BLM Demonstrators Shut Down Minneapolis Interstate
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Reguardless where you stand on the issue, Jamar Clark's sister drove up to the group protesting as of recent outside 4th precinct and called them all idiots saying in a nutshell that badgering the police wont get them anywhere. [url]http://www.kare11.com/story/news/2015/11/18/police-storm-4th-precinct-remove-protesters/76005158/hat[/url]
Now for the sake of adding more context to the situation that caused the recent protests I'll talk a bit about where it happened. The North side is what south side Chicago is to Minneapolis, home to a predominantly poor and African American population. It has the highest rate of crime in the twin cities, with the most violent crime in the twin cities. Speaking from personal experience (I lived there for two years) gun shots were a common occurrence at night, and I had two drivebys happen right in front of my house. The community there is tight knit, so much so that there's pretty much an unwritten omerta when it comes to talking to cops.
With all that said I remember once there was a Domestic dispute on my block that brought in the cops. Long story short one of the billigerants started fighting with the cop and was promptly arrested. A majority of the onlookers started crying foul and said the cop beat him up and arrested him for no reason and so on an so fourth.
For the community they see it as outsiders affecting what is supposed to be an inside the community issue.
While I'm not saying that I'm calling the death of Jamar Clark a non-police violence issue, based on personal experience I'm taking the whole thing with a grain of salt. Minneapolis PD is notorious for being full of pile of shit cops, and they've done plenty of shady shit and gotten away with it.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;49143378]Can you cite these? That DOES sound absurd wtf?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/03/ferguson-as-a-criminal-conspiracy-against-its-black-residents-michael-brown-department-of-justice-report/386887/[/url] Here's a read on it
[url]http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf[/url] here's the report itself
Well... my state's getting a lot of attention recently. What the hell?
I wonder if I can do anything to help stop idiots from making liberal causes look bad.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;49143326]What deaths due to the blockade? Show me one. There [i]are none[/i].[/QUOTE]
"I don't see the problem officer. Sure, I shot at this random person on the street but I didn't end up hitting him. I don't see how what I'm doing can be considered wrong."
Besides, you're backpedaling again. Your original argument was that if the protesters weren't the root cause of people's deaths, they aren't responsible for it. Funny how you don't seem to want to admit that.
[QUOTE=sgman91;49143707]Have you read the report? It doesn't really show any of that. All it does is show that black people got in trouble more and assumes racism as the cause. It doesn't even try to address the other issues they found like black people being way more likely to resist arrest or be aggressive towards the officer.
There's no attempt at all to actually show causation.[/QUOTE]
LMFAO
The DOJ specifically and directly cites racial exploitation from the police and courts as the cause for the skewed arrest and citation statistics. Over and over and over and over again. You can twist news articles about protests and specific arrests to fit your narrative all you want, but don't go pretending that the investigatory findings of the entire Department of Justice themselves are a product of liberal media bias. That's not just ignorant, it's fucking belligerent. Like, the fourth passage of the official report is entitled: [B]FERGUSON LAW ENFORCEMENT PRACTICES VIOLATE THE LAW AND UNDERMINE COMMUNITY TRUST, ESPECIALLY AMONG AFRICAN AMERICANS.[/B]
Subsections are given such titles as:
[I]FPD ENGAGES IN A PATTERN OF UNCONSTITUTIONAL STOPS AND ARRESTS IN VIOLATION OF THE FOURTH AMENDMENT[/I]
[I]FPD ENGAGES IN A PATTERN OF FIRST AMENDMENT VIOLATIONS[/I]
[I]FPD ENGAGES IN A PATTERN OF EXCESSIVE FORCE IN VIOLATION OF THE FOURTH AMENDMENT[/I]
[I]FERGUSON'S LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS IMPOSE A DISPARATE IMPACT ON AFRICAN AMERICANS THAT VIOLATES FEDERAL LAW[/I]
[I]FERGUSON'S LAW ENFORCEMENT PRACTICES ARE MOTIVATED IN PART BY DISCRIMINATORY INTENT IN VIOLATION OF THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT, AND OTHER FEDERAL LAWS[/I]
[I]FERGUSON'S UNLAWFUL POLICE AND COURT PRACTICES HAVE LED TO DISTRUST AND RESENTMENT AMONG MANY IN FERGUSON[/I]
[I]FPD'S FAILURE TO RESPOND TO COMPLAINTS OF OFFICER MISCONDUCT FURTHER ERODES COMMUNITY TRUST[/I]
Each of those subsections then gives detailed and thorough evidence proving the claims made in the titles beyond all shadow of a doubt. So don't sit there and pretend like the report is just further evidence that [I]black people[/I] were the problem, and not the police department and court system. If you can see this evidence, and still dismiss the events in Ferguson, and indeed across the country, as being just a bunch of uppity black people making up problems to play the race card about, then you are not a free thinking skeptic who is too clever to be tricked by the media, you are everything that is wrong with race relations in this country.
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