Is Your Car Being Tracked by a License-Plate Scanner? - Polidicks

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[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37235990]What I think people are most afraid of is that they could get in trouble because they're spotted near a crime scene while they have nothing to do with it.[/QUOTE] As a witness you dont have to do anything. You dont have to be apart of the investigation

[QUOTE=areolop;37236220]As a witness you dont have to do anything. You dont have to be apart of the investigation[/QUOTE] I'm talking about being a suspect solely because you can be placed at the location at the time of the crime.

They have these in Indiana and Illinois. Cops always drive through parking lots and you'll see them from time to time picking up stolen vehicles.

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37236314]I'm talking about being a suspect solely because you can be placed at the location at the time of the crime.[/QUOTE] So? Just because you're a suspect doesn't mean you'll be wrongfully jailed. As soon as they look at the evidence and see you had nothing to do with the crime and was just there at the wrong time, they'll let you free.

[QUOTE=Morris Vander;37236391]So? Just because you're a suspect doesn't mean you'll be wrongfully jailed. As soon as they look at the evidence and see you had nothing to do with the crime and was just there at the wrong time, they'll let you free.[/QUOTE] I'd rather not be put in jail for two days thanks.

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37236416]I'd rather not be put in jail for two days thanks.[/QUOTE] 2 days is nothing, don't be a baby.

[QUOTE=Morris Vander;37236437]2 days is nothing, don't be a baby.[/QUOTE] Any time you're wrongfully imprisoned is too much, don't be a fucking idiot.

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37236455]Any time you're wrongfully imprisoned is too much, don't be a fucking idiot.[/QUOTE] There's a difference between being wrongfully imprisoned (I.e, going to prison and staying there because they thought you comitted a crime) and being in a jail (not a prison) for 2 days or less while they look over the evidence before releasing you.

[QUOTE=Morris Vander;37236500]There's a difference between being wrongfully imprisoned (I.e, going to prison and staying there because they thought you comitted a crime) and being in a jail (not a prison) for 2 days or less while they look over the evidence before releasing you.[/QUOTE] Yeah, the difference being you get paid for the days you're wrongfully imprisoned, and you just lose two days if you're in jail.

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37236525]Yeah, the difference being you get paid for the days you're wrongfully imprisoned, and you just lose two days if you're in jail.[/QUOTE] ok? I don't get your point.

[QUOTE=Morris Vander;37236540]ok? I don't get your point.[/QUOTE] You're calling me a baby while you're the one just taking it up the ass while you're jailed for something you didn't do.

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37236416]I'd rather not be put in jail for two days thanks.[/QUOTE] Oh hey there unwarranted paranoia! I somehow doubt they would put you in jail, let alone treat you as a suspect, just because this scanner happened to tag your car nearby the scene of a crime. Seeing as all it is doing is collecting your plate number, and reporting which camera took it, it wouldn't be enough evidence to keep you in. Remember, they'd have hundreds of people tagged at that camera, and who's to say the owner of the car is the one who was driving? They can't use this for anything other than checking your plate, the location data is pretty meaningless unless tracking a stolen vehicle (and even then, the car will be long gone before they act on it). GG conspiracy nuts, but you lost this round.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;37236632]Oh hey there unwarranted paranoia! I somehow doubt they would put you in jail, let alone treat you as a suspect, just because this scanner happened to tag your car nearby the scene of a crime. Seeing as all it is doing is collecting your plate number, and reporting which camera took it, it wouldn't be enough evidence to keep you in. Remember, they'd have hundreds of people tagged at that camera, and who's to say the owner of the car is the one who was driving? They can't use this for anything other than checking your plate, the location data is pretty meaningless unless tracking a stolen vehicle (and even then, the car will be long gone before they act on it). GG conspiracy nuts, but you lost this round.[/QUOTE] I was responding to him saying at most you'll be put in jail for two days while they review the evidence. I personally am not afraid it'll actually happen, I simply said that I think that's the reason many people are afraid of such a system. Just because I don't believe it'll happen doesn't mean I should like being jailed for two days for no reason.

What do you guys care you never leave the house anyways.

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37236738]I was responding to him saying at most you'll be put in jail for two days while they review the evidence. I personally am not afraid it'll actually happen, I simply said that I think that's the reason many people are afraid of such a system. Just because I don't believe it'll happen doesn't mean I should like being jailed for two days for no reason.[/QUOTE] But, it will never happen. That's what we are getting at here. The UK is the most surveillanced (I need a word for this) country in the world. London more so than anywhere. I am pretty sure that if police forces worked off this ass backwards idea you are arguing about, over half the country would have been put into a cell by now. They cannot use this kind of thing as evidence unless they already have you on suspicion of something, or it's blatantly obvious you were involved. Passers by, random scans, they won't count for shit.

[QUOTE=halofreak472;37236086]You know what, fuck you too license plate readers [img]http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2010-03-21/1268995974-dropdatabase.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Hello fine for obscuring plates so that they can't be read!

[QUOTE=hexpunK;37236806]But, it will never happen. That's what we are getting at here. The UK is the most surveillanced (I need a word for this) country in the world. London more so than anywhere. I am pretty sure that if police forces worked off this ass backwards idea you are arguing about, over half the country would have been put into a cell by now. They cannot use this kind of thing as evidence unless they already have you on suspicion of something, or it's blatantly obvious you were involved. Passers by, random scans, they won't count for shit.[/QUOTE] I know, but I can also see where they're coming from, with the things we sometimes hear about cops.

[QUOTE=HkSniper;37233092]The thing is... License plates are not your property. They are property of the state. Secondly.... These scanners do nothing remote to what these people claim. There is no difference in a scanner than me looking at your plate and typing it into the MDT. The only thing the scanner does is make this process a lot faster and looks for specifics to alert the officer (Stolen vehicle, person with warrant, expired DL, etc.)[/QUOTE] That's kind of the point though, and so many people are ignoring it. The point is unless there's some reason for someone to think I've committed a crime, the cops have no business running my plates or adding me to their tracking database or otherwise tracking where I go. Sadly, many people now consider it normal to assume everyone is a criminal as the default status.

I did not expect this i read the title as "is your cat being tracked"...

[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;37236996]The point is unless there's some reason for someone to think I've committed a crime, the cops have no business running my plates or adding me to their tracking database or otherwise tracking where I go.[/QUOTE] Or there is, just in case your car happens to be stolen, or maybe, I dunno, to ensure you aren't driving the car illegally (I have no idea how it works in the US, we have a mandatory tax and required insurance in the UK, driving without either is not a great idea). Just because they are scanning your plates doesn't mean they are actually using that data. The system is automated, it will have a criteria to compare a plate against to alert the police if a reportedly stolen car goes through, etc. It only holds your plate details, and the camera that captured it. Nothing incriminating, nothing "privacy" invading (lmao privacy in public). Level headed people 2 - Conspiracy "POLICE STAYTE!!!" people 0

it's so simple how to avoid this. All cameras can see IR light. You can get IR diodes for cheap at any electronics store; place them all around your plate, and test with a camera. Bam, cameras will only see a giant white ball of light, obscuring your license plate.

[QUOTE=Amplar;37237117]it's so simple how to avoid this. All cameras can see IR light. You can get IR diodes for cheap at any electronics store; place them all around your plate, and test with a camera. Bam, cameras will only see a giant white ball of light, obscuring your license plate.[/QUOTE] Bam, you get pulled over when a officer scans your plate with a handheld device.

Believe me. The police (In Nashville I know for a fact, but every big city, really) is too busy trying to serve the over 100,000 warrants that have backed up, and answering calls of houses that have security alarms that have been set off by the owners (And Nashville now cites people who do that they do it so much, but that hasn't even come close to slowing that down) than to worry about where your car is, unless you've used it in a crime It might even be nice if you get wrongly accused of a crime, and this scanner puts you and your vehicle in another place when that crime was taking place, instead of relying on which way a dumbfuck jury is going to decide

[QUOTE=hexpunK;37237140]Bam, you get pulled over when a officer scans your plate with a handheld device.[/QUOTE] what handheld device. Police run your plates by sight and they don't have access to the car's cameras.

[QUOTE=Amplar;37237300]what handheld device. Police run your plates by sight and they don't have access to the car's cameras.[/QUOTE] Some police do have license plate cameras. Most just do it by sight. If your that paranoid about being ran through the system you need help

[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;37236996]That's kind of the point though, and so many people are ignoring it. The point is unless there's some reason for someone to think I've committed a crime, the cops have no business running my plates or adding me to their tracking database or otherwise tracking where I go. Sadly, many people now consider it normal to assume everyone is a criminal as the default status.[/QUOTE] What's so wrong with this? Lol. They have every right to. You'd actually be surprised how many times police catch criminals because of a cop who was driving along and just happened to punch in a plate number. If you haven't done anything illegal then there's no need to get upset about it. For one thing, the "massive tracking database" everyone is talking about is being over-complicated in so many levels. Assuming these scanners pick up your location, all it would have the potential to do is store which camera took the shot. Now if you had the same daily drive, sure it would appear on the records as how you get to work and what your schedule is probably like. But also, I can do that just by standing on the sidewalk with a pen and a notebook. Also, NO ONE is going to look at those records lol. There's going to be thousands and thousands of them. Unless you commit a crime or become a suspect in something pretty serious, I can guarantee you that that your data will just be stored away and never even considered to be existent. Also, it's not that "everyone is considered a criminal." When you think about it, this is actually intended to separate the 10% criminal from the 90% lawful. Safety first, yo.

I don't see how this is any different than just having cops look at your license plate. They would just be really good at it now.

My car has illegally not had front plates on for a good three years now, I wonder how these scanners would react to that.

If they have it in my area they're not tracking my ride. If they were they'da already sent us a fixit for expired tags months ago, it was due in April :v:[QUOTE=David29;37233690]Here in the UK, the police use license plate scanners regularly and there are no issues at all with privacy or 'being tracked'. People really need to stop being so bloody paranoid.[/QUOTE] Excuse us for not trusting the corrupt as fuck US Government. They've proven time and again they can't be trusted with $1.25 to get a soda from the vending machine, let alone technology that could be abused to track people. As for my thoughts on this system...surprised they didn't already have this database up. It's been a known fact cops punch random plates in all the time. Hell I'm sure mine have been run while I'm sitting at stop lights with a cop behind me. It's not like they're pulling random people over and demanding to rifle through their gloveboxes or anything, it's just automating something cops have been doing since they got computers in their patrol cars. [QUOTE=RenegadeCop;37233736]Guys it's not like they have hidden cameras set up in your house to watch you masturbate calm down. "Ohh no my privacy!" Who gives a fuck unless your hiding something?[/QUOTE] I may not have anything to hide but I demand my right to hide it anyway. I don't want any random yahoo rummaging through my private life. It's why I don't use sites like Facebook, and why I'd decline a search of my car in a traffic stop.[QUOTE=Ardosos;37238155]My car has illegally not had front plates on for a good three years now, I wonder how these scanners would react to that.[/QUOTE] Haha. I've never understood the logic behind front plates. My tags have been expired since April. Nobody has given a damn.