US man to be executed by firing squad - Polidicks

OK, OK, I admit defeat. But I like the idea of not wasting money on the expensive chemicals.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;21534247]So you care more about money then the guilt of the person you are sending to death?[/QUOTE] Death Penalty is only issued if the person committed a heinous crime. Or if it was a conspiracy (like you planned out who you would kill, how) and shit. Once you get smeared with that, it's pretty damn difficult to clean your record, and there is no reason to ask for an appeal more than twice. Unless you want to be a dick and just keep going until you run out of time (which is never). And yes. I would much rather see an improvement in education than pay to keep Joe alive in jail even though he has been found guilty a dozen times in the last ten years. You just can't change that "guilty" to "not guilty" in these cases. And if you were innocent, you must have done something to get in that position in the first place. So it's still partly your fault. [editline]07:01PM[/editline] [QUOTE=lulzbocks;21534352]OK, OK, I admit defeat. But I like the idea of not wasting money on the expensive chemicals.[/QUOTE] Lethal injection costs $95 USD.

[QUOTE=lulzbocks;21534352]OK, OK, I admit defeat. But I like the idea of not wasting money on the expensive chemicals.[/QUOTE] So let's just take the criminals out into the front yard of the courthouse and shoot them then. No appeal, as soon as the verdict comes out the bailiff carries the guy out and shoots him.

[QUOTE=Thomas849;21534357]Lethal injection costs $95 USD.[/QUOTE] ??? Then why does anyone support a firing squad? I though it was better! [editline]07:49AM[/editline] [QUOTE=yawmwen;21534375]So let's just take the criminals out into the front yard of the courthouse and shoot them then. No appeal, as soon as the verdict comes out the bailiff carries the guy out and shoots him.[/QUOTE] Did you read what I wrote? I said that that's a BAD idea now. I just thought that the poison was expensive, but that has now been debunked as well, so I guess lethal injection is best.

[QUOTE=Thomas849;21534357]Death Penalty is only issued if the person committed a heinous crime. Or if it was a conspiracy (like you planned out who you would kill, how) and shit. Once you get smeared with that, it's pretty damn difficult to clean your record, and there is no reason to ask for an appeal more than twice. Unless you want to be a dick and just keep going until you run out of time (which is never).[/quote] What if he is innocent of the crime? [quote]And yes. I would much rather see an improvement in education than pay to keep Joe alive in jail even though he has been found guilty a dozen times in the last ten years.[/quote] So let Joe free then. If you don't want to pay for him being in jail then let him free. It isn't our job to decide who lives and who dies, and for fuck's sake, it isn't the government's either. [quote] You just can't change that "guilty" to "not guilty" in these cases. [/quote] What about all the people who ran out of appeals, got executed, then later were found out to be innocent due to new technologies? [quote]And if you were innocent, you must have done something to get in that position in the first place. So it's still partly your fault. [/QUOTE] Yes, because there is no such thing as being a victim to circumstance. If I break up with a girl and she gets murdered shortly after I should get the chair simply because I got into a position where it looks like I did it?

[QUOTE=lulzbocks;21534386]??? Then why does anyone support a firing squad? I though it was better![/QUOTE] In my opinion firing squad is better. It can be over before you even hit the ground, and for literally less than $3.00. But people seem to think that it's cruel and unusual which I like to say back, "these people have already done something that has caused a lot of damage. There's nothing wrong with a few seconds of suffering" But that's just me. Personally, I would like to go out by firing squad if I ever was sentenced to death. I'd make it public too. My executioner(s) would pack .500 S&W's and when my head explodes, everyone gets to see. I don't want to come off as sick or anything, I'd just want to cause one last bit of harm before I died.

[QUOTE=Thomas849;21534357]Death Penalty is only issued if the person committed a heinous crime. Or if it was a conspiracy (like you planned out who you would kill, how) and shit.[/quote] Actually, murder and treason, at least in the US. [QUOTE=Thomas849;21534357]You just can't change that "guilty" to "not guilty" in these cases.[/quote] Actually, many people on death row have been exonerated. [QUOTE=Thomas849;21534357]And if you were innocent, you must have done something to get in that position in the first place. So it's still partly your fault. [/quote] Like being black in the wrong place at the wrong time?

[QUOTE]What if he is innocent of the crime? [/QUOTE] He would be tried, found guilty/not guilty, sentenced, eligible for up to 5 appeals spread through 2-3 years allowing evidence to be compiled and a case to be built. [QUOTE]So let Joe free then. If you don't want to pay for him being in jail then let him free. It isn't our job to decide who lives and who dies, and for fuck's sake, it isn't the government's either.[/QUOTE] Let Joe, a suspected murderer free into society where he may/may not kill again. And it isn't. But when a member of society blows up a hospital or pre-meditates the murder of a dozen religious leaders or something, then we should be able to contain him and eliminate him because he is mentally ill and shouldn't be given the smallest chance to escape and cause even more damage. [QUOTE]What about all the people who ran out of appeals, got executed, then later were found out to be innocent due to new technologies? [/QUOTE] That was then. At this point, there's not much else we can develop that can prove a man innocent or guilty. Unless we make cameras that tape every corner of the world at any given time, than.. yeah. [QUOTE]Yes, because there is no such thing as being a victim to circumstance. If I break up with a girl and she gets murdered shortly after I should get the chair simply because I got into a position where it looks like I did it?[/QUOTE] You should have an excuse to clear your name. If you really didn't do it, then you should be able to prove it. Of course there is the chance that you can't, in which case you can go for one of your appeals and tackle that issue with more evidence. [editline]07:19PM[/editline] [QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21534465]Actually, many people on death row have been exonerated.[/QUOTE] After 10 years (the average amount of time spent on death row in the US) or more? There is also a chance that evidence as deteriorated to a point where it becomes useless and overcome. [editline]07:21PM[/editline] [QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21534465]Actually, murder and treason, at least in the US.[/QUOTE] Premeditated murder, arson, use of explosives, treason, ect.

[QUOTE=Thomas849;21534632] Let Joe, a suspected murderer free into society where he may/may not kill again. And it isn't. But when a member of society blows up a hospital or pre-meditates the murder of a dozen religious leaders or something, then we should be able to contain him and eliminate him because he is mentally ill and shouldn't be given the smallest chance to escape and cause even more damage.[/quote] Eliminate him? He's a fucking human being whether you want to believe it or not. We can't just "eliminate" the unwanted people from the world. The most we can do is keep those who harm others in their own little space to live their own lives. [quote]That was then. At this point, there's not much else we can develop that can prove a man innocent or guilty. Unless we make cameras that tape every corner of the world at any given time, than.. yeah. [/quote] Each year new technologies come out that allow law enforcement to find out if someone is guilty of a crime. DNA isn't the only thing. [quote]You should have an excuse to clear your name. If you really didn't do it, then you should be able to prove it. Of course there is the chance that you can't, in which case you can go for one of your appeals and tackle that issue with more evidence.[/QUOTE] One: Sorry, I was alone all day in my apartment. Since I have no roommate I have no one who can testify that I was really here, and I didn't go to the store so there is no receipt. I must be guilty, right? Two: What. The. Fuck. We don't fucking prove we are innocent, the system has to prove we are guilty. It's innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. I don't have to fucking prove shit to anyone, they have to prove that I did something.

I'd rather be shot than strapped down and injected with chemicals.

[QUOTE=Thomas849;21534632] Premeditated murder, arson, use of explosives, treason, ect.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure 1st degree murder, treason, and terrorism are the only acts you can execute someone for. Arson itself isn't big enough to get you executed unless someone dies because of it.

.30-06 is a good round to die from, really powerful round designed to kill in as little hits as possible, yet still light enough to make an open casket funeral possible. I personally wouldn't ask for anything more.

[QUOTE=Billiam;21533709]I would ask for a howitzer.[/QUOTE] Hah! I would apply for a tactical nuclear weapon test subject. Going out with a blast, leaving only a skeleton/or dust in the orbit

[QUOTE=yawmwen;21534778]I'm pretty sure 1st degree murder, treason, and terrorism are the only acts you can execute someone for. Arson itself isn't big enough to get you executed unless someone dies because of it.[/QUOTE] I mean when someone dies in the case of arson. Use of explosives is considered terrorism. But these are pretty harsh offenses here. You can't be in the gray here. If you get framed for killing your ex-girlfriend, you wouldn't get the chair. But if she was blown up by a group of conspirators, you can't really be seen as guilty (assuming you had nothing to do with it) because there would be evidence at the scene which couldn't be connected with you. Unless you bought a length of pipe for some plumbing issue or something, in which case you can show the court your repairs and be let off.

[QUOTE=Thomas849;21534870]I mean when someone dies in the case of arson. Use of explosives is considered terrorism. But these are pretty harsh offenses here. You can't be in the gray here. If you get framed for killing your ex-girlfriend, you wouldn't get the chair. But if she was blown up by a group of conspirators, you can't really be seen as guilty (assuming you had nothing to do with it) because there would be evidence at the scene which couldn't be connected with you. Unless you bought a length of pipe for some plumbing issue or something, in which case you can show the court your repairs and be let off.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying it happens often. But if someone is innocent and gets found guilty you can't say it is the person's fault. It's the fault of "fate" or "luck" or whatever you want to call it. It is never the fault of the innocent person.

If I had the option I'd pick firing squad over lethal injection.

[QUOTE=Sharq;21533192]What if the fellas in the firing squad were really inaccurate? :v:[/QUOTE] Then you dont get shot :v:

[QUOTE=yawmwen;21534284]You're one of the reasons that capital punishment is wrong in a civilised country.[/QUOTE] We are civilized. We are keeping our civilization by killing those without it. A mass murderer (not referring to this case) does not deserve to live. What if your entire family was murdered, and he was caught. You would want the death penalty too. Also, we are killing them more humanely than they killed their victims. Lets say Killer A murders victim B by chopping B's head off. We are putting them to sleep, then injecting them with poison. No pain. Just going to sleep and not waking up.

[QUOTE=Uberman77883;21535019]We are civilized. We are keeping our civilization by killing those without it. A mass murderer (not referring to this case) does not deserve to live. What if your entire family was murdered, and he was caught. You would want the death penalty too.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't want the death penalty. I would want to kill him myself. However, it is not the point of society to seek vengeance. A society should be above the bloodlust of individual victims, not a slave to it.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;21533931]You can't choose to die under a guillotine, or hanged from a gallows... they usually say "Ok mr. Doe, we find you guity of manslaughter and your penalty is death by lethal injection" IIRC, executions by electric chair have been banned, so all they have right now is lethal injection (somebody correct me where I'm wrong)[/QUOTE] Letting people choosing their method of execution is pretty standard. Apart from the badass method of choice, this isn't any different from ordering strawberry ice cream over chocolate.

If it gets to the point where someone could get the death penalty they should just give him life. Then when hes in his cell hand him a gun with 1 round and let him decide (also know he would be locked down 24 hours a day)

[QUOTE=Mudbone;21535112]If it gets to the point where someone could get the death penalty they should just give him life. Then when hes in his cell hand him a gun with 1 round and let him decide (also know he would be locked down 24 hours a day)[/QUOTE] Except make the gun a .22, so if he chooses to end it, it'll take a while.

[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21535139]Except make the gun a .22, so if he chooses to end it, it'll take a while.[/QUOTE] My god you guys are cruel.

The retarded beauracratic system ALWAYS has to give you shit if you wanna do ANYTHING slightly out of the ordinary, no matter how harmless it may be. Shit, they should fuck the system and just take him out into the backyard tonight and shoot em'.

I would pick getting shot. I don't like how the injection works.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;21535162]My god you guys are cruel.[/QUOTE] I would personalty rather kill myself then be on lock down the rest of my life. Unless their was any chance of escape.

[QUOTE=angelangel;21533951]I'd rather be hanged.[/QUOTE] Me, firing squad but all with full-automatic weapons, and in the middle of the street.

[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21535139]Except make the gun a .22, so if he chooses to end it, it'll take a while.[/QUOTE] .22's are actually the rounds of choice for assassin's going for headshots, since the round has enough energy to enter the skull, but not enough to exit, so it'll just ricochet in the brain cavity until it runs out of energy.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;21535162]My god you guys are cruel.[/QUOTE] I am a motherfucker.

I'd rather be shot by a mixture of lethal injection darts, bullets, electric chairs, cannon balls, while being hanged on the arm of a burning crucifix and left to rot in a prison cell for 100 years.