Binge-drinking students happier and more accepted than others: study - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;37350103]Buying good stuff that doesn't taste like donkey piss is still spending a good amount of money though.[/QUOTE] it's like buying good food

[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;37344426]I don't care what this possibly bullshit study said, I made a choice not to drink and I'm going to stick by it. I'd rather not throw away hundreds of dollars a month on booze.[/QUOTE] I go out every weekend and I spend about $20 (eight beers maybe. If you aren't an alcoholic going through a bottle of bourbon every night, it's not a financial worry at all. [QUOTE=Number-41;37349523]What's the use of all these correlation-without-causation studies? It just happens to be that people who drink more have a more active social life. 1# You could figure that out with reasoning 2# There's no direct causation, so it does not describe a mechanism or anything like that. It's basically a "black box" type of model that explains nothing.[/QUOTE] It describes the notion that college age people may binge drink for the social elevation. It was conducted out of a questionnaire involving 1600 students. They perceive that drinking leads to popularity, and the study is helping to prove that it does in the US college paradigm. [editline]22nd August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=TestECull;37350118]Happiness is suddenly defined as "Being so piss drunk every night you can't even remember a second of it"? God damn the bar has sunk pretty fuckin' low. On top of that, it seems to base things on how socially active people are. This is bullshit in a number of ways. Not everyone enjoys being out in a club or whatnot. I find it to be hell on earth. I never have liked being social, and I'm by far not the only person so inclined. People like me are happier alone or with one or two friends, and they usually don't need to get piss drunk and pass out in a pub bathroom to have fun and be happy.[/QUOTE] So if you were part of the survey and ticked the box saying [x] I DO NOT LIKE DRINKING and [x] I AM HAPPY Then you would help to form the statistic. I'm sure there were people in there who don't like partying. They're the minority in this group, which is why the study found drinkers to be both more socially accepted and happy. The study doesn't give a higher happiness rating because they go clubbing and drink. That's just how the figures ended up.

[QUOTE=Void Skull;37350070]Having my first drinks just last night with some friends, I'd like to say that it's not really enjoyable. For me, at least. Sure, I was with friends, and lots of them, but as the night went on, I didn't even get drunk and my drunk friends became increasingly arrogant and annoying. I ended up hanging out with my sober friends - which was much more enjoyable.[/QUOTE] You're not gonna have as much fun with drunk people if you're almost entirely sober yourself, AND, here's the important part, some people in general aren't fun to be around while drunk. My friends and I are, thankfully, all happy, rowdy drunks - we talk, joke, laugh, sing, have a generally good time. I've seen aggressive drunks before (I'm sure we all have), and I doubt they'd be any fun whatsoever to drink with. [QUOTE=Taepodong-2;37344426]I don't care what this possibly bullshit study said, I made a choice not to drink and I'm going to stick by it. I'd rather not throw away hundreds of dollars a month on booze.[/QUOTE] At a conservative estimate I probably spend around about $200 per month on booze (although a pint is around about $10 over here, and that's spread over... well, a whole month) - $50 dollars or so per week (sometimes more), usually on a Friday night (but sometimes Saturday). The lads and I always have a good night out when we choose to go out, so despite the fact that a lot of money winds up being spent on booze I wouldn't consider it a 'waste'.

[QUOTE=thisispain;37349634]that's rather stupid. having a drink isn't an instant gateway to throwing away "hundreds of dollars a month on booze". it's just something you do because it makes you a bit more soft, not to mention good liquor has a fantastic taste. don't be such a child[/QUOTE] and some people simply do not enjoy drinking a real child is someone who judges another for not liking what they feel is "mature"

you guys sure get defensive about your sobriety

so what about us regular alcoholics who do all our drinking alone?

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;37353047]and some people simply do not enjoy drinking a real child is someone who judges another for not liking what they feel is "mature"[/QUOTE] he just said drinking involves throwing away hundreds of dollars a month on booze! as if that's reasonable, as if that's what people who drink do

[QUOTE=Mabus;37341915]There's a saying over here, don't trust a man who wont have a pint with you.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that's referring to drugged drinks, not whether they're a social drinker or not.

[QUOTE=Forumaster;37340994]So how are their grades?[/QUOTE] You know how much effort I have put in since year 6? 0 You know what my average mark is? A. [editline]22nd August 2012[/editline] rote learning + good memory + logical thinking ftw

[QUOTE=Ownederd;37349203]people who compulsively drink and smoke generally aren't pleasant people[/QUOTE] People who act sanctimoniously about not smoking or drinking aren't particularly pleasant either

I've lost multiple family members (albeit I wasn't close to most of them) to smoking due to lung cancer, and a few from issues regarding alcohol. My worst experience was when my mother was drunk one night and slipped after stumbling on a ledge near the entrance to our house at the time. She fell and landed her wrist, but because of the weight she put on it, the bone in her arm was pushed through her skin and her wrist was broken badly. She never recovered and her hand is permanently disabled with limited movement because she didn't exercise it as much as she should have because of the pain. You cannot imagine the distress of a 9 year old boy waking up for school one day, and finding that his parents weren't home. Then frantically calling them and getting no responses and seeing blood on the outside of your house. We didn't know what happened until hours later, when my dad came home with my mom's purse. It was an awful experience and it really made me have no desire to ever drink. My dad was also an angry drunk and hit me, ended up pushing me into a wall, breaking the wall, pushed me down stairs, and threw me outside of the house and locked me out for roughly a day in just my underwear because I had eaten the last of his Oreos. He also blamed me constantly for ruining his life and said that I was the reason my parents fought, because I was born too early and they would have had time to have more fun and money if I wasn't around. I was a burden and when he yelled at my mom while drunk, nearly every night, my name was almost always brought up, and I would lay and cry into my bed with the pillow over my head just so I didn't have to hear it. While I know these weren't because of alcohol exclusively, I've had no interest in drinking whatsoever, and I have no problems having a good time with friends. I know they drink, smoke, and whatever, and while I hope they never get hurt because of it, I know I'm not going to convince them otherwise. I'm fine sitting down and laughing at their jokes and having a great time drinking my bottle of Dr. Pepper, and then being able to remember it the next day. My friends don't judge me for it, they are courteous not to smoke around me, and don't over me drinks. Things go good.

[QUOTE=Jackald;37353832] How old are you?[/QUOTE] 17 I study Math B, Math C, Physics, Chem, English, and IPT. [editline]22nd August 2012[/editline] thats year 12 in my country/state btw

[QUOTE=McGii;37353980]17 I study Math B, Math C, Physics, Chem, English, and IPT. [editline]22nd August 2012[/editline] thats year 12 in my country/state btw[/QUOTE] Explains that, effort isn't really required for studying until you hit university.

Hasn't it been a silent truth about any social environment? The super-social partiers tend to be more popular and accepted. I enjoy going out and partying every now and again, but I couldn't do it as often as some people I know, it personally wears me down too much. Plus, when I do go out to a party I like it to be sort of a treat for working hard and such.

Breaking news: Recent study says I'm a idiot

[QUOTE=sltungle;37352944]You're not gonna have as much fun with drunk people if you're almost entirely sober yourself, AND, here's the important part, some people in general aren't fun to be around while drunk. My friends and I are, thankfully, all happy, rowdy drunks - we talk, joke, laugh, sing, have a generally good time. I've seen aggressive drunks before (I'm sure we all have), and I doubt they'd be any fun whatsoever to drink with.[/QUOTE] I wasn't entirely sober. Some Mike's and like, 4 cups of 7up and more than half Vodka I don't think makes for a sober man. Though my sober friends all agreed my mind seemed clearer than ever.

Just take a night out now and then, and you won't blow all your cash on partying and your grades wont suffer. No reason to be a social outcast and maybe you'll meet some new friends.

Fun without alcohol is a lie.

Party now, study later [video=youtube;uGlOAzKpJDk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGlOAzKpJDk[/video]

[QUOTE=vexx21322;37340567]I'd rather be at home playing video games.[/QUOTE] Your never gona get laid

To all the people saying this study is bullshit, how? Is it that inconceivable to you that a large number of students may have taken a survey, the researchers got the data, and found an average correlation between drinking habits/number of friends/engagement with social events etc? As a psychology student I do assignments on this shit, it's not complicated.