Man gets 27yr prison sentence for killing baby son because father wanted to play games. - Polidicks

That's no excuse. I have a terrible terrible terrible anger problem, I snap at the smallest things, but all I do is keep it inside unless there is a need for it to be out, you know right from wrong.

some people arent meant to have kids

[QUOTE=Ermac20;32940132]some people arent meant to have kids[/QUOTE] Yeah, I can agree with that. But I don't think we should be calling for anything dumb like the death sentence or anything, and I also think this sentence is the best option (with copious amounts of therapy).

[quote][img]http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8310/tgmug.jpg[/img][/quote] This is the face of dumbfuckness.

30 years in prison is a bit much if you ask me, he didn't exactly intend to kill the child.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laHzxgyw2FE[/media] Exactly this.

[QUOTE=thisispain;32936093]except all the fathers that abandoned their children like mine...[/QUOTE] I feel your pain... My father doesn't even know I'm his, even tho he treated me like I was. Sadly he never even comes to us anymore, he left when I was 3, but I never learned to live with someone else then my mommy.

Yes. Let's ruin the life of an already establish individual because an infant died. This makes so much sense. Let's put him in prison for 30 years where he can sit and do nothing. Sounds like such a good idea to me. Ugh.

[QUOTE=Jack_Thompson;32936047]My dad was 18 when I was born, and within a year he was working two jobs, one full-time and the other part-time. Perhaps a good portion of teenage fathers aren't mature enough, but there's also a good portion that are.[/QUOTE] Same, my dad married my mum who already had two girls (My sisters) and he was just getting out of the Army (Was in the Corps. too), started going to school for his EMT basic and worked three jobs, all while trying to take care of all of us. Mind you he was in his early 20's but still, most are still attending universities at this age.

[QUOTE=Corewarp3;32942073]Yes. Let's ruin the life of an already establish individual because an infant died. This makes so much sense. Let's put him in prison for 30 years where he can sit and do nothing. Sounds like such a good idea to me. Ugh.[/QUOTE] He needs some punishment, just not 30 years of it, I'd say 5 at most with extensive counselling

[QUOTE=Corewarp3;32942073]Yes. Let's ruin the life of an already establish individual because an infant died. This makes so much sense. Let's put him in prison for 30 years where he can sit and do nothing. Sounds like such a good idea to me. Ugh.[/QUOTE] Yeah, let's just let all the "established individuals" who killed their kids for stupid reasons go, what could go wrong?

What drives a person to do this to their own child, I literally can't understand that frame of mind.

[QUOTE=- Livewire -;32942495]What drives a person to do this to their own child, I literally can't understand that frame of mind.[/QUOTE] A really bad team in CoD and severe mental health issues, apparently.

I can't really sympathize but.. I don't know how to put it. Not everyone who is arrested for charges like these are bad people. There have been countless Mothers and Fathers whom have killed their children by accident in fits of rage or desperation. If I had a dollar for every time a Mother drowned their child or a Father shook their child I'd be able to pay off the National Debt. It's tragic, but having a child is extremely stressful. 24 hours of the day, every single day you're devoted to keeping that child happy and alive. Everything takes a back seat aside from maybe work. So you go to work for 8-hours or more, come home tired and irritated. You haven't had a minute to yourself to think, much less entertain yourself. Your wife yells at you because she was with the kid all day and than you have to console a crying child for the next three hours. You can't ask it what it wants, it can't tell you. It's a viscous cycle. Finally he's asleep. FINALLY and now maybe you can have five minutes to yourself. To nap. To work or watch some TV. Than he starts crying again and you SNAP. It doesn't mean you're a bad parent, just that it was too much for you I guess. I think all Mothers have gone through that time where they call their own Mothers up and go "I don't know what to do, I have all these horrible thoughts I can't take it anymore" It's really hard to have a baby.

[QUOTE=Cone;32942746]A really bad team in CoD and severe mental health issues, apparently.[/QUOTE] I had a suspision it was cod. Video games don't kill people, CoD kills people.

Wouldn't this be something more like manslaughter? considering it was accident and he didn't mean to kill the baby?

[QUOTE=J!NX;32941880][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laHzxgyw2FE[/media] Exactly this.[/QUOTE] AHAHAHAHA!!! Ron White is great, and he is right.....

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;32942473]Yeah, let's just let all the "established individuals" who killed their kids for stupid reasons go, what could go wrong?[/QUOTE] You wouldn't just let them go, obviously. Rehabilitation, lots of it. I'm not in any way saying that shaking your son so hard he dies from brain damage isn't serious, because it is. But 27 years is extremely harsh, not just for the guy, but for society aswell - now he's gonna spend a third of his life being a financial burden without any possibility to contribute. And he will most likely have to depend on welfare when he eventually get out.

[QUOTE=demoguy08;32946162]You wouldn't just let them go, obviously. Rehabilitation, lots of it. I'm not in any way saying that shaking your son so hard he dies from brain damage isn't serious, because it is. But 27 years is extremely harsh, not just for the guy, but for society aswell - now he's gonna spend a third of his life being a financial burden without any possibility to contribute. And he will most likely have to depend on welfare when he eventually gets out.[/QUOTE] well maybe he'll get out early for good behavior.

[QUOTE=demoguy08;32946162]You wouldn't just let them go, obviously. Rehabilitation, lots of it. I'm not in any way saying that shaking your son so hard he dies from brain damage isn't serious, because it is. But 27 years is extremely harsh, not just for the guy, but for society aswell - now he's gonna spend a third of his life being a financial burden without any possibility to contribute. And he will most likely have to depend on welfare when he eventually get out.[/QUOTE] I don't really see the point in rehabilitating him, he's not really a danger to society, however you can't just let people get away with killing a baby.

30 years is a joke. I mean what's next, 15 years for slapping your kid ? Seriously giving so much just discredits completely the entire point of the system that is doing the time according to the crime. This guy obviously is a dumb fuck with probably a few mental issues, he needs five years at ultimate maximum and a lot of psychiatric following, locking him up for pretty much the rest of his life is so irresponsible it hurts just thinking about it - if he ever gets out of prison, he will be a 50 year-old empty shell who spent his life in Prison for being a moron. The guy needs a punishment, but what he needs the most is some help, he is obviously not well in his head if he kills his kid over a video game.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32946448]I don't really see the point in rehabilitating him, he's not really a danger to society, however you can't just let people get away with killing a baby.[/QUOTE] Punishing someone for something they did spur-of-the-moment never really resonated with me. I don't understand the purpose it serves. I understand wanting to punish someone who actually planned on doing something they knew was wrong, and weighed their options, and did wrong anyway, but how does only punishing this guy help anyone? Obviously he has anger problems and needs to be away from society but the focus should be on fixing that anger problem "You sit in this cell and think about what you did!" isn't productive in any way

[QUOTE=Jack_Thompson;32936047]My dad was 18 when I was born, and within a year he was working two jobs, one full-time and the other part-time. Perhaps a good portion of teenage fathers aren't mature enough, but there's also a good portion that are.[/QUOTE] aww <3

THIS JUST IN! DEVIL SEX VIDEO GAMES TOLD YOUNG FATHER TO STRANGLE BABY! MORE AT 11!

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32946920]Punishing someone for something they did spur-of-the-moment never really resonated with me. I don't understand the purpose it serves. I understand wanting to punish someone who actually planned on doing something they knew was wrong, and weighed their options, and did wrong anyway, but how does only punishing this guy help anyone? Obviously he has anger problems and needs to be away from society but the focus should be on fixing that anger problem "You sit in this cell and think about what you did!" isn't productive in any way[/QUOTE] He should get counselling while hes in there and probably even once hes left, however you do need a certain amount of deterrent otherwise people will try and flaunt the lack of punishment to get a free kill.

I find it sad that he has to spend half of his life in prison, yes he killed a child, but he's also 18 and an idiot, things he can't control.

[QUOTE=mookman22;32947137]I find it sad that he has to spend half of his life in prison, yes he killed a child, but he's also 18 and an idiot, things he can't control.[/QUOTE]Plus it was an accident

What I also find horrible about it is that when the Father knew he killed his infant son in a spur of the moment act of rage and tried to resuscitate his infant, imagine the pain he's going through at that moment that he's killed his own son and he's trying terribly to revive him but failing :smith:. Although I do not condone the act one must know that taking care of an infant is the worst part of parenthood, you have a child that will cry in the middle of the night and make you lose sleep and it cannot tell you what it wants.

^ And make you suck at video games. I'm sorry but there is no excuse for this. I have a few friends around this age with infant children and they'd never dream of doing something remotely like this. regardless of how repentant he is or how spur of the moment it was, this isn't something which can be brushed under the carpet with a simple admission of guilt. A child died, after suffering horribly at the hands of the man who should have been the one protecting it from the bad elements of this world. There's no justification for that

"According to local media, Amanda Voss, the baby’s mother, explained to police that she had left Johnston and his son at home alone for less than ten minutes as she went to buy groceries." This bothers me more than any of it. It took only that long for the guy to lose it over the kid's crying.