Israeli John's Hopkins Geneticist Says DNA Results Prove Jewish People Are Not a Single Ethnic Group - Polidicks

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40585485] only in the sense that displacement of anyone should be considered immoral. it isn't "we once owned the land", it's "these people lived here and now you are moving them away". ancestral homeland or w/e means nothing. the living take priority.[/QUOTE] yet you want to break apart land that israel owns and has fought to defend, to give it to people who "once owned the land" pardon me if I'm wrong but I believe israel has tried many times to settle this peacefully and has only received mortar fire in response

[QUOTE=cccritical;40588825]yet you want to break apart land that israel owns and has fought to defend, to give it to people who "once owned the land" pardon me if I'm wrong but I believe israel has tried many times to settle this peacefully and has only received mortar fire in response[/QUOTE] israel is not defending "its land", it is displacing palestinians through systematic settlement of the west bank.

[QUOTE=supersnail11;40588122]Uhh...[/QUOTE] That's a joke numb-nuts.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40588864]israel is not defending "its land", it is displacing palestinians through systematic settlement of the west bank.[/QUOTE] something something six day war

[QUOTE=cccritical;40589220]something something six day war[/QUOTE] i didn't know the 6 day war was still going on

I'm sorry but this is pure BS. It's true that Ashkenazi Jews mixed with Europeans (mostly Italian and Greek.) This was done under DNA testing BTW including autosomal DNA. But no way in hell Khazar and if they did at all it would be pretty insignificant. Khazars looked almost like a Mongol people. They had a pretty Asian appearance. I haven't seen a single Jew who looks like this or even slightly mixed with them. I have seen Jews who look Italian and Greek and some mixed with German though. Jews also apparently share some ancestry with Kurds, Turks, and Armenians. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews#Autosomal_DNA[/url] And also see here: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB2SIYRItvs[/url] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzuZzlTiqdw[/url] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udO65M_KIOA[/url] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1FWNAftIEc[/url]

[QUOTE=person11;40587508]It was a mistake since it was borne out of a "none of us want to deal with these Jewish refugees, so lets give them a country, fuck whoever lives there, we won't ask them"[/QUOTE] Er, they were long on their way to building their own state before the refugees of the Holocaust came about.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;40582362]if [B][I]THE JEWS[/I][/B] get their own country then why cant us educated atheists get our own country checkmate[/QUOTE] Because we're too cool to have our own countries. The Man can't contain us! [editline]9th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=mr kjerr;40580465]yeah, you mean like every other major country ever formed around a single ideal, usually religion?[/QUOTE] Or the dozens of countries that exist today with borders drawn based on what European leaders wanted decades to a century ago? Israel being one of them?

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40589231]i didn't know the 6 day war was still going on[/QUOTE] hence me using the past tense [QUOTE=cccritical;40588825][i]has[/i] fought to defend[/QUOTE] you could try to make it a little less blatantly obvious that you disregard every scrap that opposes your view even just pretend not to plug your ears when a valid counterargument is brought up or something

you're not even countering my argument you are just talking about something totally unrelated to what i said. how is settlement of the west bank defensive?

didn't israel start the 6 day war?

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;40590282]didn't israel start the 6 day war?[/QUOTE] it was a pre-emptive strike launched by israel, yea, but it seems like those countries were preparing to attack anyways. pre-emptive strikes are certainly a lot more grey from a moral standpoint than normal defensive actions though.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;40590282]didn't israel start the 6 day war?[/QUOTE] Egypt closed the Strait of Tiran to Israel. Closing waterways to a country is an act of war, by anyone, it's just that Israel managed to start the shooting first before Egypt and the rest had a chance.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40588864]israel is not defending "its land", it is displacing palestinians through systematic settlement of the west bank.[/QUOTE] israel's land is whatever land israel controls

Blacks are obviously the real Jews [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaTQQ2ZteZc[/media]