• Around 50% of British mosques have been attacked since 9/11
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The BBC telegraph didn't mention these events a single time, explain this. I also didn't get any BBC carrier pigeons, there is a conspiracy perpetrated by the Islamofascist BBC to whitewash all crimes against good honest (white) Britains in order to institute Sharianazi Osama Mosque Burqa Koran Fascism Jihad Family Values Family Vailll i=92787h3d,,,
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;41244384][url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22636240[/url] ""I asked him if he did it and he said, 'Yes,' and I said, 'Why?' And he said because he has killed Muslim people in Muslim countries, he said he was a British soldier and I said, 'Really?' and he said, 'I killed him because he killed Muslims and I am fed up with people killing Muslims in Afghanistan, they have nothing to do there.'" [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22624100[/url] The whole goddamn article is about radical Islam in Britain. [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303[/url] "According to senior Whitehall sources the people carrying out the attack were heard to say: "Allahu Akbar [God is Great]", BBC political editor Nick Robinson reported." [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22673164[/url] Article of the murderer's ties to al-Shabab They did not attempt to hide the murderer's ideology, they just didn't revel in it as I know you'd have loved them to. Quite frankly, using the term "chimp out" seriously sort of exposed everything we need to know about you.[/QUOTE] Obviously they tried to pull a carpet over it. The majority of Brits still don't know it was an Islamist attack, because they are trying too hard to not mention the Islamic side of it.
[QUOTE=Bichak;41244486] The majority of Brits still don't know it was an Islamist attack, because they are trying too hard to not mention the Islamic side of it.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure if you live here or not but the majority of the country is very aware the attack was Islamic motivated, this is why attacks of Muslim and increased significantly in the past two months or so since it happened.
I was just about to print 500 'Muslims are fucking evil and scare the fuck out of me (I'm also a paranoid racist)' T-shirts. Can I have your address to send you one, or did you already pre-order?
[QUOTE=Bichak;41244253]Admit that the majority of British families don't know the attack was Islamist.[/QUOTE] LOL are you fucking kidding??
[QUOTE=RG4ORDR;41239012]Do the British have a deeper hatred of Muslims than any other county? I mean there are people in the US that hate or dislike Muslims but it seems like a decent portion of the Britons REALLY hate Muslims.[/QUOTE] From what I see in news articles, the British people seem to be a bit bigoted towards them more than most, but the government is the complete opposite, going out of their way to pass ridiculous laws that target muslims' feelings at the expense of everyone else
[QUOTE=TheTalon;41245108]From what I see in news articles, the British people seem to be a bit bigoted towards them more than most, but the government is the complete opposite, going out of their way to pass ridiculous laws that target muslims' feelings at the expense of everyone else[/QUOTE] What laws?
As a former muslim, I think Islam can certainly coexist with non islamic culture. We need to love one or another not fight.
[QUOTE=Iago;41245358]As a former muslim, I think Islam can certainly coexist with non islamic culture. We need to love one or another not fight.[/QUOTE] As a former muslim, I know that Islam can't coexist with non Islamic culture. Islam doesn't tolerate what other religions tolerate.
A Sikh temple around Perth in Aus had a dead pig thrown into it... figures someone stupid enough to do so is stupid enough to not understand that Sikh and Islam are different. [editline]30th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Bichak;41247101]As a former muslim, I know that Islam can't coexist with non Islamic culture. Islam doesn't tolerate what other religions tolerate.[/QUOTE] I've noticed the trend with religions is that Muslims hate everyone and everyone hates the Jews.
[QUOTE=Bichak;41243894]Pretty much this. Islam says: Spread Islam, stop anyone who tries to stop you. Christianity says: Spread Christianity, stop anyone who tries to stop you. And the greatest shitstorm of all times begins.[/QUOTE] your interpreting the crusades as being part of christianity's spread as a whole. Missionary generally did not go into places and slaughter everyone who didn't believe in christ. Most of the time they were very isolated so they had to adapt to the local customs. Missionarys have been to just about every country in the world and other religions exist side by side with christianity in many places. still you are right about islam, its not that it can't be peaceful its just it seems to be easy to interpret it as a message to go mess up other people's shit [editline]30th June 2013[/editline] is this what it was like to live in the 50s and watch the world get blanketed by comunism? replace commie with muslim and the news is almost exactly the same as it was in 1950
probably more than 50% of churches in muslim countries have been threatened in some way.
[QUOTE=Iago;41245358]As a former muslim, I think Islam can certainly coexist with non islamic culture. We need to love one or another not fight.[/QUOTE] Islamic empires used to be famed for their tolerance of different religions but that was before the Crusades and Mongol invasion messed that up.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41248003]Islamic empires used to be famed for their tolerance of different religions but that was before the Crusades and Mongol invasion messed that up.[/QUOTE] Lmao. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Expedition_of_Wadi_al-Qura[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Banu_Qurayza[/url]
[QUOTE=Kypba;41249652]Lmao. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Expedition_of_Wadi_al-Qura[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Banu_Qurayza[/url][/QUOTE] Except that Rangergxi is right for the most part. Historically many Muslim states did have religious tolerance built into their law system. That doesn't mean it was always respected all the time - the same as all religions.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;41249689]Except that Rangergxi is right for the most part. Historically many Muslim states did have religious tolerance built into their law system. That doesn't mean it was always respected all the time - the same as all religions.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya[/url] [editline]30th June 2013[/editline] Seems pretty tolerant if you ask me. Tolerating non-muslims if they pay you money. If they don't, then they don't tolerate them. Is this your sense of tolerance?
[QUOTE=Kypba;41249698][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya[/url] [editline]30th June 2013[/editline] Seems pretty tolerant if you ask me.[/QUOTE] This is a fairly reasonable summation of religious tolerance. You'll note that it explicitly states that non-muslims were allowed to practice freely and did not have to get involved in muslim affairs. It also states that non-muslims who didn't pay the tax could freely leave to avoid it. By todays standards it sucks, but in context it's a fairly good example of historical tolerance.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;41249723]This is a fairly reasonable summation of religious tolerance. You'll note that it explicitly states that non-muslims were allowed to practice freely and did not have to get involved in muslim affairs. It also states that non-muslims who didn't pay the tax could freely leave to avoid it. By todays standards it sucks, but in context it's a fairly good example of historical tolerance.[/QUOTE] It's not tolerant at all if you ask me. Imagine allowing local muslims to live in Europe if they pay tax. Discriminating non-muslims this way is pretty untolerant to begin with. During the Ottoman invasion of western Anatolia, churches were converted into mosques or left in ruins. Being a vital part of Christianity, Istanbul has only a few churches left.
[QUOTE=Kypba;41249758]It's not tolerant at all if you ask me. Imagine allowing local muslims to live in Europe if they pay tax. Discriminating non-muslims this way is pretty untolerant to begin with. During the Ottoman invasion of western Anatolia, churches were converted into mosques or left in ruins. Being a vital part of Christianity, Istanbul has only a few churches left.[/QUOTE] Like I say, today it's certainly not a good thing. It is discriminatory and horrible - but they still had their choice and by law had the right to continue their way of life. That didn't exist in a lot of areas at all times. The ability to even have a choice is deemed as tolerance in an age where religious freedom didn't count for much. [editline]30th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=bull3tmagn3t;41247517]probably more than 50% of churches in muslim countries have been threatened in some way.[/QUOTE] Show evidence for it. Don't make assumptions. There are statistics for terrorist attacks on churches in countries like Iraq and Nigeria, but I can't find anything concrete that doesn't come from a really bias source. I'm sure it's there somewhere though.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;41249772]Like I say, today it's certainly not a good thing. It is discriminatory and horrible - but they still had their choice and by law had the right to continue their way of life. That didn't exist in a lot of areas at all times. The ability to even have a choice is deemed as tolerance in an age where religious freedom didn't count for much. [editline]30th June 2013[/editline] Show evidence for it. Don't make assumptions. There are statistics for terrorist attacks on churches in countries like Iraq and Nigeria, but I can't find anything concrete that doesn't come from a really bias source. I'm sure it's there somewhere though.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_attacks_on_Christians_in_southern_Karnataka[/url] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-22425364[/url] [url]http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/ChristianAttacks.htm[/url] I can confirm all of the attacks that happened in Turkey, the webpage creates the list from news. [editline]30th June 2013[/editline] And the reason there aren't many church attacks in Sharia countries is because there are nearly no churches in them. They're getting shut down by the governments. [QUOTE]Saudi Arabia allows Christians to enter the country as foreign workers for temporary work, but does not allow them to practice their faith openly. Because of that Christians generally only worship in secret within private homes.[3] Items and articles belonging to religions other than Islam are prohibited.[3] These include Bibles, crucifixes, statues, carvings, items with religious symbols, and others.[3][/QUOTE] Wikipedia. Mosque attacks wouldn't exist if mosques didn't exist either. If churches existed in Saudi Arabia, it would be a lot worse. Imagine how many armed Islam extremists live there.
We can all agree Saudi Arabia is a shithole. [editline]30th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Kypba;41249832][URL]http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/ChristianAttacks.htm[/URL][/QUOTE] It does not reference any of the events on the list. It's not valid. You can't fact check it.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;41249865]We can all agree Saudi Arabia is a shithole. [editline]30th June 2013[/editline] It does not reference any of the events on the list. It's not valid. You can't fact check it.[/QUOTE] You can fact check it, at least I did so with the attacks in Turkey. They've been in the Turkish news as well. There are 9 listed attacks from Turkey on that page. Let me list them all for you with their sources if you're not convinced (note that Turkey is the most secular muslim majority country): [QUOTE]"An 85-year-old Christian woman is stabbed to death by an attacker who then carves a cross on her body." [url]http://www.yerelgaste.com/Detay.aspx?gn=1201[/url] "An 84-year-old Christian woman is stabbed to death by a Muslim in what is called a 'racist' attack." [url]http://www.cnnturk.com/2013/turkiye/03/04/samatya.saldirgani.yakalandi/698689.0/[/url] "Radicals rush into a church and assault a pastor when he refuses to embrace Islam." [url]http://www.internethaber.com/kilise-gorevlisine-saldiri-hristiyan-din-adamlarina-dinler-arasi-catisma-medeniy-414871h.htm[/url] "A Christian laborer is severely tortured with scalding water on orders of his Muslim employer." [url]http://barnabasfund.org/AU/Iranian-convert-scalded-with-hot-water-while-seeking-asylum-in-Turkey.html[/url] "A Catholic bishop is stabbed to death by a Muslim who says it was Allah's will." [url]http://www.radikal.com.tr/turkiye/iskenderunda_hiristiyan_din_adami_olduruldu-1000513[/url] "A Christian is stabbed shortly after leaving a church by a Muslim who said he just 'wanted to kill a Christian.'" [url]http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/shows/cwn/2009/January/Muslim-Sentenced-for-Stabbing-Priest-/?Print=true[/url] "A 65-year-old priest is stabbed during mass by a young Muslim angered over Christian "proselytizing." [url]http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2007/12/italian-priest-stabbed-by-youth-after-mass-in-turkey/[/url] "Three Christians working at a Bible distribution company are brutally tortured and murdered by local Islamists. All three had their throats cut." [url]http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2007/04/18/son/sontur43.asp[/url] "A Catholic priest is murdered by an assailant who shouts 'Allah Akbar!' after he fires the gun." [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Santoro[/url][/QUOTE] 9 listed attacks from Turkey on that webpage, and I just confirmed all of them.
[QUOTE=Kypba;41249892]You can fact check it, at least I did so with the attacks in Turkey. They've been in the Turkish news as well.[/QUOTE] Alrighty. But what does this prove? Extremists are horrible people? Well there aren't many that'll argue with that. Islam has it's problems, and there is an extremist movement embedded as there was with Christianity in the middle/late ages. I just don't believe that Muslims or Islam should be feared or hated in general.
[QUOTE=Kypba;41249698][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya[/URL] [editline]30th June 2013[/editline] Seems pretty tolerant if you ask me. Tolerating non-muslims if they pay you money. If they don't, then they don't tolerate them. Is this your sense of tolerance?[/QUOTE] As opposed to forced conversions in Christian countries and if you refused you'd be executed. Yeah, I'd say Jizya tax was much more tolerant.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;41249964]As opposed to forced conversions in Christian countries and if you refused you'd be executed. Yeah, I'd say Jizya tax was much more tolerant.[/QUOTE] As if Muhammad himself didn't genocide non-muslim tribes. Both Islam and Christianity are shit. You telling us Christianity is bad doesn't change the fact that Islam is bad. And banning me so I can't reply you? That's low. [QUOTE=Kypba;41249652]Lmao. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Expedition_of_Wadi_al-Qura[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Banu_Qurayza[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Yohidi;41250001]As if Muhammad himself didn't genocide non-muslim tribes. Both Islam and Christianity are shit. You telling us Christianity is bad doesn't change the fact that Islam is bad. And banning me so I can't reply you? That's low.[/QUOTE] Shit son you're in trouble. Also, it's kinda weird you've only been talking about Islam even if you think both religions are shit. Makes you sounds kinda.. um.. one sided. Especially as you don't appreciate that Islam countries gave people a legal choice, and not a forced conversion.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;41250027]Shit son you're in trouble. Also, it's kinda weird you've only been talking about Islam even if you think both religions are shit. Makes you sounds kinda.. um.. one sided. Especially as you don't appreciate that Islam countries gave people a legal choice, and not a forced conversion.[/QUOTE] Because I used to be muslim, then I dropped religion and became irreligious after discovering how filthy Islam and other Abrahamic religions are. I am focused on bashing Islam because I don't know much about Christianity or Judaism. I grew up learning Islam in this muslim majority country, not Christianity. Just like how European liberals bash their own religion instead of another country's.
You seem to know enough about Judaism to know about what the Jews want to do: [QUOTE=Yohidi;41250023]Jews are smart rascals who are taking revenge. They know multiculturalism will destroy a region's values, they're using it as a weapon.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;41250081]You seem to know enough about Judaism to know about what the Jews want to do:[/QUOTE] Their motivation =/= their religion or beliefs.
[QUOTE=BCell;41240877]These people needs to get out of the country and meet new people. They are attack Muslims because they do not understand them. If they actually learn to understand Islam and the way of Muslims, they would never resort to violence on other people. [/QUOTE] You don't need to even leave the country to meet new people. Britain as a whole is indeed rather multicultural and it's more of a case of going to a city and speaking to the people who live there.
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