[QUOTE=Adarrek;33315396]Nothing will happen[/QUOTE]
with a do-nothing mentality like this, it'll pass the next time they try to sneak it through.
When will they decide to pass it/get rid of it?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;33315624]When will they decide to pass it/get rid of it?[/QUOTE]
Can't see in the future man.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;33315305]I've chosen this subject for a persuasive essay assignment for my composition course, and I'll definitely be sending that essay along to the representatives.
This is wrong on so many different levels.[/QUOTE]
As am I, but BDA's will be better.
[QUOTE=Zah;33315189]I would agree, but that popup really pisses me off.[/QUOTE]
Then imagine how pissed off you'll be when you go to your favorite sites and see "Blocked by order of the RIAA."
This is bound to be turned down. It's only a matter of time.
Oh god what
[quote]The European Parliament has adopted a resolution which criticizes domain name seizures of “infringing” websites by US authorities. According to the resolution these measures need to be countered as they endanger “the integrity of the global internet and freedom of communication.” With this stance the European Parliament joins an ever-growing list of opposition to the Stop Online Piracy Act .
euStarting in 2010, US authorities have used domain name seizures as a standard tool to take down websites that are deemed to facilitate copyright infringement.
Despite fierce criticism from the public, legal experts and civil liberties groups, taking control of domain names is now one of the measures included in the pending Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), legislation designed to give copyright holders more tools to protect their rights against foreign sites.
Opposition to SOPA has been swelling in recent days, and today the European Parliament adds its voice by heavily criticizing the domain seizures that are part of it.
A resolution on the EU-US Summit that will be held later this month stresses “the need to protect the integrity of the global internet and freedom of communication by refraining from unilateral measures to revoke IP addresses or domain names.”
If SOPA does indeed become law the US would be able to shut down domains worldwide, as long as they are somehow managed by US companies. This includes the popular .com, .org and .net domains, and thus has the potential to affect many large websites belonging to companies in EU member states.
This can lead to problematic situations.
During one of the seizure rounds earlier this year, US authorities took the domain name Rojadirecta, which belongs to the Spanish company Puerto 80. The site in question had been declared legal in Spain by two courts, but it only took a simple warrant for ICE to take it offline.
Puerto 80 is currently involved in a legal battle in the US to get their domain back, and has reportedly suffered significant losses in traffic and revenue from their streaming portal.
This notice appears on seized sites.
seized
If SOPA passes and these seizures become common practice, thousands of companies will face the threat of losing their domains.
The RIAA and MPAA for example pointed out that they consider the Russian social networking site VKontakte and the Chinese media portal Xunlei as potential targets. These two companies employ hundreds, if not thousands of people, and both are even considering going public on the American stock exchange.
By adopting a resolution against domains seizures the European Parliament recognizes the dangerous precedent the pending SOPA legislation would set, and it wouldn’t be a surprise if more foreign criticism follows.
No country should have the ability to simply take over international domain names, and surely the US would feel the same if this plan was put in motion by a foreign country. Or as some 60 press freedom and human rights advocate groups put it in their letter to the US representatives:
“This is as unacceptable to the international community as it would be if a foreign country were to impose similar measures on the United States.”[/quote]
Hey Europe, can I come over and hang out until this whole thing settles down?
How can they even [I]consider[/I] passing a bill that is [B]blatantly[/B] unconstitutional?
This country is is deep shit.
[QUOTE=Alexak75;33315921]How can they even [I]consider[/I] passing a bill that is [B]blatantly[/B] unconstitutional?
This country is is deep shit.[/QUOTE]
Because the politicians can't stop going up and down on the laps of corporations. When push comes to shove, the lobbyists and corporate sector have a majority, though not all, of politicians from practically every party in their hands to try to get bills that help them passed - constitution be damned, usually.
how to fight piracy simple: make cheaper and better products while you will lose some money you will make more back but no this is common sense and as we all know we can`t have that
also didn`t they try this before
yeah, nah, this is fucking stupid.
[QUOTE=Wormy;33315789]I thought it was spelled soppa?[/QUOTE]
Men snälla nån, soppa* är ju mat.
Editors note* Soppa means food
Whoa even EU has responded. Many people will be enraged if this somehow passes.
So when will they vote on this bullshit bill?
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;33316670]Whoa even EU has responded. Many people will be enraged if this somehow passes.[/QUOTE]
EU Parliament response != official response from EU, but yes. One of the times I'm glad to be in the EU, they voted down ACTA when it was much worse as well.
[editline]17th November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mr.T;33316794]So when will they vote on this bullshit bill?[/QUOTE]
Didn't they vote yesterday? 16th it was, I think. Not sure of timezones.
Unconstitutionality does not matter when there's nobody to denounce it. And when all the congressmen and senators are bought tools there's nobody to denounce it.
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;33318036]Unconstitutionality does not matter when there's nobody to denounce it. And when all the congressmen and senators are bought tools there's nobody to denounce it.[/QUOTE]
President can (and should) veto it. Depending on how the voting goes, congress might not have enough to override the veto. Even if they manage to override the veto, the supreme court would end up getting a case on the constitutionality of the whole thing and hopefully they are smart enough to strike it down. But the amount of trust I can give is so small right now.
I've been surprised before, hope i wont be this time.
The opposition of this bill is huge. It will never hold, don't worry guys.
So far the opposition of this bill consists of nearly all of the internet's hard hitters. Facebook, google, mozilla and more. Also, the newest opposition to the bill happens to be the entire EU congress. Because this doesn't just affect the united states. This bill will affect the world and it's interaction with the internet. Many countries will not sit idly by while some foreign nation censors their internet.
I don't know why, but the states think they own the internet. Sure it was founded in America, but its a shared tool of the world.
In short, the success of this bill is a long shot.
It will fail, but like always it will be brought back to the table in a couple months with a few alterations, and get shot down again. This will repeat until they either give up, or succeed.
I suspect they are wasting a whole lot more money on this bill than they would have lost due to piracy in the first place.
So in the end, the joke is on them.
Damn if this passes.... how will I get my Linux distros now?
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;33318633]The opposition of this bill is huge. It will never hold, don't worry guys.
So far the opposition of this bill consists of nearly all of the internet's hard hitters. Facebook, google, mozilla and more. Also, the newest opposition to the bill happens to be the entire EU congress. Because this doesn't just affect the united states. This bill will affect the world and it's interaction with the internet. Many countries will not sit idly by while some foreign nation censors their internet.
I don't know why, but the states think they own the internet. Sure it was founded in America, but its a shared tool of the world.
In short, the success of this bill is a long shot.
It will fail, but like always it will be brought back to the table in a couple months with a few alterations, and get shot down again. This will repeat until they either give up, or succeed.
I suspect they are wasting a whole lot more money on this bill than they would have lost due to piracy in the first place.
So in the end, the joke is on them.[/QUOTE]
Taxes on alcohol used to make up about 70% of the federal budget. Despite massive opposition from some of the biggest and richest companies in the country, Congress passed an income tax act followed by Prohibition.
Do not underestimate how astoundingly stupid Congressional decisions can be.
It's like the government wants to be overthrown
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;33319015]Taxes on alcohol used to make up about 70% of the federal budget. Despite massive opposition from some of the biggest and richest companies in the country, Congress passed an income tax act followed by Prohibition.
Do not underestimate how astoundingly stupid Congressional decisions can be.[/QUOTE]
Very true.
Still, we know how prohibition turned out don't we? lol
I'd also like to think people are a little smarter these days than they were back in the prohibition era.
However, the republicans are hell bent on proving me otherwise
Another unconstitutional bullshit movement of hippies. What the fuck is this country coming to?
[QUOTE=faze;33319444]Another unconstitutional bullshit movement of hippies. What the fuck is this country coming to?[/QUOTE]
If it would make you feel better, I could get off your lawn.
[QUOTE=Askaris;33319548]If it would make you feel better, I could get off your lawn.[/QUOTE]
Please do. lol
Anti-Piracy legislation only affects non-pirates, they need to understand that. Pirates can't be stopped, only temporarily deterred.
So since today is almost over, is there a result?
If someone posts a link to the frontpage of The pirate bay and this forum gets closed down for promoting piracy, then there's your answer.
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