Religion is not a choice but being gay is, GOP leader’s spokesman says - Polidicks

I read a study somewhere that homosexuality, not only among humans, strengthens the survivabilty for the species. And if humans aren't the only ones performing this, then it sure as hell is natural. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior]List of animals displaying homosexual behavior[/url] lol goddamnit th89

[QUOTE=iamgnome;17847856]how can you be so hellbent to prove that its natural. you can't inherit a trait that makes you attracted to men, it's not genetics.[/QUOTE] just because it's not an inheritable gene does not mean that it's a choice, and there is no proof that there isn't a gene, either. Not all genes follow typical inheritance patterns. [QUOTE=iamgnome;17847856]if it was then damn, why doesn't the US focus its arms money in making a gay bomb that halts the birth-rate of iran.[/QUOTE] first off, you can't really alter dna with a bomb, and even then, they did try: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb[/url]

[QUOTE=TH89;17847834]Uh yes you do [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals[/url][/QUOTE] "The presence of same-sex sexual behavior was not 'officially' observed on a large scale until recent times, possibly due to observer bias caused by social attitudes to same-sex sexual behavior" Social attitudes.

[QUOTE=KestasLT;17847952]"The presence of same-sex sexual behavior was not 'officially' observed on a large scale until recent times, possibly due to observer bias caused by social attitudes to same-sex sexual behavior" Social attitudes.[/QUOTE] Your point being?

[QUOTE=iamgnome;17847856] you can't inherit a trait that makes you attracted to men, it's not genetics.[/QUOTE] Not to rage (you're on the nice people side) but a) Behavioural traits generally have a polygenetic origin; it's the same for, say, mathematical ability; there's no maths gene but a series of genes can work together to cause mathematical aptitude. a)It has been theorised that the "gay genes" has a reproductive bonus for the opposite gender, evening it out - daughters of gay guys are often noted to be incredibly fertile. I can't find the source, so feel free not to believe me, but yeah.

[QUOTE=KestasLT;17847952]"The presence of same-sex sexual behavior was not 'officially' observed on a large scale until recent times, possibly due to observer bias caused by social attitudes to same-sex sexual behavior" Social attitudes.[/QUOTE] They're talking about social attitudes like yours. i.e. people ignoring gay animals because HOMO SEX IS UNNATURAL

[QUOTE=KestasLT;17847901]Well, they dissagree to that since there would be less human disscrimination (equal rights an all)[/QUOTE] no, they disagree because that's what they actually believe. [QUOTE=KestasLT;17847901]also, source on the second statement.[/QUOTE] th89 already posted it

[QUOTE=DrMortician;17846695]So you're only okay with being persecuted as long as you can murder the people who disagree with you? So you're saying any time a gay person is persecuted for being openly gay, they should have the right to kill those persecuting them? Wow what? Excuse me? What the fuck have you been smoking?[/QUOTE] 1. My post obviously was a joke, the same way as your did. 2. When the some people get attacked by other people because of their belief/orientation, they have right to defend themselves, that's obvious, however only using adequate means. If you threatened to kill me me, I have the right to defend myself with fatal force.

[QUOTE=KestasLT;17847952]"The presence of same-sex sexual behavior was not 'officially' observed on a large scale until recent times, possibly due to observer bias caused by social attitudes to same-sex sexual behavior" Social attitudes.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but humans show observational biases naturally. Take the confirmation bias! Clearly cold analytical non subjective thinking is unnatural and should be avoided at all costs. :downs:

I don't know if any of you can argue with a qualified doctor that studied all over the world. Man if i would get her here in facepunch, you would lose this argument. Too bad she's in Turkey right now.

[QUOTE=KestasLT;17847710]Well, my mother is a doctor, and she says that being gay isn't natural. Face it, you don't see animals of the same gender having sex togheter.[/QUOTE] Humans are animals, your argument is fucking stupid.

alright I'm going to really have to read up on this because my mind has been fucked thanks you gays :( I mean guys

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;17848014]1. My post obviously was a joke, the same way as your did. 2. When the gay people get attacked by other people because of their sexual orientation, they have right to defend themselves, that's obvious.[/QUOTE] they shouldn't have to defend themselves you incorrigible blight

[QUOTE=sp00ks;17848048]Humans are animals, your argument is fucking stupid.[/QUOTE] Where did i post that humans aren't animals?

[QUOTE=sp00ks;17848048]Humans are animals, your argument is fucking stupid.[/QUOTE] No! We're servants of God! Be fruitful and multiply! No homos!

[QUOTE=KestasLT;17848023]I don't know if any of you can argue with a qualified doctor that studied all over the world. Man if i would get her here in facepunch, you would lose this argument. Too bad she's in Turkey right now.[/QUOTE] I guess the goats having gay sex also chose to be homosexuals then?

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;17847936]first off, you can't really alter dna with a bomb, and even then, they did try: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb[/url][/QUOTE] I think the idea was they'd lace the area with female pheromones and aphrodisiacs. The irony inherent in this is that the soldiers who actually were gay would be the only ones not getting freaky with each other (assuming the bomb worked, which I don't think it would). Otherwise, pass me some pheromones and an aphrodisiac spray and let me lose on this guy I know.

[QUOTE=KestasLT;17848070]Where did i post that humans aren't animals?[/QUOTE] [quote=KestasLT]Face it, you don't see animals of the same gender having sex togheter.[/quote] Right here.

[QUOTE=TH89;17845094] Hehehehh Boehner [img]http://estrip.org/elmwood/users/paul/images/0706/whatBoner4611.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] You realize his name is pronounced like "Bayner," right?

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;17847936] first off, you can't really alter dna with a bomb, and even then, they did try: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb[/url][/QUOTE] That is absolutely amazing, I'm going to have to save that link.

[QUOTE=sp00ks;17848099]I guess the goats having gay sex also chose to be homosexuals then?[/QUOTE] Like i said, i will leave the arguments to her.

[QUOTE=sp00ks;17848048]Humans are animals, your argument is fucking stupid.[/QUOTE] Yea I'm a wolf trapped in a man's body, give me a college scholarship!

[QUOTE=TailsPrower;17846915]How in the world do you find giant protrusions on the chest sexually arousing? Boobs look gross. You may rainbow me now.[/QUOTE] Click clack, How do you humansss find sssuch dissssgustingly similar creaturessss attractive, click? All were meant to mate only with one hive mind! Disssssgusssting apessss. Click.

[QUOTE=KestasLT;17848023]I don't know if any of you can argue with a qualified doctor that studied all over the world. Man if i would get her here in facepunch, you would lose this argument. Too bad she's in Turkey right now.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, I'm really going to trust a doctor (what's her specialisation?) over loads of behavioural psychologists. Add to the fact she's in Turkey - hm...they really love the gays over there, don't they?

[QUOTE=KestasLT;17848139]Like i said, i will leave the arguments to her.[/QUOTE] So when scientists have seen other animals having gay sex, they're simply wrong because your mother says so?

[QUOTE=KestasLT;17848139]Like i said, i will leave the arguments to her.[/QUOTE] who is "her"? you mean your mom, because your mom isn't a psychologist or a biologist, she's a doctor. She's not really qualified to speak on the subject as a professional

[QUOTE=Splurgy;17848166]Oh yeah, I'm really going to trust a doctor (what's her specialisation?) over loads of behavioural psychologists. they?[/QUOTE]She has multi-speculation and is now currently the head of a hospital [quote]Add to the fact she's in Turkey - hm...they really love the gays over there, don't they? [/quote] what

[QUOTE=KestasLT;17848023]I don't know if any of you can argue with a qualified doctor that studied all over the world. Man if i would get her here in facepunch, you would lose this argument. Too bad she's in Turkey right now.[/QUOTE] Wow, a doctor from the religion fuckstupidity capital of the world. How scary.

[QUOTE=KestasLT;17848139]Like i said, i will leave the arguments to her.[/QUOTE] Except you're not, because an acclaimed doctor is unlikely to post on a forum to further her son's arguments. Although then again, she does sound kind of stupid. What country are you in? I don't think a medical professional should really have views that contradict the official line of most medical boards.

[QUOTE=KestasLT;17848139]Like i said, i will leave the arguments to her.[/QUOTE] "UUUUuggughghgh... Must... not think.... must.... delay response.... for distant hope!"