Religion is not a choice but being gay is, GOP leader’s spokesman says - Polidicks

[QUOTE=radioactive;17845858]If I knew that, I would be a millionaire.[/QUOTE] Hormones....

[QUOTE=DrMortician;17845851] It isn't against the law to speak, or express your self, while it is against the law to beat the shit out of someone or kill them.[/QUOTE] Unless you're in China where you swap those around.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;17845816]Being gay is decided by hormones. Therefor you have no choice in it... Except for taking daily hormone regiments....[/QUOTE] I think you have gay and transgender confused.

[QUOTE=TH89;17845795]If you think being gay is a choice I'm assuming you're saying you're attracted to both men and women, and could go either way if you didn't know any better?[/QUOTE] It stands to reason, right? Surely a straight person would think "hmm, I probably couldn't just start being gay if I wanted to, because I am not attracted to men" Whereas a principled bisexual person would be thinking "man, that guy looks hot! But I've made my choice! Gay people are morally weak!"

[QUOTE=DrMortician;17845869]I think you have gay and transgender confused.[/QUOTE] Hormonal imbalance doesn't necessarily mean becoming a transsexual.

gays aren't people edit: so killing them can't be a hate crime

[QUOTE=Kyle902;17845879]Hormonal imbalance doesn't necessarily mean becoming a transsexual.[/QUOTE] IIRC, there was a study showing the that gays reacted to hormones more like straights of the opposite gender than straights of the same gender.

[QUOTE=radioactive;17845804]It pisses me off when people think they can stop other people from doing what they want to do. *COUGH* FACIST *COUGH*[/QUOTE] Using this logic I should be able to yell fa[b]s[/b]cist/racist remarks for whole day, and you couldn't stop me because I can do what I want. You kinda broke your own logic.

[QUOTE=TH89;17845874]It stands to reason, right? Surely a straight person would think "hmm, I probably couldn't just start being gay if I wanted to, because I am not attracted to men" Whereas a principled bisexual person would be thinking "man, that guy looks hot! But I've made my choice!"[/QUOTE] If you offer a straight person a million dollars to have gay sex, does that mean they just turned bisexual if they accept the offer?

Can anyone in USA become a politician? Last time someone did a great mistake in Sweden she got fired.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;17845941]Using this logic I should be able to yell fa[b]s[/b]cist/racist remarks for whole day, and you couldn't stop me because I can do what I want. You kinda broke your own logic.[/QUOTE] No, because you're hindering other's when you are shouting about how bad they are, which isn't part of Freedom of Speech. :smug:

[QUOTE=DrMortician;17845851]That's not really a valid argument to say those people are earning themselves a beatin'. It isn't against the law to speak, or express your self, while it is against the law to beat the shit out of someone or kill them.[/QUOTE] I have never meant to beat anybody who present's himself gay, however, I will no way hesitate to say what I think about them.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;17845941]Using this logic I should be able to yell fa[b]s[/b]cist/racist remarks for whole day, and you couldn't stop me because I can do what I want. You kinda broke your own logic.[/QUOTE] Uh, you can, and if someone stops you they'll be prosecuted under the law. If you get shot before anyone can help you, they'll still be prosecuted under the law but you'll still be dead. [editline]02:15PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Awesomecaek;17845974]I have never meant to beat anybody who present's himself gay, however, I will no way hesitate to say what I think about them.[/QUOTE] Never meant? So you've beaten someone who's gay unintentionally before?

[QUOTE=Swebonny;17845952]Can anyone in USA become a politician? Last time someone did a great mistake in Sweden she got fired.[/QUOTE] Yeah, just need money.

[QUOTE=DrMortician;17845975]Uh, you can, and if someone stops you they'll be prosecuted under the law. If you get shot before anyone can help you, they'll still be prosecuted under the law but you'll still be dead.[/QUOTE] I don't talk about getting shot on place, but you will surely get arrested and punished. Freedom of speech is a lie.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;17845952]Can anyone in USA become a politician? Last time someone did a great mistake in Sweden she got fired.[/QUOTE] Easy peasy lemon squeezy [img]http://missionenvironment.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/barack-obama1.jpg[/img]

The GOP leader is Wrong, Both are a choice. Why else do we keep hearing about people switching in both categories?

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;17846012]I don't talk about getting shot on place, but you will surely get arrested and punished. Freedom of speech is a lie.[/QUOTE] G20 protests tend to cause havok, so the Police do have to do things.

[QUOTE=DrMortician;17845975] Never meant? So you've beaten someone who's gay unintentionally before?[/QUOTE] I don't know if I formulated it wrong, but you know what I wanted to say. Violent actions are something totally different than negative talk.

[QUOTE=DrMortician;17845949]If you offer a straight person a million dollars to have gay sex, does that mean they just turned bisexual if they accept the offer?[/QUOTE] Are you saying gay people have been bribed?

I beleive this person needs to kill himself in a particularly creative manner.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;17846057]I don't know if I formulated it wrong, but you know what I wanted to say. Violent actions are something totally different than negative talk.[/QUOTE] Ok, let me give an example. You are a fat nerd that never gets out of his house and will never lose his virginity. I'm technically not allowed to say that to you because that is hindering the right to Freedom of Speech, it upsets you. If I just said this out of an example, I would get a 7 day ban for flaming. This is keeping law and order on a small scale. In the Real world, they arrest people that say bad things to others. And Violent actions are even worse.

You can't compare the human psyche to nature's "laws".

[QUOTE=TH89;17846071]Are you saying gay people have been bribed?[/QUOTE] No, he is saying that you have always choice no matter which way you are oriented. If nothing less, the chance to act passively to both sides.

[QUOTE=TH89;17846071]Are you saying gay people have been bribed?[/QUOTE] Yes that's it. I couldn't remember the word for it.

:bang: Who the fuck cares? Why do people loose sleep on people being gay? Is there something wrong with being gay or something? And why do some militant religious fucknuts need to go be fucking retarded to give a bad name to the rest of the generally not caring religious congregation? Most religious people I personally know don't give a fuck about gay people period.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;17846105]No, he is saying that you have always choice no matter which way you are oriented.[/QUOTE] But, as a straight person who is not attracted to men (and for the purposes of this discussion has NOT been offered a million dollars), why on earth would I decide to go out and start trying to have sex with them?

[QUOTE=radioactive;17846101]Ok, let me give an example. You are a fat nerd that never gets out of his house and will never lose his virginity. I'm technically not allowed to say that to you because that is hindering the right to Freedom of Speech, it upsets you. If I just said this out of an example, I would get a 7 day ban for flaming. This is keeping law and order on a small scale. In the Real world, they arrest people that say bad things to others. And Violent actions are even worse.[/QUOTE] you are a Fat Nerd that Never gets out of your House and will never lose your Virginity while constantly making Really bad Posts for Weeks and Weeks

[QUOTE=TH89;17846132]But, as a straight person who is not attracted to men (and for the purposes of this discussion has NOT been offered a million dollars), why on earth would I decide to go out and start trying to have sex with them?[/QUOTE] Because alcohol makes everyone look better.

and to all the nature bullshit, nature doesnt have laws. if it happens, it is of nature. lolfaunts