will not make a first move simply because you have something I don't like. Same way I won't approach people wearing v necks or people who have justin bieber t-shirt on.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;46304646]If you don't take care of yourself you will look like shit. No need for defects or conditions. Im not talking about health at all here.[/QUOTE]
You are the one whom bought up looks in relation to looking after yourself. Hence Health...so technically we are.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;46304647]You call me judgmental but here you are making massive assumptions about my character based on a personal preference.[/QUOTE]
Difference is. I wouldn't cut you out or not talk to you or avoid you in a social manner simply because you possess the trait to preemptivly judge someone based on cosmetic perception.
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