• Around 50% of British mosques have been attacked since 9/11
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everyone in the uk needs to chill the fuck out and stop being so dumb
Sure is nice all these people saying the british (which includes muslims so the terminology is off) are more racist towards muslims than say parts of the balkans or parts of india. Have any of you ever actually encountered a racist attack? because 14% of the local population is south asian and I have seen maybe 4, 1 of which was a group of asians abusing a old man, the rest all involved the same white guy. Sure seems widespread:rolleyes: [QUOTE=Bobie;41241153][B]everyone[/B] in the uk needs to chill the fuck out and stop being so dumb[/QUOTE] Lead by example then.
[QUOTE=benwaddi;41241253]Sure is nice all these people saying the british (which includes muslims so the terminology is off) are more racist towards muslims than say parts of the balkans or parts of india. Have any of you ever actually encountered a racist attack? because 14% of the local population is south asian and I have seen maybe 4, 1 of which was a group of asians abusing a old man, the rest all involved the same white guy. Sure seems widespread:rolleyes: Lead by example then.[/QUOTE] your anecdotes =/= statistical analysis
[QUOTE=Bobie;41241348]your anecdotes =/= statistical analysis[/QUOTE] Thank you for the statistical analysis you (or anyone in the thread) provided....
[QUOTE=Coffee;41239047]No, it's just that there's a bunch of skinheads who dropped out of education at 16 and have nothing better to do with their dole money, so they just decided to blame all their problems on a group of people because they're stupid.[/QUOTE] This. 'Rent-a-Mobs' they're typically known as. Attacks like this are treated seriously, but they really are pathetic attempts.
[QUOTE=Emperorconor;41238930]Sending a letter promising to burn down your mosque/beat you up when you live in a country full of people likely to do that isn't exactly something to be ignored.[/QUOTE] Did it happen?
[QUOTE=BCell;41240877]By the way, does the large Britons also hate Buddhist, Hindus, Sikh, Atheist, protestants and Jewish people as well?[/QUOTE] Largely the asian cultures or anybody that's brown. Though the kind of idiots that attack Mosques think brown == Muslim instantly. No questions asked, if you're brown, you're Muslim!
[QUOTE=BCell;41240877]These people needs to get out of the country and meet new people. They are attack Muslims because they do not understand them. If they actually learn to understand Islam and the way of Muslims, they would never resort to violence on other people. [editline]30th June 2013[/editline] By the way, does the large Britons also hate Buddhist, Hindus, Sikh, Atheist, protestants and Jewish people as well?[/QUOTE] not really no because those have been there for a long time + they're no where near as visible targets as muslims
[QUOTE=benwaddi;41241505]Thank you for the statistical analysis you (or anyone in the thread) provided....[/QUOTE] see: the source of the thread you're posting in. seriously, step ur game up [editline]29th June 2013[/editline] closet racists aint so clever these days
[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/oct/22/ukcrime.race[/url] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-17996245[/url] Bonus to show its not all white vs non-whites: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Birmingham_riots[/url] Seems like an over representation the other way than people in this thread are painting it. Again I have not seen many attacks so I won't jump to say one side is worse than the other. Still no sources on a widespread hatred of muslims or other minorities by "the british" (Which I assume to mean whites) I should probably report you for calling me a racist with no evidence. Ill give you a chance to actually prove I am racist though so go ahead. Also the thread source dealt with attacks on one group and did not say who did each attack or if they were in areas where vandalization is a common occurrence.
[QUOTE=benwaddi;41241772][url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/oct/22/ukcrime.race[/url] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-17996245[/url] Bonus to show its not all white vs non-whites: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Birmingham_riots[/url] Seems like an over representation the other way than people in this thread are painting it. Again I have not seen many attacks so I won't jump to say one side is worse than the other. Still no sources on a widespread hatred of muslims or other minorities by "the british" (Which I assume to mean whites)[/QUOTE] first article is irrelevant: [quote]Mr Vaz, chairman of the Commons Home Affairs Select Committee and Labour MP for Leicester East, said the root causes of the abuse of young girls needed to be addressed but that investigations must not focus on the ethnic origin, religion or geographical location of those involved.[/quote] second article is from 2006 (7 years ago for all u maths lovers out there) and i really don't know what the relevance of the third article is. it's an isolated incident from 8 years ago that doesnt have anything to do with the subject matter involved in this thread.
[QUOTE=Bobie;41241809]first article is irrelevant: second article is from 2006 (7 years ago for all u maths lovers out there) and i really don't know what the relevance of the third article is. it's an isolated incident from 8 years ago that doesnt have anything to do with the subject matter involved in this thread.[/QUOTE] The thread dealt with incidents over the past 12 years so those articles fit the time frame. Of course the point went over your head, I was addressing the posters saying hatred of muslims was widespread in the UK. In fact the question asked if the hatred was more than any other country yet my examples of the Balkans and India went unaddressed. I never said the attacks were not racially motivated or that I support attacks of any kind, just that I had not witnessed many in an area with a high percentage of asians. So please tell me how I am a closet racist? or have you dropped that angle now? Edit: Lord you missed the point even more than I thought, the second article points out how politicians are ignoring the problems with the asian community pointed out by [B]asian community leaders[/B]
At least they don't get beheaded like Christians get beheaded in Islamist countries.
[QUOTE=Bichak;41241965]At least they don't get beheaded like Christians get beheaded in Islamist countries.[/QUOTE] They are more individual groups that are condemned by the islamic countries governments. Please don't think it is a widespread or widely supported issue by muslims.
[QUOTE=benwaddi;41241940]The thread dealt with incidents over the past 12 years so those articles fit the time frame. Of course the point went over your head, I was addressing the posters saying hatred of muslims was widespread in the UK. In fact the question asked if the hatred was more than any other country yet my examples of the Balkans and India went unaddressed. I never said the attacks were not racially motivated or that I support attacks of any kind, just that I had not witnessed many in an area with a high percentage of asians. So please tell me how I am a closet racist? or have you dropped that angle now?[/QUOTE] the statistic mentioned in the original article is persistent to this year, yours is not.
[QUOTE=benwaddi;41242021]They are more individual groups that are condemned by the islamic countries governments. Please don't think it is a widespread or widely supported issue by muslims.[/QUOTE] k [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youcef_Nadarkhani[/url]
[QUOTE=Bichak;41242091]k [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youcef_Nadarkhani[/url][/QUOTE] you pretty much just proved his point lol
[QUOTE=Bobie;41242022]the statistic mentioned in the original article is persistent to this year, yours is not.[/QUOTE] I think we have each overs points mixed up. I am saying hatred of muslims is not held by most whites, just a small number who do these attacks. The articles I posted are pointing out how any hatred for minorities is mirrored back in equal amounts. Hence why painting the racism as only going one way is misrepresenting the situation. Of course the woolwich attack will make the racist elements of society "fight back" but we need to point to the individual groups (EDL, BNP) rather than say "oh most Britons are racist" The EDL doesn't have many members so hopefully people start to disassociate with them and the whole thing can die out. Apologies for my quip earlier it was uncalled for and started this whole thing. [QUOTE=Bichak;41242091]k [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youcef_Nadarkhani[/url][/QUOTE] The Iranian government distanced themselves from saying it was religiously motivated and he was released. Muslims aren't some barbaric people wanting blood for minor sleights, the vast, vast majority are good people but the negative incidents are blown out of proportion and it ruins the whole religions reputation.
[QUOTE=Bobie;41242117]you pretty much just proved his point lol[/QUOTE] k [url]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7ba_1372272716[/url] [editline]29th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=benwaddi;41242312]I think we have each overs points mixed up. I am saying hatred of muslims is not held by most whites, just a small number who do these attacks. The articles I posted are pointing out how any hatred for minorities is mirrored back in equal amounts. Hence why painting the racism as only going one way is misrepresenting the situation. Of course the woolwich attack will make the racist elements of society "fight back" but we need to point to the individual groups (EDL, BNP) rather than say "oh most Britons are racist" The EDL doesn't have many members so hopefully people start to disassociate with them and the whole thing can die out. Apologies for my quip earlier it was uncalled for and started this whole thing. The Iranian government distanced themselves from saying it was religiously motivated and he was released. Muslims aren't some barbaric people wanting blood for minor sleights, the vast, vast majority are good people but the negative incidents are blown out of proportion and it ruins the whole religions reputation.[/QUOTE] Arresting him for such thing is savagery to begin with.
This just sounds like two small, loud, and violent groups of people from two different sides are causing shit and embarrassment for both sides.
[QUOTE=Bichak;41242393]k [url]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7ba_1372272716[/url] [/QUOTE] those are fucking cannibals, do you think they're quite sane to begin with and the FSA is made out of many different groups, some secularists and some of the most radical of the radicals
[QUOTE=KingArcher;41242928]those are fucking cannibals, do you think they're quite sane to begin with[/QUOTE] Gee, I wonder why they're cannibals. It's definitely not religion or anything. inb4 living conditions/corrupt country [url]http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/05/horror-islamist-talks-to-camera-after-beheading-uk-soldier-on-street-of-woolrich-video/[/url]
[QUOTE=Bichak;41243018]Gee, I wonder why they're cannibals. It's definitely not religion or anything. [/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure the Quran doesn't tell you to eat people
[QUOTE=KingArcher;41243036]Yeah I'm pretty sure it isn't in the religion. Where in the Quran does it tell you to eat people[/QUOTE] How could you relate eating people to anything, you dolt.
[QUOTE=Bichak;41243052]How could you relate eating people to anything, you dolt.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Gee, I wonder why they're cannibals. It's definitely not religion or anything.[/QUOTE] Granted that that's sarcasm, aren't we talking about Islamist cannibals here?
[QUOTE=KingArcher;41243068]I'm talking about cannibals here what are you talking about[/QUOTE] Why would anyone relate cannibals to muslims? P.S. [url]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fdf_1368368251[/url]
Why the hell is Christchurch there on that graph? It's way closer to Bournemouth and Southampton than that, it's pretty much slightly north of and in the middle of both. I think I've seen the mosque there, it's not particularly apparent apart from the minaret. It's fairly modern. [editline]29th June 2013[/editline] Just realised, they basically put Christchurch in London. Who designed that map?
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[QUOTE=KingArcher;41243157]I can't even understand you now gj[/QUOTE] relate*
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;41243139]Why the hell is Christchurch there on that graph? It's way closer to Bournemouth and Southampton than that, it's pretty much slightly north of and in the middle of both. I think I've seen the mosque there, it's not particularly apparent apart from the minaret. It's fairly modern. [editline]29th June 2013[/editline] Just realised, they basically put Christchurch in London. Who designed that map?[/QUOTE] It's Daily Mail mate but the usual backlash against them is missing from this thread for a variety of reasons. So yeah treat the article as you would any other by the Daily Mail, with a pinch of salt.
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