Battlefield 3 PC Version won't have in-game server browser
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[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;31832051]DId you hear the part where I said my game freezes, not everyone uses firefox or chrome or that browsers take a while to start up?[/QUOTE]
Browsers don't take a while to start up unless your PC is a piece of shit, you've been treating it like a piece of shit and not maintaining it, or you've been installing every toolbar under the sun, in which case, you should burn the PC as it has suffered enough.
Your constant freezing isn't Vista, as much as you would like to believe, it's something with your PC itself. And instead of complaining about how long the browser takes to start, use some fucking initiative and leave the thing open while playing, the game isn't that resource hungry if the Alpha is anything to go by, I was able to leave Firefox, with around 15 addons installed, with Facebook, Twitter, Facepunch (about 6 threads) and BattleLog open all at the same time. The game ran fine. All on 4GB RAM.
[QUOTE=Jaehead;31832278]there's no reason why they should scrap their current system[/QUOTE] Did I ever say they had to? No they could just have to options. It wouldn't be hard at all to do at all.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;31832300]Did I ever say they had to? No they could just have to options. It wouldn't be hard at all to do at all.[/QUOTE]
but why would they when the current system works?
And how do you know that it's easy to add an in-game browser?
And honestly? I like BattleLog, being able to organize my squad before joining the game is useful, the system ensure that all players in that squad are connected to the same server, at the same time, then put into a squad in game, no faffing around with the menus when you could be playing, no sending IP addresses or names to everybody who you want to play with. Just a simple, join squad, play game.
Plus the stat tracking is useful.
Compared to DICE server browsers of old, BattleLog is nice, it actually works, which is more than can be said for almost all their old browsers which have massive flaws, or are just slow and clunky. BattleLog looks nice, has a ton of functionality and is very simple. The game launches in under a minute, putting you in control straight away, no "now loading" screen, that is all handled in BattleLog before the client opens.
[QUOTE=Jaehead;31832347]but why would they when the current system works?
[/QUOTE] Because its good to have options and it wouldn't be that hard to put in a browser especially if the console version has it. I'm not the only one who wants options here.
i might as well just get Mw3
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;31832384]Because its good to have options and it wouldn't be that hard to put in a browser especially if the console version has it. I'm not the only one who wants options here.[/QUOTE]
It would be nice to have the in game browser as an option, but only if it worked like Source, where you don't have to disconnect to even look for a new server. Unfortunately, DICE suck at in game browsers and all their games have the issue of needing to clear resources out before you can see servers for some reason.
Just leave BattleLog in the background, it takes 1 to 2 minutes tops if your internet connection is as bad as mine to find a decent server (and that's being picky and browsing the list, not just clicking the first empty server). The game closes near instantly, and loads pretty fucking quick.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;31832384]Because its good to have options and it wouldn't be that hard to put in a browser especially if the console version has it. I'm not the only one who wants options here.[/QUOTE]
speaking of consoles' server browsers, why did DICE take time to develop this web-based server browser instead of just carrying over the consoles' browsers? It's probably because it's more efficient
options can be good, but when you have multiple things necessarily doing the same thing, it ends up being cumbersome. It's just like having 5 different video players installed. you just pick and choose one that works the best. In this case, they chose the web-based server browser, probably because it worked out the best
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[QUOTE=SonicHitman;31832415]i might as well just get Mw3[/QUOTE]
now I'm not just picking on you, but to everyone who said something along the lines of this, it's like you guys buy games based on how many PC-centered features they have rather than looking at the elements that actually make up the game itself
[QUOTE=Jon-Ace;31828065]So what happens when/if Battlelog goes down?[/QUOTE]
Then same thing if the EA login servers go down.
Edit: late.
[QUOTE=Jaehead;31832446]speaking of consoles' server browsers, why did DICE take time to develop this web-based server browser instead of just carrying over the consoles' browsers? It's probably because it's more efficient[/QUOTE] Well then people could choose the one they like and not use the one they don't.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;31832564]Well then people could choose the one they like and not use the one they don't.[/QUOTE]
what's there to like in a server browser anyway?
what makes server browsers good, is how fast and efficiently they can put you into a good-sized game with low ping
Now I'm more tempted to buy Modern Warfare 3 instead.
[QUOTE=Jaehead;31832612]what's there to like in a server browser anyway?
what makes server browsers good, is how fast and efficiently they can put you into a good-sized game with low ping[/QUOTE] For many it means they don't have to alt tap/quit there game or wait for there browser to load or have to sign in through a website. Sure there will be many who like the feel of battlelog but thats not going to be true for everyone especially if cod fanboys or angry gamers want to try to mess with the site in any way it would be nice to ahve another way to get in.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;31832983]For many it means they don't have to alt tap/quit there game or wait for there browser to load or have to sign in through a website. Sure there will be many who like the feel of battlelog but thats not going to be true for everyone especially if cod fanboys or angry gamers want to try to mess with the site in any way it would be nice to ahve another way to get in.[/QUOTE]
Leave the fucking browser open then. It doesn't take rocket science to work that one out. And the website uses cookies, it can remember that you are logged in over a certain period of time. Plenty of time to play the game, and open the browser again without logging back in.
Holy shit it's like you are actually 12 and do not yet understand the critical thinking skills you will need as an adult. You aren't even thinking of ways to get around your "problems".
[editline]20th August 2011[/editline]
Plus the site should be hosted on multiple nodes around the world, if one goes down from a DDoS (because nobody is that good at them, only one will go), the others will stay up. The exact same way Steam services tend to work.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;31833063]Leave the fucking browser open then. It doesn't take rocket science to work that one out. And the website uses cookies, it can remember that you are logged in over a certain period of time. Plenty of time to play the game, and open the browser again without logging back in.
[b]Holy shit it's like you are actually 12 and do not yet understand the critical thinking skills you will need as an adult. You aren't even thinking of ways to get around your "problems".[/b]
[editline]20th August 2011[/editline]
Plus the site should be hosted on multiple nodes around the world, if one goes down from a DDoS (because nobody is that good at them, only one will go), the others will stay up. The exact same way Steam services tend to work.[/QUOTE]
Seriously, couldn't have said that any better myself.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;31832983]For many it means they don't have to alt tap/quit there game or wait for there browser to load or have to sign in through a website. Sure there will be many who like the feel of battlelog but thats not going to be true for everyone.[/QUOTE]
In most games, when you hit leave game, you get sent to the main menu.
In this game, when you hit leave game, you get sent to battlelog.
In most games, when you click on a server you want to join, the game starts loading.
In this game, when you click on a server you want to join, the game also starts loading.
What's the difference?
They can quit and start the game whenever they want to switch servers, because that's how the system is designed. They made it so that launches/exits are lightning quick.
Of course you have to sign in. Is that not the case with every other online service? You sign in once, at the beginning.
As for your ending statement, I can also say:
Sure, there will be many who like the feel of an in-game browser, but that's not going to be true for everyone.
What are you trying to say with that?
Don't whine on it being slow that it will freeze unless you have tried it.
[editline]20th August 2011[/editline]
People need to understand Battlelog IS the main menu just that it's a faster less resource demanding main menu. Starting the game from pressing "join server" does not take a long time because it can skip all the intro movies etc and skip loading a main menu and just instantly start loading the server. And leaving the game and joining a new server is just as fast as leaving a server to main menu in any other game and then joining a new server.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;31833063]Leave the fucking browser open then. It doesn't take rocket science to work that one out. And the website uses cookies, it can remember that you are logged in over a certain period of time. Plenty of time to play the game, and open the browser again without logging back in.[/QUOTE] I was talking about first starting the game. Really how can you not agree with me that having 2 options is a good thing.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;31833413]I was talking about first starting the game. Really how can you not agree with me that having 2 options is a good thing.[/QUOTE]
I did agree a bit further up in the thread. Having the in game browser as an option would be lovely. But DICE aren't great at them, so it doesn't bother me that much.
They might change it before release like with the commo-rose mind you, they do actually listen to us.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;31833449]They might change it before release like with the commo-rose mind you, they do actually listen to us.[/QUOTE] Exactly I hope with enough concern they could put both in. I'm not saying battlelog sucks because I didn't use it but i'm saying having both would make a lot of sense.
Enemy ghost page spotted!
If they're going to do anything to "fix" it, they will probably just make it so the main menu of BF3 is a browser-like menu.
Oh no, the game is ruined, I'm going to go buy call of duty because I'm such a rebel :downs:
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;31833469]Exactly I hope with enough concern they could put both in. I'm not saying battlelog sucks because I didn't use it but i'm saying having both would make a lot of sense.[/QUOTE]
99.9% sure they won't change it. No real reason to do so.
[editline]20th August 2011[/editline]
Seriously, having multiple options for a game is stupid.
[quote]Console gamers now have in-game server browser, while PC gamers don’t. [/quote]
I just simply cannot fathom this bullshit.
why
[i]whyyyyyyyyyy[/i]
Why do you always have to change something that isn't broken? When did simple convenience become obsolete?
Idiots. Idiots everywhere.
Fuck this.
I rather play Counter Strike.
1.6
[QUOTE=Whiplash~;31834934]I just simply cannot fathom this bullshit.
why
[i]whyyyyyyyyyy[/i]
Why do you always have to change something that isn't broken? When did simple convenience become obsolete?
Idiots. Idiots everywhere.[/QUOTE]
If you'd listen to the alpha players it performs better than BC2's server browser and faster.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;31834843]Seriously, having multiple options for a game is stupid.[/QUOTE]
Uh, I quite like being able to join a Source game server by either the in game browser, a link from a website, the steam server browser or the steam overlay web/server browser.
It's just convenient, okay
That'd be funny if Activision took advantage of this.
[QUOTE=wewt!;31835023]Uh, I quite like being able to join a Source game server by either the in game browser, a link from a website, the steam server browser or the steam overlay web/server browser.
It's just convenient, okay[/QUOTE]
You'll be able to do all that with Battlelog. The only difference is Steam has a platform that allows for that to occur. No one ever expected Battlefield 3 to use Steamworks.
I wonder when they're going to release a [b]real[/b] sequel to BF2.
[editline]20th August 2011[/editline]
probably never.
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