Australian PM withdraws as speaker for the ACL after it's 'Smoking healthier than being gay' commen

[Lil D]

[QUOTE=IPK;37560580]Well the guy who said it is dumb,smoking kills your lungs while being gay is just a hormone defect.[/QUOTE]

And by a hormone defect you mean a choice someone makes right?

[Pierrewithahat]

[QUOTE=Lil D;37566096]And by a hormone defect you mean a choice someone makes right?[/QUOTE]

One doesn't exactly choose who they're attracted to either, it's pretty likely in my vaguely educated opinion that it has a genetic root and then furthered by experiences in the open world.

[Coffee]

I've always thought it was upbringing and how the environment around you affects you which decided what your sexuality was.

I suppose genetics has a play as well, and probably what happens to the mother during pregnancy.

[Pierrewithahat]

[QUOTE=Coffee;37566351]I've always thought it was upbringing and how the environment around you affects you which decided what your sexuality was.[/QUOTE]

If it was your upbringing then gay parents would have gay adopted kids, but they don't, so it's not upbringing.

[Coffee]

[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;37566385]If it was your upbringing then gay parents would have gay adopted kids, but they don't, so it's not upbringing.[/QUOTE]

no, not like that.

if the parents are fairly liberal in their beliefs, they might bring up their child to keep an open mind when it comes to everything. so when the child gets to the age of lustfulness, they might just happen to decide that they're attracted to men as they might not see anything wrong with that.

[Pierrewithahat]

[QUOTE=Coffee;37566489]no, not like that.

if the parents are fairly liberal in their beliefs, they might bring up their child to keep an open mind when it comes to everything. so when the child gets to the age of lustfulness, they might just happen to decide that they're attracted to men as they might not see anything wrong with that.[/QUOTE]

You're implying that there's any conscious decision in who or what you find attractive, it's the same principle that re-education camps go on and it's not true.

If anything the fact that the parents are more open would only mean that if the kid was gay they'd be more likely to accept it instead of hiding it, nothing more.

[Gurant]

[QUOTE=Bean Shoot;37559304][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82x9pzHkHK4[/media][/QUOTE]

I watched half of this video and was thinking "what the fuck?!"
then I noticed the onion in the background :v:

[DainBramageStud]

[QUOTE=Coffee;37566489]no, not like that.

if the parents are fairly liberal in their beliefs, they might bring up their child to keep an open mind when it comes to everything. so when the child gets to the age of lustfulness, they might just happen to decide that they're attracted to men as they might not see anything wrong with that.[/QUOTE]

This hypothesis isn't supported by the evidence. Look at all of the gay people that get raised in horrible fundamentalist families and have to keep it a secret their whole lives. You'd think that if homosexuality was significantly dependent on those factors of upbringing, you wouldn't see it in those communities. On the other hand there may be more gay people who are confident enough to come out in more liberal societies, but the proportion of gays to straights is pretty much the same.

[fancy ghost ☂]

[quote]it has higher rates of drug-taking, of suicide, it has the life of a male reduced by up to 20 years[/quote]

those [i]are[/i] interesting numbers (if they're true), regardless of whatever they're using them to advertise

I wonder if it's a weird coincidence or there's actually a direct link to being gay and having a shorter lifespan

[Nerts]

[QUOTE=cccritical;37567757]those [i]are[/i] interesting numbers (if they're true), regardless of whatever they're using them to advertise

I wonder if it's a weird coincidence or there's actually a direct link to being gay and having a shorter lifespan[/QUOTE]

I'd be more willing to attribute a high suicide rate to the fact that being gay can either get you a fair amount of abuse from other people or take quite an emotional strain on you if you're trying to hide it. Same with drug use rates, it's a coping mechanism.

[lavacano]

[QUOTE=Lil D;37566096]And by a hormone defect you mean a choice someone makes right?[/QUOTE]

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