[QUOTE=reedbo;45050190]"Look at how wrong I am!"[/QUOTE]
Yes, obviously everything I said I knew was wrong, that must be why I said it
[QUOTE=reedbo;45050190]"Look at how wrong I am!"
It's a shame that the companies that install and configure these machines don't have better practices. I guarantee that this problem isn't limited to ATMs[/QUOTE]
yeah, this sorta problem is pretty widespread. i once saw a (small-ish) safe, with money inside it, whose password was '1234'.
let me guess, did it run windows XP?
[QUOTE=J!NX;45050465]let me guess, did it run windows XP?[/QUOTE]
Most likely, one of the reasons they get "hacked" so easily
[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;45050078]"Always" in your lifetime. Leaving the thread in 3...2...1[/QUOTE]
So are brute force programs not considered hacking?
[QUOTE][B]using one of the factory default passwords that had apparently never been changed.[/B][/QUOTE]
Was it "Guest"?
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;45050548]So are brute force programs not considered hacking?[/QUOTE]
I already said they are, this guy used a factory default password, not brute force
Tbh I feel like people in this thread who don't think it's hacking are just jealous over the fact these kids did hacking at 14 and they never did.
[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;45050028]Not about who did it, it's how you do it. Hacking used to refer to reverse engineering things, brute forcing, using exploits. Now it's just guessing passwords[/QUOTE]
Hacking used to mean "programmer" so IDK what y'all are on about.
[QUOTE=supersoldier58;45050645]Tbh I feel like people in this thread who don't think it's hacking are just jealous over the fact these kids did hacking at 14 and they never did.[/QUOTE]
Sounds logical, I mean, jesus why didn't I think of this?
[editline]9th June 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;45050678]Hacking used to mean "programmer" so IDK what y'all are on about.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and these guys aren't programmers. They looked up a manual, and used a factory password
[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;45050512]Most likely, one of the reasons they get "hacked" so easily[/QUOTE]
[t]http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2011/06/hacker-02.jpg[/t]
I've got a sudden urge to go to random ATMs and try to access their service menu now - just to see if it works or not.
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;45049752]Didn't they do this in Terminator 2?[/QUOTE]
dude swear to god I thought the same fucking thing.
Imagined a baby john connor and his mullet-headed friend getting easy money.
Bet you it was "admin"
[QUOTE=The Calzone;45049709]I didn't know hacking was successfully guessing passwords.[/QUOTE]
"Alright Billy, ready?"
"Yeah, let's do it!"
"Okay. 'A-A-A-A-A-A'... No, okay... 'A-A-A-A-A-C'... No that's not it either."
"Dude, you skipped 'B'!"
"Dammit Billy, you're supposed to be writing these down!"
Wow.. I see "hacked" and I'm like- the hell? Are these some sort of prodigies? But they guessed a password..
It seems messing with anything electronic is "hacking" to News Agencies, just like they call all weapons "assault rifles" or w/e..
[quote]The teens even changed the machine’s greeting from "Welcome to the BMO ATM" to "Go away. This ATM has been hacked."[/quote]
I know what I would've done.
[video=youtube;65GQg06SX90]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65GQg06SX90[/video]
ATMs actually have universal keys that open pretty much every unit from a specific manufacturer.
You can access the hardware pretty easily too, and they're not secured like at all for some reason.
ATMs are inherently unsafe, it's funny. The only thing thats truly safe is the money stored inside but if you get access to the computer all thats rendered mute.
[QUOTE=J!NX;45050465]let me guess, did it run windows XP?[/QUOTE]
I don't know if its changed but ATMs used to (in the last 5 years?) run Win 95 or NT4. Don't need none of that modern Win XP shit.
[QUOTE=binkow;45052473]Wow.. I see "hacked" and I'm like- the hell? Are these some sort of prodigies? But they guessed a password..
It seems messing with anything electronic is "hacking" to News Agencies, just like they call all weapons "assault rifles" or w/e..[/QUOTE]
hack1
hak/
verb
gerund or present participle: hacking
1.
cut with rough or heavy blows.
"hack off the dead branches"
synonyms: cut, chop, hew, lop, saw; More
2.
[b]use a computer to gain unauthorized access to data in a system.
"they hacked into a bank's computer"
gain unauthorized access to (data in a computer).
"hacking private information from computers"[/b]
3.
informal
manage; cope.
"lots of people leave because they can't hack it"
synonyms: cope, manage, get on/by, carry on, come through, muddle along/through;
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;45049752]Didn't they do this in Terminator 2?[/QUOTE]
They brute forced it with an Atari
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;45049761]98% of "hacking" is social engineering. Noone spends years brute-forcing passwords.[/QUOTE]
Mostly poor configuration and poor programming/rule enforcement. An application like that should not allow for default passwords to be used in a production environment. Ever.
[QUOTE=Jsm;45050030]
No it didn't hacking has always been gaining unauthorised access to a system. It doesn't matter how its done. If I sneak into an office and access a system through an unsecured computer that system has technically been hacked.[/QUOTE]
From my dictionary:
Hacking; To modify a computer (or a computer program), usually with great knowledge and understanding
What it means by "modify" is kind of unclear, but I can only imagine it refers to electronical engineering and software engineering
With this said, arguing about semantics is kind of pointless seeing as it obviously has a broad variety of meanings
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;45057631]From my dictionary:
Hacking; To modify a computer (or a computer program), usually with great knowledge and understanding
What it means by "modify" is kind of unclear, but I can only imagine it refers to electronical engineering and software engineering
With this said, arguing about semantics is kind of pointless seeing as it obviously has a broad variety of meanings[/QUOTE]
The term cracking is prefered for unauthorized (malicious) use of computer systems etc.
[url]https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Hacker[/url]
[quote=GNU]
A hacker is someone who [url=http://stallman.org/articles/on-hacking.html]enjoys playful cleverness[/url]—not necessarily with computers. The programmers in the old MIT free software community of the 60s and 70s referred to themselves as hackers. Around 1980, journalists who discovered the hacker community mistakenly took the term to mean “security breaker.”
Please don't spread this mistake. People who break security are “crackers.”
[/quote]
[QUOTE=binkow;45052473]Wow.. I see "hacked" and I'm like- the hell? Are these some sort of prodigies? But they guessed a password..
It seems messing with anything electronic is "hacking" to News Agencies, just like they call all weapons "assault rifles" or w/e..[/QUOTE]
It's the first trick any hacker would've tried. As easy as it was, they pwned the ATM.
[QUOTE=Jsm;45053213]I don't know if its changed but ATMs used to (in the last 5 years?) run Win 95 or NT4. Don't need none of that modern Win XP shit.[/QUOTE]
I work for a bank. Our ATMs use Windows XP. Also, you can't access the admin console from the outside of the ATM. The ATM has to be opened by an actual key first before you can get to the GUI.
If I was there I would have set the greeting message to "Feed me a stray cat"
[QUOTE=Mr. Foster;45058977]I work for a bank. Our ATMs use Windows XP. Also, you can't access the admin console from the outside of the ATM. The ATM has to be opened by an actual key first before you can get to the GUI.[/QUOTE]
That seems much more sensible, I always wondered why an ATM had any sort of accessible admin mode without being physically unlocked.
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