Religion is not a choice but being gay is, GOP leader’s spokesman says - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Sasupoika;17929967] Also, the Christianity is the only religion? [/QUOTE] First one that came to mind [IMG]http://missanthropy.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/buddy_christ.jpg[/IMG] Dont you love him? I dont, im atheist

[QUOTE=Sasupoika;17929967]Dingdong, World War I and II! Also, the Christianity is the only religion? Ribman, man who uses his rib-powers to fight crime![/QUOTE] If you really want to get technical, Hitler's Racism and political ideas were rooted from his occultism. The two great wars didn't kill as many people as religion has in the last thousands of years.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;17930002]Is there a straight gene? Then what, you magically become gay after birth? I'll skip a step and call you an idiot. You are born gay.[/QUOTE] I never said there was a straight gene. I think personal experiences may lead you to be more attracted to the same sex rather than the opposite one. I'm not fucking forcing you to believe that. You need to calm down, sir. Prove to me that you are born gay with scientific fact and maybe I will believe your claim that I am an idiot. edit: Or you can man up and admit that you don't know any more than the next person.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;17930024]If you really want to get technical, Hitler's Racism and political ideas were rooted from his occultism. The two great wars didn't kill as many people as religion has in the last thousands of years.[/QUOTE] Yes, but remember that there are more wars than world wars. Civil wars, Vietnam War, Korean War etc.. Not to mention that those wars ( WWI, WWII, Finland's civil war ( for example ), Vietnam war and Korean war ) happened in last hundred years. Also, at the time religion-wars were fought, there were much more fever people. And no, Hitler was racistic and slightly occultistic, but you cannot say that World War II was a religious war. It was mainly started because Germany lost first World War and they wanted to go back to their full glory. They basically ignored all the restrictions that other countries had put on them. It was not really religious cause since Hitler mainly blamed Jews because they were rumoured to be reason why Germany lost the war in the first place.

[QUOTE=Pascall;17930037]I never said there was a straight gene. I think personal experiences may lead you to be more attracted to the same sex rather than the opposite one. I'm not fucking forcing you to believe that. You need to calm down, sir. Prove to me that you are born gay with scientific fact and maybe I will believe your claim that I am an idiot. edit: Or you can man up and admit that you don't know any more than the next person.[/QUOTE] If there is no straight gene, why would there be a gay gene? So implying the only way it could be natural is if there was a gay gene is retarded. like you you see homosexuality in nature, such as cats, dogs, mallard ducks, apes, ect. How the hell does personal experiences make you gay? Explain this to me. And by the way, slappy: the APA, NASW, AMA, APAA, and AAP all produced reports stating homosexuality is a natural occurring phenomena. [url]http://allpsych.com/journal/homosexuality.html[/url] [url]http://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/[/url] [url]http://www.tim-taylor.com/papers/twin_studies/studies.html[/url] Guess I got the go ahead: you're an idiot.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;17930332]If there is no straight gene, why would there be a gay gene? So implying the only way it could be natural is if there was a gay gene is retarded. like you you see homosexuality in nature, such as cats, dogs, mallard ducks, apes, ect. How the hell does personal experiences make you gay? Explain this to me. And by the way, slappy: the APA, NASW, and AAP all produced reports stating homosexuality is a natural occurring phenomena. [url]http://allpsych.com/journal/homosexuality.html[/url] [url]http://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/[/url] [url]http://www.tim-taylor.com/papers/twin_studies/studies.html[/url] Guess I got the go ahead: you're an idiot.[/QUOTE] Dogs cannot be gay. If you see a male dog humping one of the same sex, it is a dominance issue. I've never ever seen dogs that are actually classified as gay. The reason I say personal experience is because I know plenty of gay men who were not gay in their childhood. They had crushes on girls, played with little boy stuff, and did everything that other little boys did. One of my friends in particular used to be a pretty big player who managed to get into bed with plenty of girls. He was a horny mother fucker who loved women, and you could quite obviously tell that it was no 'cover up' that some gay men use. No, he was pretty damn straight. But something happened with one girl (I think it was that she traumatized him during sex because she nearly forced him to impregnate her) and now he's no longer attracted to women. Now he is gay and has confirmed this to me by having several boyfriends, and at one point when he and one of his boyfriends came over to my house when I had a party one night, one of my other friends walked in on them in the bedroom. You can pretty much imagine what they were doing. There's no doubt that he is fully homosexual now. [b]tl;dr: Guy friend was straight, was traumatized by some chick during sex when she tried to get him to be her baby daddy, now he's gay.[/b] I'm not saying that EVERY case is personal experience. And if you're so concerned with me forcing what I think on you, maybe you should get off the internet.

Were you born a moron? I think you were. Do you wear an orange helmet? [editline]06:43PM[/editline] I think you do

[QUOTE=Trotsky;17930521]Were you born a moron? I think you were. Do you wear an orange helmet? [editline]06:43PM[/editline] I think you do[/QUOTE] Honestly, if I'm such an idiot, then don't you have better things to do than argue with a person like me? :v: Go read a book.

[QUOTE=Pascall;17930546]Honestly, if I'm such an idiot, then don't you have better things to do than argue with a person like me? :v: Go read a book.[/QUOTE] no, seriously, are you mentally retarded?

[QUOTE=Trotsky;17930572]no, seriously, are you mentally retarded?[/QUOTE] No. I can dress myself and everything. :v:

[QUOTE=Pascall;17930640]No. I can dress myself and everything. :v:[/QUOTE] oh, then you're just autistic. dawgs cant b ghey! :downs:

[QUOTE=Trotsky;17930714]oh, then you're just autistic. dawgs cant b ghey! :downs:[/QUOTE] He's obviously never heard of furries.

[QUOTE=DrMortician;17930746]He's obviously never heard of furries.[/QUOTE] She. Also, if dogs can be gay, I've never seen a gay dog in the five years that I've been working with them. I guess I got all the normal ones.

[QUOTE=Pascall;17930759]She. Also, if dogs can be gay, I've never seen a gay dog in the five years that I've been working with them. I guess I got all the normal ones.[/QUOTE] he/she? I've only knew one person that is gay. In the 18 years I've been dealing with people. does that mean they're no gay people? You have some pretty terrible logic. Stop posting, you only make yourself seem more stupid.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;17930802]he/she? I've only knew one person that is gay. In the 18 years I've been dealing with people. does that mean they're no gay people? You have some pretty terrible logic. Stop posting, you only make yourself seem more stupid.[/QUOTE] no, because obviously, you've seen one gay person which reinforces your belief that they exist. That's not a very good comparison. Please educate me on the behaviors of a homosexual canine. I seriously would like to know.

[QUOTE=Pascall;17930815]no, because obviously, you've seen one gay person which reinforces your belief that they exist. That's not a very good comparison. Please educate me on the behaviors of a homosexual canine. I seriously would like to know.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RlTAyNI8WE[/media] I'd suspect reading may be hard for you, so here's a video.

but according to you, he was not gay. So using your retarded logic, it's a good comparison. uh, sex with another male dog really? you couldn't figure that out yourself? [editline]07:15PM[/editline] [QUOTE=DrMortician;17930854][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RlTAyNI8WE[/media] I'd suspect reading may be hard for you, so here's a video.[/QUOTE] I like he/she tells me to read a book. I loled.

[QUOTE=DrMortician;17930854][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RlTAyNI8WE[/media] I'd suspect reading may be hard for you, so here's a video.[/QUOTE] What does my reading level have anything to do with anything? That's wild animals, I believe. I watched a little bit of it. I'm just curious as to what behavior a homosexual domestic dog would exhibit other than mounting another dog of the same sex, which is dominant behavior, and does not lead to intercourse. At least, in all the times I've seen it, which is quite a lot having dealt with problematic behavior in pets for a few years. Domesticated animals have different practices than wild ones, obviously. They all have the basic instincts, but not all exhibit behavior that their wild counterparts do. So if you can find me a video about canines specifically, then maybe I'll look into that a little more. edit: Can you find me proof of a male dog that can effectively penetrate another male dog without having extreme difficulty? editedit: Gonna be honest here and say at this point, I've stopped trying to argue with you and am honestly trying to figure out exactly what you're claiming here.

[QUOTE=Pascall;17930915]What does my reading level have anything to do with anything? That's wild animals, I believe. I watched a little bit of it. I'm just curious as to what behavior a homosexual domestic dog would exhibit other than mounting another dog of the same sex, which is dominant behavior, and does not lead to intercourse. At least, in all the times I've seen it, which is quite a lot having dealt with problematic behavior in pets for a few years. Domesticated animals have different practices than wild ones, obviously. They all have the basic instincts, but not all exhibit behavior that their wild counterparts do. So if you can find me a video about canines specifically, then maybe I'll look into that a little more.[/QUOTE] The fact you think fucking a male dog in the ass is to show dominance makes me question whether or not you even know what a dog is. this is a dog [img]http://static.squidoo.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens1441580module8530159photo_Dog_Medicine_Side_Effects5.jpg1204589384[/img] so is this [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx6kT2oojCE[/media] oh that's right, the dog is faking it. [editline]07:22PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Pascall;17930915] edit: Can you find me proof of a male dog that can effectively penetrate another male dog without having extreme difficulty? editedit: Gonna be honest here and say at this point, I've stopped trying to argue with you and am honestly trying to figure out exactly what you're claiming here.[/QUOTE] I'm not exactly in the mood to look for dog porn. And penetration is not the only trait of homosexuality you tool holy shit... I can understand if we went off on an epic tangent that you would get lost... but we're still on the same topic. wow, you're a complete moron.

I'm going to go ahead and pretend you didn't just try and disprove something that has been known about canine behavior for decades. Dogs don't mount others of the same sex because they want to fuck it. Read any legitimate information source on canine behavior and it will tell you the same thing I just did. A male dog will mount another male dog to show that it is dominant. Not because it want to give it a good ass fucking. Anyways, I'm done with this thread. I've got a midterm to study for and I'm doing a good job of procrastinating. Good day to you.

[QUOTE=Pascall;17931233]I'm going to go ahead and pretend you didn't just try and disprove something that has been known about canine behavior for decades. Dogs don't mount others of the same sex because they want to fuck it. Read any legitimate information source on canine behavior and it will tell you the same thing I just did. A male dog will mount another male dog to show that it is dominant. Not because it want to give it a good ass fucking. Anyways, I'm done with this thread. I've got a midterm to study for and I'm doing a good job of procrastinating. Good day to you.[/QUOTE] look at me look at me i ignore nature. Yes, go study for your test, hopefully it's not a science test. [editline]07:44PM[/editline] also, source that shit.

[url]http://ezinearticles.com/?Dog-Dominance-Behavior---Dog-Humping-and-Dog-Mounting-Problems&id=339664[/url] Source just for you. Another source: [url]http://www.practical-pet-care.com/archive.php?2004090702543513[/url] Also, it's a communications test. :saddowns: edit: Got a 95 wut wut. Kbye.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;17845952]Can anyone in USA become a politician? Last time someone did a great mistake in Sweden she got fired.[/QUOTE] Yeah, in Britain and America they're a lot more relaxed. Thats why our politics is so fucked up.

[QUOTE=Pascall;17931745][url]http://ezinearticles.com/?Dog-Dominance-Behavior---Dog-Humping-and-Dog-Mounting-Problems&id=339664[/url] Source just for you. Another source: [url]http://www.practical-pet-care.com/archive.php?2004090702543513[/url] Also, it's a communications test. :saddowns: edit: Got a 95 wut wut. Kbye.[/QUOTE] those aren't scientific articles they're answer columns [editline]04:09PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Pascall;17930433] The reason I say personal experience is because I know plenty of gay men who were not gay in their childhood.[/QUOTE] I don't care what your personal experience says. The fact of the matter is: every reputable psychological association in America disagrees with you. I'm more inclined to believe what thousands of people with degrees say than the "personal experience" of some internet forums user.

[QUOTE=Pascall;17931745][url]http://ezinearticles.com/?Dog-Dominance-Behavior---Dog-Humping-and-Dog-Mounting-Problems&id=339664[/url] Source just for you. Another source: [url]http://www.practical-pet-care.com/archive.php?2004090702543513[/url] Also, it's a communications test. :saddowns: edit: Got a 95 wut wut. Kbye.[/QUOTE] "Your dog has extremely bad manners is what's going on." Are you fucking serious? these are not scientific articles.

Gays are born with SOME feminine features that contribute to later sexuality, or are at least shown to aid in it. It's kind of something you're born with, but I wouldn't try using that whole "I was born gay" on anyone, not that I am, just saying. Christianity however is the pollution of the mind and can be a choice at times, especially when one is in total denial of things thousands of scientists have tested, retested and tested again and again and has been proven to be a [I]FACT[/I] and yet you [I]STILL[/I] say "its just a theory and theories never seem to turn true". Can you control strong feelings for someone else? No, you can deny it, however. This is why in my head, gay marriage out weighs rioting Christians who don't want gays to marry. But really, who gives a fuck if two, HELL, maybe even eleven guys butt fucked each other? Is it really that big of a deal? Is your god going to show no mercy on you because your gay neighbors decided to go all out on each other? O.K, Maybe you'd get a little pissed at the noise, but what difference would it make? [quote]"All violent crimes should be prosecuted vigorously, no matter what the circumstance," Boehner said during debate on the issue. "The Democrats' 'thought crimes' legislation, however, places a higher value on some lives than others. Republicans believe that all lives are created equal, and should be defended with equal vigilance."[/quote] We all know democrat is just another word for commie, amirite?

[QUOTE=Pascall;17931745][url]http://ezinearticles.com/?Dog-Dominance-Behavior---Dog-Humping-and-Dog-Mounting-Problems&id=339664[/url] Source just for you. Another source: [url]http://www.practical-pet-care.com/archive.php?2004090702543513[/url] Also, it's a communications test. :saddowns: edit: Got a 95 wut wut. Kbye.[/QUOTE] I just spit out my drink. Fucking A do you even read what you post?

[QUOTE=Seb McMeb;17935495]Gays are born with SOME feminine features that contribute to later sexuality, or are at least shown to aid in it.[/QUOTE] no, not really I mean, it's great that you understand that it's not a choice and all, but ^this^ isn't really true

Oh dogs aren't gay, they just have poor manners :saddowns:

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;17935785]no, not really I mean, it's great that you understand that it's not a choice and all, but ^this^ isn't really true[/QUOTE] This is why you should never try pulling the "I was born like this" card unless it's something like like being black, or a dolphin. [editline]11:32PM[/editline] Or a black dolphin