[QUOTE=Bobv2;30903296]Yeah. You don't just "fall pregnant," women have many contraceptives at their disposal, many more than men.[/QUOTE]
it's not really important though, no-one's gonna choose abortions over contraceptives
[QUOTE=Bobv2;30903296]Yeah. You don't just "fall pregnant," women have many contraceptives at their disposal, many more than men.
Not so say abortions shouldn't be legal.[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4AbHD_U5lc[/media]
EDIT:
Sorry that was a little off topic.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;30903318]Oh shit, we're starting to act like Sanius?
[/QUOTE]
when the fuck have I ever acted as childish as you people? you're all mocking me and calling me "it" because I'm a feminist and I'm actually trying to reply without losing my shit
[QUOTE=thisispain;30903315]i don't think sanius can guide your hand through knowing about the world dear, i'd try wikipedia[/QUOTE]
At least Wikipedia is pretty much unbiased and neutral.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;30903318]Oh shit, we're starting to act like Sanius?
Shit guys, better mature the fuck up![/QUOTE]
Too sober for that.
I don't get why "everything".
[QUOTE=thisispain;30903315]maybe because it's imposing "christian" values which are inherently misogynistic unto something private that women do?
i don't think sanius can guide your hand through knowing about the world dear, i'd try wikipedia[/QUOTE]
I'm sure Christianity agrees with abortion laws but I doubt they are its only pillars.
Good try though.
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[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;30903318]Oh shit, we're starting to act like Sanius?
Shit guys, better mature the fuck up![/QUOTE]
nice one, are you touring middle schools next year?
[QUOTE=Sanius;30903335]when the fuck have I ever acted as childish as you people? you're all mocking me and calling me "it" because I'm a feminist and I'm actually trying to reply without losing my shit[/QUOTE]
are you actually female though? just curious.
[QUOTE=Van-man;30903336]At least Wikipedia is pretty much unbiased and neutral.[/QUOTE]
And doesn't use the word 'misogyny' in any way in every other sentence.
[QUOTE=thisispain;30903315]maybe because it's imposing "christian" values which are inherently misogynistic unto something private that women do?
i don't think sanius can guide your hand through knowing about the world dear, i'd try wikipedia[/QUOTE]
While christian values may be the key driving force behind very harsh abortion laws like banning abortions for rape victims, which anyone with half a brain is against, I hardly think that telling someone that they can't have an abortion at 8 months, with a baby with a developed brain and nervous system, is either motivated by religious values or misogynistic
[QUOTE=Autumn;30903347]are you actually female though? just curious.[/QUOTE]
I'm biologically male but I don't associate with a gender
[QUOTE=Sanius;30903335]when the fuck have I ever acted as childish as you people? you're all mocking me and calling me "it" because I'm a feminist and I'm actually trying to reply without losing my shit[/QUOTE]
I never knew your gender so I was responding in a unisex way, and I never mocked you.
Didn't even note my post yet I wanted you to see.
[QUOTE=Sanius;30903363]I'm biologically male but I don't associate with a gender[/QUOTE]
I'm also male and support woman 100%. Your just being silly about it.
[QUOTE=0xDev;30903342]I'm sure Christianity agrees with abortion laws but I doubt they are the only pillars.
Good try though.[/QUOTE]
i'm sorry is there a more functional side to abortion laws?
[QUOTE=Sanius;30903363]I'm biologically male but I don't associate with a gender[/QUOTE]
And we haven't moved an inch from where we were in that regard.
Dammit Sanius!
[QUOTE=ThisGuy0;30903362]While christian values may be the key driving force behind very harsh abortion laws like banning abortions for rape victims, which anyone with half a brain is against, I hardly think that telling someone that they can't have an abortion at 8 months, with a baby with a developed brain and nervous system, is either motivated by religious values or misogynistic[/QUOTE]
well no said having an abortion at 8 months was a smart idea, it's actually a difficult and painful process.
sanius wasn't even arguing for those, you're just nitpicking.
[QUOTE=thisispain;30903396]well no said having an abortion at 8 months was a smart idea, it's actually a difficult and painful process.
sanius wasn't even arguing for those, you're just nitpicking.[/QUOTE]
Well he was arguing against all abortion law so I can only assume he was including such late terms abortions.
[QUOTE=Sanius;30903363]I'm biologically male but I don't associate with a gender[/QUOTE]
I'm kind of in the same boat.
But, you know, without all the frivolous accusations of misogyny.
[QUOTE=thisispain;30903374]i'm sorry is there a more functional side to abortion laws?[/QUOTE]
forcing a woman to deliver a baby that she cannot support would be pretty dysfunctional
[QUOTE=thisispain;30903396]
sanius wasn't even arguing for those, you're just nitpicking.[/QUOTE]
abortion laws are inherently misogynistic and there's no way around it, no matter how you dress it up. they assert that women should not have control over their bodies
[QUOTE=thisispain;30903374]i'm sorry is there a more functional side to abortion laws?[/QUOTE]
As much as I'd love to get into the age old topic of abortion, this isn't the thread to do it.
I was just calling your post out for over simplifying the reasons for abortion laws.
There's more to it. End story.
[QUOTE=Sanius;30903431]abortion laws are inherently misogynistic and there's no way around it, no matter how you dress it up. they assert that women should not have control over their body[/QUOTE]
So are you or are you not saying that telling someone that they can't have an abortion at 8 months, with a baby with a developed brain and nervous system is misogynistic?
[QUOTE=Autumn;30903430]forcing a woman to deliver a baby that she cannot support would be pretty dysfunctional[/QUOTE]
exactly so i don't get the point
[editline]4th July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=0xDev;30903439]As much as I'd love to get into the age old topic of abortion, this isn't the thread to do it.
I was just calling your post out for over simplifying the reasons for abortion laws.
There's more to it. End story.[/QUOTE]
yeah you can't just go END STORY what a bunch of bullshit.
if this isn't the thread to do it why even bring it up?
[QUOTE=Sanius;30903431]abortion laws are inherently misogynistic and there's no way around it, no matter how you dress it up. they assert that women should not have control over their bodies[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you only know of the abortion laws used in the bible belt.
[QUOTE=ThisGuy0;30903424]Well he was arguing against all abortion law so I can only assume he was including such late terms abortions.[/QUOTE]
he wasn't arguing against anything, you just like picking a fight
[QUOTE=thisispain;30903454]
yeah you can't just go END STORY what a bunch of bullshit.
if this isn't the thread to do it why even bring it up?[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=30903315#post30903315]You brought it up.[/url]
Plus you tried to snuff him with your next sentence which I found annoying.
what are we all even arguing about?
i think i've lost the plot
[QUOTE=Autumn;30903491]what are we all even arguing about?
i think i've lost the plot[/QUOTE]
Something about abortion laws being misogynistic or something....right?
Anyway, I think we can safely disagree with the title. Like how men can do certain things better than women, so can women do some things better than men.
[QUOTE=0xDev;30903483][url=http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=30903315#post30903315]You brought it up.[/url][/QUOTE]
he brought it up and you ran with it. don't blame him
[QUOTE=0xDev;30903483]You brought it up.[/QUOTE]
and you suggested that there's more to it than misguided "sanctity of life" dogma, which you have failed to even elaborate on.
not a nice try at all
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