[QUOTE=Sanius;30902772]the only thing that bothers me is the dense population of disagreeable people in this thread who are derailing it
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I think you missed the post where we compared you to Glaber and you didn't know what that meant.
So I'm sorry but you seem to be the dense one here.
Along with being a raging feminist.
[QUOTE=Dr. Freeman;30902781]But what about equality?[/QUOTE]
how do you think equality is to be achieved for women? by taking shit from misogynists and conforming to what they think an ideal woman is? sod off
[QUOTE=Sanius;30902772]the only thing that bothers me is the dense population of disagreeable people in this thread who are derailing it[/QUOTE]
And they think exactly the same about you.
[QUOTE=Sanius;30902772]
I only answer people who aren't going out of their way to be an asshole toward me just because they disagree with my opinions[/QUOTE]
[I]"I don't wanna talk to them because they're meanies :saddowns:"[/I]
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Oh c'mon sweetie, can't we talk about this??
[QUOTE=Autumn;30902724]
i think you mean it's seen as acceptable.[/QUOTE]
Sexism against men is funny. As would be any comment that implied Albert Einstein is a common idiot.
[QUOTE=Autumn;30902724]probably because you come across as a highly unattractive individual, in every sense of the word. sure, there might be *someone* out there for you, but the general population isn't gonna go for you.[/QUOTE]
This is what I mean. You don't even know me, or the chicks in question for that matter.
How can you draw conclusions like this?
[QUOTE=Sanius;30902825]how do you think equality is to be achieved for women? by taking shit from misogynists and conforming to what they think an ideal woman is? sod off[/QUOTE]
Equality can't be achieved if either group resorts to shit-slinging and insulting the other. Just because the repressed group are now attacking and standing up against the oppressing group doesn't make them equal. Both sides need to see each other as the same, and that just cannot happen when either side is being racist/ sexist.
Your arguments are fucking awful. Get banned again.
[QUOTE=Sanius;30902825]how do you think equality is to be achieved for women? by taking shit from misogynists and conforming to what they think an ideal woman is? sod off[/QUOTE]
No, insulting the fuck out of men and then screaming 'we just want fair and equal treatment' is gonna help.
Christ, you're dense as all shit, aren't you?
[QUOTE=Sanius;30902825]how do you think equality is to be achieved for women? by taking shit from misogynists and conforming to what they think an ideal woman is? sod off[/QUOTE]
Woman shouldn't take it, but it doesn't mean they should talk back, they should act better then men and not like [i]children[/i] by responding intelligently.
I know woman have a hidden intelligence that they may not always show. I know for a fact that woman can also be stronger then any man alive, simply by the fact that a woman is able to crap life, and go through 12 hours of agonizing pain after 9 months of aches. If you can't respect this, then you are a douche bag.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;30902867]Equality can't be achieved if either group resorts to shit-slinging and insulting the other. Just because the repressed group are now attacking and standing up against the oppressing group doesn't make them equal. Both sides need to see each other as the same, and that just cannot happen when either side is being racist/ sexist.
Your arguments are fucking awful. Get banned again.[/QUOTE]
Preferably perma'd.
because this is exactly the kind of attitude that is unattractive.
"but how?
how do you know i'm never going to get laid
you couldn't possibly know
there's many girls out there
you don't know
how do you know??"
Oh hey, look. A box from Sanius. CARE TO ELABORATE?
EDIT: My auto-merge AGAIN.
EDIT 2:
[QUOTE=Autumn;30902880]because this is exactly the kind of attitude that is unattractive.
"but how?
how do you know i'm never going to get laid
you couldn't possibly know
there's many girls out there
you don't know
how do you know??"[/QUOTE]
Asking questions out of curiosity is unattractive? If that's the case, I don't want to be attractive.
[QUOTE=Sanius;30902825]how do you think equality is to be achieved for women?[/QUOTE]
By actually encouraging equality rather than your idea of saying 'you were oppressed, therefore it's your turn to oppress now,' letting the original oppressers become the suppressed, which by your logic would give them the right to start oppressing again, going on back and forth ad nauseum?
[QUOTE=ThisGuy0;30902900]By actually encouraging equality rather than your idea of saying 'you were oppressed, therefore it's your turn to oppress now,' letting the original oppressers become the suppressed, which by your logic would give them the right to start oppressing again, going on back and forth ad nauseum?[/QUOTE]
Basically a constant loop of dumb that will just repeat forever because both sides feel they are entitled to strike back instead of just manning up and saying "we see you as equal to us, see us as equal to you and we can stop this bullshit".
[QUOTE=Sanius;30902290]what is that even supposed to mean[/QUOTE]
heh heh just fucking with you
also people in this thread seem to not understand the difference between malignant sexism and benign sexism
sexism against men is quite benign compared to sexism against women. for instance, women who are sexist against men are seen as extreme and "feminazi" while men sexist against women are in the highest places and not seen as crazy
in fact, look at the people in the republican party. they're sexist as hell!
[QUOTE=ThisGuy0;30902900]By actually encouraging equality rather than your idea of saying 'you were oppressed, therefore it's your turn to oppress now,' letting the original oppressers become the suppressed, which by your logic would give them the right to start oppressing again, going on back and forth ad nauseum?[/QUOTE]
[I]Eye for an eye[/I] might be satisfying, but it's gonna bite ones ass sooner or later.
[QUOTE=ThisGuy0;30902900]By actually encouraging equality rather than your idea of saying 'you were oppressed, therefore it's your turn to oppress now,' letting the original oppressers become the suppressed, which by your logic would give them the right to start oppressing again, going on back and forth ad nauseum?[/QUOTE]
I think he's giving up or getting desperate. He's giving boxes to people who aren't even insulting him.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;30902927]Basically a constant loop of dumb that will just repeat forever because both sides feel they are entitled to strike back instead of just manning up and saying "we see you as equal to us, see us as equal to you and we can stop this bullshit".[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Swinging back and forth either side of equality is not equality, however much Sanius might want it to be.
[QUOTE=thisispain;30902933]heh heh just fucking with you
also people in this thread seem to not understand the difference between malignant sexism and benign sexism
sexism against men is quite benign compared to sexism against women. for instance, women who are sexist against men are seen as extreme and "feminazi" while men sexist against women are in the highest places and not seen as crazy
in fact, look at the people in the republican party. they're sexist as hell![/QUOTE]
But that's still not helping their point. Sure, sexism against men isn't generally regarded as harshly as the other way around but that doesn't make it alright. It only makes the situation worse.
[QUOTE=Bobv2;30902888]Asking questions out of curiosity is unattractive? If that's the case, I don't want to be attractive.[/QUOTE]
the fact that you feel the need to question it is what's bad. people will say "you'll never get laid" all the time, it's a pretty generic insult, but if you're actually stopping to go "but how could they know that? they couldn't possibly know that!" instead of brushing it off and ignoring it is where you're going wrong
you people are either ignorant or choose to ignore the fact that women are discriminated against in almost every walk of life and aren't even allowed control over their bodies
it's really easy to shrug off the struggles of the female sex when you're a male
[QUOTE=Sanius;30902976]you people are either ignorant or choose to ignore the fact that women are discriminated against in almost every walk of life [b]and aren't even allowed control over their bodies[/b]
it's really easy to shrug off the struggles of the female sex when you're a male[/QUOTE]
uhm... okay. lol
[editline]5th July 2011[/editline]
what does that even mean?
[QUOTE=Sanius;30902976]you people are either ignorant or choose to ignore the fact that women are discriminated against in almost every walk of life and aren't even allowed control over their bodies
it's really easy to shrug off the struggles of the female sex when you're a male[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dr. Freeman;30902873]Woman shouldn't take it, but it doesn't mean they should talk back, they should act better then men and not like [i]children[/i] by responding intelligently.
I know woman have a hidden intelligence that they may not always show. I know for a fact that woman can also be stronger then any man alive, simply by the fact that a woman is able to crap life, and go through 12 hours of agonizing pain after 9 months of aches. If you can't respect this, then you are a douche bag.[/QUOTE]
Really? I'm ignorant? and I shrug off the struggles?
I donated $1000 to womans awareness programs... but I ignore the struggles according to you.
It's people like you that make woman discriminated against.
[h2] PLEASE note this, PLEASE [/h2]
[QUOTE=Sanius;30902976]you people are either ignorant or choose to ignore the fact that women are discriminated against in almost every walk of life and aren't even allowed control over their bodies
it's really easy to shrug off the struggles of the female sex when you're a male[/QUOTE]
Are you stuck in the 60s by any chance?
[QUOTE=Sanius;30902994][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_Laws[/url][/QUOTE]
So any kind of abortion law is considered misogynistic now or are we meant to be picking up on a finer detail?
[QUOTE=Sanius;30902976]you people are either ignorant or choose to ignore the fact that women are discriminated against in almost every walk of life and aren't even allowed control over their bodies[/QUOTE]
Last time I checked, we're not in the middle east.
Go down there and bother them about that.
Or Republicans, your choice really.
[QUOTE=Sanius;30902976]it's really easy to shrug off the struggles of the female sex when you're a male[/QUOTE]
I was just [B]WAITING[/B] for you to pull the [I]"victim"[/I] card
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;30902966]But that's still not helping their point. Sure, sexism against men isn't generally regarded as harshly as the other way around but that doesn't make it alright. It only makes the situation worse.[/QUOTE]
yeah but being sexist against men doesn't mean anything. it's benign. it doesn't make any situation worse because people who have the lesser power don't have power over the situation.
to say being sexist against men makes the situation worse is a gross misunderstanding of what the situation actually is.
[QUOTE=Sanius;30902994][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_Laws[/url][/QUOTE]
to which you could easily argue that it's their responsibility not to get themselves into such a position by ensuring they use adequate protection.
granted, rape cases where the woman is forced to keep the child and such are pretty fucked up, but to make a sweeping statement that "women aren't even allowed control over their bodies" is a bit far stretched
[editline]5th July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Van-man;30903034]I was just [B]WAITING[/B] for you to pull the [I]"victim"[/I] card[/QUOTE]
i'm confused, is Sanius male or female?
[editline]5th July 2011[/editline]
by birth, not by choice
[QUOTE=thisispain;30903051]yeah but being sexist against men doesn't mean anything. it's benign. it doesn't make any situation worse because people who have the lesser power don't have power over the situation.
to say being sexist against men makes the situation worse is a gross misunderstanding of what the situation actually is.[/QUOTE]
It is making it worse but not in a way you're thinking of (at least, I assume you're on a different train of thought). It can be summed up with one simple question:
Why should I try to be nicer to them when they're not returning the favor in the slightest?
[QUOTE=Autumn;30903055]to which you could easily argue that it's their responsibility not to get themselves into such a position by ensuring they use adequate protection.
granted, rape cases where the woman is forced to keep the child and such are pretty fucked up, but to make a sweeping statement that "women aren't even allowed control over their bodies" is a bit far stretched
[editline]5th July 2011[/editline]
i'm confused, is Sanius male or female?
[editline]5th July 2011[/editline]
by birth, not by choice[/QUOTE]
Probably a confused male.
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