• French PM suggests naked breasts represent France better than a headscarf
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question for boilrig: do you genuinely believe confirming something muslim extremists believe about the west will solve anything? confirming the whole the "west oppresses muslims" narratives that organizations like ISIS push to get more followers? by policing their beliefs you are some how making them go "oh i've seen the error of my ways" and not "why am i being punished for my personal beliefs"? do you want more violence on both sides? im genuinely curious
what does this even have anything to do with the subject at hand? sure its not french no shit but that doesn't mean you can just ban it?
but loyalty to ones country! You can be loyal to its values while respecting your culture, again it's not exclusive
[QUOTE=Maadz;50979347]what does this even have anything to do with the subject at hand? sure its not french no shit but that doesn't mean you can just ban it?[/QUOTE] its the right wing guys pandering to their vote bank in an effort to get re-elected. They don't have to say the right things, or even the important things, just whatever gets them more votes from their target audience/sways more people to that audience. Also all those recent terror attacks are making people afraid, but all its leading to is doubling down on the same stupidity that painted France as a target in the first place.
[QUOTE=Conscript;50979063]You don't have a leg to stand on. You're not being freedom loving, liberalism is founded on the oppression of the clergy. [Img]https://new2.fjcdn.com/comments/Iran+was+a+liberate+muslim+country+before+1979+and+look+_b0a8302a49d813eb2a80ae9d9694290a.jpg[/img] Islam is reactionary and excesses of its culture have no place in the original birthplaces of the Enlightenment. The excesses of multiculturalism increasingly means compromising on fundamental liberal values for fear of being called racist, but only because the Islamic world is simultaneously non-white and never received liberal enlightenment or modernity well. It only barely fostered nationalism and secularism, and that's being reversed by often the same sunni muslims we are importing. Arab nationalism looks to be like a 20th century phenomenon while gulf monarchies spread their influence and states like Libya, Iraq, and Syria crumble from modern european style nation-states into sectarianism and Islamic conservatism. Also Turkey speaks for itself.[/QUOTE] Every time I see you in these threads, you make the exact same argument that has been countlessly debunked The Islamic revolution was a political move for an elite group to take power, that government is sufficiently hated now as iran becomes more and more secular today. Please, go learn your histpry, read biographies
[QUOTE=Boilrig;50978901]Liveleak doesn't have many videos of Christians chopping heads off disbelievers.[/QUOTE] Liveleak is also a shitrag site that's essentially been co-opted by /pol/ to post videos that get taken down from youtube lmao. when your source is visited almost exclusively by homophobes, racists, sexists and general assholes it's probably not a fair and unbiased source on matters.
yeah it sure does, cus your country is ruled by a tit
[QUOTE=Conscript;50979063] [Img]https://new2.fjcdn.com/comments/Iran+was+a+liberate+muslim+country+before+1979+and+look+_b0a8302a49d813eb2a80ae9d9694290a.jpg[/img] [/QUOTE] Jesus fucking christ, I am so goddamn sick of seeing these stupid fucking pictures everytime there's a news thread about Islam. Why don't you read up about what Iran was actually like before the revolution instead of relying on cherrypicked photos of upper class people in Tehran? About the shah's rampant abuse of power, targeted killings and imprisonment of political opponents, forced secularization upon a population that didn't want it, all while he personally enriched itself? Fun fact: did you know that female literacy rates are actually higher in the Islamic Republic than they were before the revolution? The Islamic Republic isn't any better, but don't use history as an argument when you're clearly ignorant of it.
[QUOTE=Conscript;50979063]The excesses of multiculturalism increasingly means compromising on fundamental liberal values for fear of being called racist, but only because the Islamic world is simultaneously non-white and never received liberal enlightenment or modernity well. It only barely fostered nationalism and secularism, and that's being reversed by often the same sunni muslims we are importing. Arab nationalism looks to be like a 20th century phenomenon while gulf monarchies spread their influence and states like Libya, Iraq, and Syria crumble from modern european style nation-states into sectarianism and Islamic conservatism. Also Turkey speaks for itself.[/QUOTE] I don't know how to say this politely, so I'm going to go ahead and call it like I see it. You're fucking delusional. Show me where western nations have been forced to compromise on "fundamental liberal values" because of immigrants from Islamic-majority countries. I want specific examples, not nebulous allegations.
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