[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;15949208]hurf durf protesting capitalism while charging for admission and the price of a dvd (cause producing a movie and distributing it worldwide is absolutely free just pay shipping and handling!) what a big fat (fat) hypocrite!!![/QUOTE]
So he's too worried about losing money and going into a little bit of debt, more worried about that money than everyone else?
Sounds pretty capitalist. All he cares about is keeping the status quo.
[QUOTE=drive_the_hive;15949189]Well I hope I do. And I tell you what I'm seeing. I see a System which is relentlessly knocking itself over only to be lifted up again. You try to imply that this is how Capitalism should actually work and you see nothing wrong with it?
You don't feel the recession hard enough. I don't feel it aswell. But I can tell that this is not how a system should work. At all.
Also what's about all this hostility. Jesus, we're just having a debate.[/QUOTE]
Economic cycles occur pretty much regardless of the system in place, as history has shown.
[QUOTE=drive_the_hive;15949212]None.[/QUOTE]
Then do explain how the Glock firearm is currently one of the best selling, not to mention arguably the highest-quality and most reliable, arms companies in the world.
Hurr durr durr, Capitalism are bad.
Maybe this fat turd should look at the system that's allowed him to succeed so much.
[QUOTE=Lankist;15949209]Explain the recession.
You say "I can tell that this is not how a system should work. At all."
But you don't even understand how it works to begin with. Somebody tells you "WE'RE IN A RECESSION SHIT SUX!" and you take that as justification to try to revolutionize the fucking world?[/QUOTE]
Do I really have to explain how it all came to happen? The Cycle? The economic bubble? The burst? The collapse? The debt? And why do I have to explain everything? Let's turn that around. Explain to me why capitalism works and try to convince me that recent times show that it's not just failing again like it has done times and times before.
Again why the hostility? It just strengthening my view on Americans which is If you argue against something they stand for, they will hate you for it.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;15949120]Okay. I accidentally put an [I]r[/I] at the end of [I]you[/I]. My bad. And there's nothing wrong with offense. Believe it or not, that's actually how it's spelled.
As for my name, I've had it for 8 years as my screen name. Give me a break.[/QUOTE]
i just realized i'm talking to a kid who willingly named himself 'boba fett' and is a staunch conservative
seriously though you should probably take the advice of every other person who has replied to you and stop posting
[QUOTE=James*;15949230]Economic cycles occur pretty much regardless of the system in place, as history has shown.[/QUOTE]
So we need a system that is not affected by an economic cycle like a dandelion by the wind.
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[QUOTE=Lankist;15949240]Then do explain how the Glock firearm is currently one of the best selling, not to mention arguably the highest-quality and most reliable, arms companies in the world.[/QUOTE]
Well maybe because they "not to mention arguably the highest-quality and most reliable, arms ".
And?
Yo drive_the_hive, capitalism works just chill. It has it's ups and downs, but all-in-all it's pretty good as long as you're not laissez-faire capitalist. Add a bit of socialism and it's cool.
[QUOTE=drive_the_hive;15949309]Do I really have to explain how it all came to happen? The economic bubble? The burst? The collapse? The debt? And why do I have to explain everything? Let's turn that around. Explain to me why capitalism works and try to convince me that recent times show that it's not just failing again like it has done times and times before.
Again why the hostility? It just strengthening my view on Americans which is If you argue against something they stand for, they will hate you for it.[/QUOTE]
I'd like you to stop using buzzwords you heard on MSNBC and explain what this recession is, what it's doing and how it's going to be solved.
Capitalism is a system at which individuals and conglomerates can exchange goods and services for a price determined by the seller. What maintains the fairness of this price is competition, and the consumer's ability to favor the cheaper seller. The same applies to quality of product. The idea behind capitalism is a self regulatory economic policy in which instead of the established government regulating profit and price, that power belongs to the consumer. The consumer always has a demand for higher quality and lower prices, and where there is a demand there is, or will soon be, a product. There is profit to be made in satisfying the masses.
Conversely, I suppose you would trust in a government's competence to regulate this for us. Right. Governments can't even fucking regulate themselves, let alone something as complex and unpredictable as a global economy.
[QUOTE=drive_the_hive;15949309]Do I really have to explain how it all came to happen? The Cycle? The economic bubble? The burst? The collapse? The debt? And why do I have to explain everything? Let's turn that around. Explain to me why capitalism works and try to convince me that recent times show that it's not just failing again like it has done times and times before.
Again why the hostility? It just strengthening my view on Americans which is If you argue against something they stand for, they will hate you for it.[/QUOTE]
Capatilism works because it is efficient. It allows supply and demand to meet at a natural equilibrium.
[QUOTE=Lankist;15948723]No, see, that was a legitimate point. That you ignored.
Capitalism and Socialism are economic policies. They have extremely minimal involvement in law, military and war. Furthermore, to say capitalism encourages war? Please. It's cheaper to negotiate than it is to fight.[/QUOTE]
Military contracts and such.
Private military companies benefit immensely from wars, and hold various government ties.
Which ultimately influences the major outcome of a conflict and the decisions involved.
[QUOTE=Chippay;15949319]i just realized i'm talking to a kid who willingly named himself 'boba fett' and is a staunch conservative
seriously though you should probably take the advice of every other person who has replied to you and stop posting[/QUOTE]
Can you read? I said I've used this name for 8 years. And is there anything wrong with liking Science Fiction?
[QUOTE=drive_the_hive;15949339]So we need a system that is not affected by an economic cycle like a dandelion by the wind.[/quote]
That's like saying we need a climate that isn't affected by the sun.
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Well maybe because they "not to mention arguably the highest-quality and most reliable, arms ".
And?[/QUOTE]
You said arms manufacturers profit on waging wars for the sale of their firearms, implying their profit is dependent on that. Glock clearly hasn't been the center of any wars, and yet they are both extremely successful and extremely profitable.
Oh my god, I fucking hate Micheal Moore.
also, Communism > Democracy
[QUOTE=Melkor;15949403]Military contracts and such.
Private military companies benefit immensely from wars, and hold various government ties.
Which ultimately influences the major outcome of a conflict and the decisions involved.[/QUOTE]
Yes because we declare war to make profit for Haliburton.
The Iraq war has been SO profitable.
[QUOTE=Lankist;15949429]Yes because we declare war to make profit for Haliburton.
The Iraq war has been SO profitable.[/QUOTE]
I never said that it was the sole cause.
And yes it was profitable for those involved. Many got richer because of it.
[QUOTE=Melkor;15949450]I never said that it was the sole cause.
And yes it was profitable for those involved. Many got richer because of it.[/QUOTE]
I'd like to see the numbers.
And if it isn't the sole cause, it's not a fucking problem. That's like being pissed at Oreo for profiting on fatties. That's fucking stupid. If it's going to happen regardless, you can't blame someone for taking advantage.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;15949411]Can you read? I said I've used this name for 8 years. And is there anything wrong with liking Science Fiction?[/QUOTE]
you're missing the point
this must be political science class all over again for you
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[QUOTE=Lankist;15949429]
The Iraq war has been SO profitable.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Blackwater-Powerful-Mercenary-Revised-Updated/dp/156858394X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247182049&sr=8-1[/url]
[QUOTE=Chippay;15949463]you're missing the point
this must be political science class all over again for you[/QUOTE]
Perhaps I would get the point if you actually had one.
[QUOTE=Chippay;15949463]you're missing the point
this must be political science class all over again for you
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[url]http://www.amazon.com/Blackwater-Powerful-Mercenary-Revised-Updated/dp/156858394X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247182049&sr=8-1[/url][/QUOTE]
Not going to buy some fucking conspiracy book.
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Also Blackwater is NOT the most powerful PMC.
[QUOTE=drive_the_hive;15949339]So we need a system that is not affected by an economic cycle like a dandelion by the wind.[/QUOTE]
Capatilism with some limited regulation. It's pretty impossible to avoid economic fluctuations altogether because of exogenous shocks and such, but government intervention when needed can help speed up recovery.
[QUOTE=Lankist;15949499]Not going to buy some fucking conspiracy book.
[/QUOTE]
are you retarded or something?
[QUOTE=Chippay;15949517]are you retarded or something?[/QUOTE]
Are you capable of presenting an argument that doesn't require I buy some fuck's book you found on Amazon?
Lankist you have an interesting aray of views. Half of the time I like you, half of the time I hate you. Be more clean cut please.
[QUOTE=Aman;15949536]Lankist you have an interesting aray of views. Half of the time I like you, half of the time I hate you. Be more clean cut please.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry I don't fall into what your political preconceptions dictate I should be.
Maybe it's time to redefine those preconceptions.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;15949490]Perhaps I would get the point if you actually had one.[/QUOTE]
seriously though stop posting
[QUOTE=Lankist;15949549]I'm sorry I don't fall into what your political preconceptions dictate I should be.
Maybe it's time to redefine those preconceptions.[/QUOTE]
no thnnnxxxxx kk
lankist several minutes ago:
[QUOTE=Lankist;15949461]I'd like to see the numbers.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lankist;15949429]Yes because we declare war to make profit for Haliburton.
The Iraq war has been SO profitable.[/QUOTE]
lankist now: [QUOTE=Lankist;15949532]Are you capable of presenting an argument that doesn't require I buy some fuck's book you found on Amazon?[/QUOTE]
lankist in the future: probably regretting these posts
[QUOTE=Chippay;15949568]lankist several minutes ago:
lankist now:
lankist in the future: probably regretting these posts[/QUOTE]
If the numbers that book cites are not publicly available, they aren't trustworthy to begin with.
Find the numbers it cites and then post them.
Chippay i dont get it
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